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IndigoDirae
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posted August 22, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clean slate. New direction. Possible bold new horizons. Question is, can it work? Does it promise heaven? Hell? Neither? Both?

Based on the composite alone, what are your thoughts?

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posted August 22, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron opposite Dejanira does not bode well, at least how I think. The Nymphe conjunct Nessus is also interesting to me. The Sun conjunct Eros definitely points to it being more sexual in nature, but it's also 10th house, so I'd say the sexy parts are seen more of as a job or occupation, maybe. The Destinn could possibly be trine that, but it's a 3 degree orb, which is really quite wide for asteroids. If it were considered though, it would bring some of that energy into the third house. Still though, that's not a relationship house. Mercury is in the 11th house, and is trine the Mars, which is again the third house. The Moon is opposite Priapus, that is also interesting, but it's the 4th and 10th houses, which aren't romantic. Honestly, I'm not seeing a whole lot of romantic stuff in here. The only aspect that hits on a romantic house is the one with Chiron and Dejanira, and that's not a good aspect. Question, is this J and H's composite? It would make sense for them.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your thinking it's them may have coloured your thinking a little.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Uranus is very difficult. It will never be a stable relationship.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe just unconventional?

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posted August 22, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not with Chiron T squaring.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Clean slate. New direction. Possible bold new horizons. Question is, can it work? Does it promise heaven? Hell? Neither? Both?

Based on the composite alone, what are your thoughts?


New composite? Thought you were married?

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posted August 22, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may better illustrate some things. Call it a 'derived' composite consisting of components central to the above.

Man. Look at cDEJA ....

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posted August 22, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
This may better illustrate some things. Call it a 'derived' composite consisting of components central to the above.

Man. Look at cDEJA ....


Never heard of Nessa and all of those other things. Never put them in a composite either

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posted August 22, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
New composite? Thought you were married?


I am, actually. This is a new composite, as far as I'm concerned. My husband and I are considering a new direction.

I hesitate to say what it really is, as that tends to colour one's view and introduce bias. Rather, I'm trying to take it as a whole new relationship -- and thus, new composite -- to explore what could be the potential benefits and conflicts. Just like any other.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Not with Chiron T squaring.

Yeah, it's cCHIRON's position which concerns me. 22° Aries in 7H. Hoboy. It's a loose square to the MOON, though, and, yes, exact to BML. I read you there.

Are you counting the 17° Cancer cPRIAPUS as a legitimate square to cCHIRON? It seems way wide.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I am, actually. This is a new composite, as far as I'm concerned. My husband and I are considering a new direction.

I hesitate to say what it really is, as that tends to colour one's view and introduce bias. Rather, I'm trying to take it as a whole new relationship -- and thus, new composite -- to explore what could be the potential benefits and conflicts. Just like any other.


This is why I love this website. So much stuff to learn! Did you ever read the last 2 comments I posted on my last thread??

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posted August 22, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dodger,

NESSUS is grew for exploring power dynamics and the ways in which sexuality can become controversial in nature. Some say it's abusive, but only when paired with DEJANIRA, the 'victimisation' point.

We look to DEJANIRA to understand our concept of victimhood, and where we may be vulnerable to being taken advantage of, or harmed.

When NESSUS is aspecting DEJANIRA, however, he obsessively pursues her in an almost insane attempt to possess her.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
This is why I love this website. So much stuff to learn! Did you ever read the last 2 comments I posted on my last thread??

Me, too!

And I'm just about to.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yeah, it's cCHIRON's position which concerns me. 22° Aries in 7H. Hoboy. It's a loose square to the MOON, though, and, yes, exact to BML. I read you there.

Are you counting the 17° Cancer cPRIAPUS as a legitimate square to cCHIRON? It seems way wide.



yeah i don't like it. Im not including Priapus I'm not too sure about it.

what it means is the woman in this relationship is going to end up broken hearted because of the instability of the relationship.

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posted August 22, 2014 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Loffra, if you're still about --

Notice how the first cJUNO is 15° Libra? Then, see how the second cASC is 15° Libra?

The second also has PSYCHE and DEJA: two classically feminine archetypes; one desired by her soulmate, the other obsessively pursued by an outcast who would stop at nothing to have her.

Wonder if I should be concerned that DEJA's 19° Libra?

Nah. Let's not get crazy now.

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posted August 22, 2014 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Me, too!

And I'm just about to.


So should I include all of those asteroids when putting up charts?

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posted August 22, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Not with Chiron T squaring.

My husband and I have been together for 7 years and we have chiron opposite uranus both squaring venus. In fact both of my committed relationships in my life involve a chiron opposite uranus tsquare. Chiron binds and forms strong bonds and when separation takes place neither fully forgets the other I feel; you will be changed forever and know in your heart that this person had a huge impact in your life and touched your heart deeply. I dont think is good to hold on to this person if there is not a relationship any longer bc part of the healing lesson is letting go but the love will always be there for that person. In cases of separation if chiron was a theme in the composite you must learn to love without holding on.

Chiron is deep and transforms; it has similarities with pluto. I feel chiron brings tough lessons and open wounds to teach lessons but a chiron relationship can also bring tough lessons followed by healing if you stick together long enough.

But I get why you are worried naturally; chiron opposite uranus both squaring the moon spells out instability but some people need this to stay in a relationship or they get bored so some people could last a long time with a tsquare like that; such as my husband and I.

Change is painful but it keeps you feeling alive and forces growth and keeps things interesting.

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posted August 22, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


This is what me and indigo were just talking about in my bother thread

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posted August 22, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by loffra180:
Chiron opposite Dejanira does not bode well, at least how I think. The Nymphe conjunct Nessus is also interesting to me. The Sun conjunct Eros definitely points to it being more sexual in nature, but it's also 10th house, so I'd say the sexy parts are seen more of as a job or occupation, maybe. The Destinn could possibly be trine that, but it's a 3 degree orb, which is really quite wide for asteroids. If it were considered though, it would bring some of that energy into the third house. Still though, that's not a relationship house. Mercury is in the 11th house, and is trine the Mars, which is again the third house. The Moon is opposite Priapus, that is also interesting, but it's the 4th and 10th houses, which aren't romantic. Honestly, I'm not seeing a whole lot of romantic stuff in here. The only aspect that hits on a romantic house is the one with Chiron and Dejanira, and that's not a good aspect. Question, is this J and H's composite? It would make sense for them.

Moon in the 4th is at home so that is very personal, its important as well bc is an angle. The 4th is ruled by a water sign so its important for long term relationships. The angles and the water houses are important in relationships; a combo of both and you have something lasting.

I have a 8th stellium (also a 7th house asteroid stellium) and a tsquare involving the angles IC, DC and MC with my husband.

Ceri has observed that the IC and DC rulers or angles are usually touched in synastry and in composite I assume as well for relationships that take off and become committed.

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posted August 22, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:

This is what me and indigo were just talking about in my bother thread


Which thread??

Can you please unquote me; I edited some parts after you replied.

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posted August 22, 2014 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My husband and I have been together for 7 years and we have chiron opposite uranus both squaring venus. In fact both of my committed relationships in my life involve a chiron opposite uranus tsquare. Chiron binds and forms strong bonds and when separation takes place neither fully forgets the other I feel; you will be changed forever and know in your heart that this person had a huge impact in your life and touched your heart deeply. I dont think is good to hold on to this person if there is not a relationship any longer bc part of the healing lesson is letting go but the love will always be there for that person. In cases of separation if chiron was a theme in the composite you must learn to love without holding on.

Chiron is deep and transforms; it has similarities with pluto. I feel chiron brings tough lessons and open wounds to teach lessons but a chiron relationship can also bring tough lessons followed by healing if you stick together long enough.

But I get why you are worried naturally; chiron opposite uranus both squaring the moon spells out instability but some people need this to stay in a relationship or they get bored so some people could last a long time with a tsquare like that; such as my husband and I.

Change is painful but it keeps you feeling alive and forces growth and keeps things interesting.

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To IndigoDirae:

This been said I dont feel I love the composite but based on that Pluto conjunct AC and the tsquare involving chiron opposite uranus squaring moon this tells me that it will shake your core and his core and lead to some personal growth and transformation.

The vertex conjunct the DC with NN in the 5th shows this as a fated love affair IMO and it will disrupt your I am thinking somewhat open marriage with your husband a bit evidenced by lilith conjunct moon in the 4th and juno conjunct uranus in the first.

It will probably not last a long time but it will be meaningful and change you.

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posted August 22, 2014 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:

Which thread??

Can you please unquote me; I edited some parts after you replied.


I don't know how to unquote. And it's the one with Pluto conjunct Juno and Lilith in the 7th house

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posted August 22, 2014 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I don't know how to unquote. And it's the one with Pluto conjunct Juno and Lilith in the 7th house

You click edit and remove the information that is quoted.

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posted August 22, 2014 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My inner 8 Ball says "Outlook Not So Good." However, I assume this is a natal composite. How's the progressed composite?

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