posted August 24, 2014 10:08 PM            

I'm sure they work together... But I am curious if one is stronger or if one trumps the other??

posted August 24, 2014 11:12 PM            

Venus is important in that it shows the type of relationship values we have, and the style of relationship we like to have, as well as some of the traits we are attracted to. We love to be around that type of energy, but our attraction to the qualities of Venus seems to be less sign-specific then our 7th house. A person with a Leo Dsc is more likely to marry a partner with personal planets in Leo then a person with a Leo Venus... Same if the Dsc ruler is in Leo, or the Dsc ruler is in the 5th house, or the Sun is in the 7th house. In all cases, Leo connected to the 7th house is more likely to marry a person with the sign Leo in their chart then a Leo Venus. That's what I mean in the term 'sign-specific attractions'.

For Venus in Leo the partner may have some Leo-ish qualities but they don't necessarily need to have planets in Leo in their natal chart. This may change if Venus rules the 5th, 7th, or 8th house (a HUGE topic just by itself). A planet or two in Leo in the partner's could certainly enhance attraction but it's not essential.

So I guess my summery is that we are attracted to our 7th house in a sign-specific kind of way. While we are attracted to our Venus position in a 'general qualities' kind of way. We love the style and vibe of our Venus position but we don't need that specific sign to show up in our partner's chart. Unless we have Libra or Taurus ruling the Dsc.

If a person has Venus in Gemini, we could easily fulfill this by having strong Mercury synastry with them, or putting planets in their 3rd house, or aspecting their 3rd house ruler. They crave good communication in a relationship, and like a lively playful vibe. Gemini traits inspire affection for a Gemini Venus, but they don’t crave the sign specifically the way a Gemini Dsc would…

A Gemini Dsc person falls for the character of this sign more strongly... They will be attracted to those with a strong natal Mercury, the sign Gemini prominent, or the 3rd house prominent. We’d look at the sign of Mercury too. If Mercury is in Taurus, then the person will be attracted to those with the sign Taurus stong, Venus strong in the natal (espically if in an Earth sign), and the 2nd house strong in the natal, as well as to those with prominent Mercury/3rd house/Gemini. Furthermore, if the Moon is in the 7th house, the person would also be attracted to the sign Cancer, a strong Moon, or a strong 4th house, in a partner. Perhaps they’d marry a Gemini with Moon in Taurus and a bunch of personal planet in Cancer.

If they have Venus in Pisces, they’d like a dreamy romantic vibe to the relationship, where there’s a strong sympathetic/emotional connection. The partner does not need to be a Pisces for this to happen, although a Pisces Asc or something in the partner’s chart would feel ‘nice’. The Piscean vibe could just as easily come from strong Neptune synastry, or putting planets in each other’s 12th house. That sort of thing.

posted August 25, 2014 09:54 AM            

Thank you for your detailed feed back! I appreciate it. I learned a lot here! haha

I was just thinking over it because recently I had someone tell me that synastry between me and a guy I'm seeing wouldn't last bc I didn't fulfill his "venus type". Said guy has Venus in Virgo. I am Cancer sun, mercury and venus. However said guy has Cancer descendant & has described his ideal woman to me as "motherly and domestic" (go figure). So my stellium falls in his 7th.

so I know that venus is important, but I thought moon sign in a male and his Desc would be more important to look at when determining what they need to be emotionally fulfilled.

posted August 25, 2014 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
There is a difference between what we want and look for in a partner (for him, the Cancer vibe) vs. the way in which we express and hope to receive love and affection (as well as our aesthetics - for him, Virgo perfection). His Virgo VENUS might get frustrated or feel smothered after a while, or upset at your less practical approach to love.

This is why, for both VENUS and MARS, in analyzing synastric potential, it's important to check modality and elemental affinity.

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posted August 25, 2014 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Thank you! That sums it up nicely

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He might have his VENUS between Virgo 25°00'-27°29', or Virgo 7°30'-9°59', if considering the duad/dwad theory. These placements are fond of Cancer.

posted August 25, 2014 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
He might have his VENUS between Virgo 25°00'-27°29', or Virgo 7°30'-9°59', if considering the duad/dwad theory. These placements are fond of Cancer.

Otherwise, it's probably just because of his DC in Cancer + your luminaries in his 7H. That's a strong placement to begin with.

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posted August 25, 2014 04:03 PM            

Look at it this way:
To determine what a man finds attractive look at his Dsc, Moon and Venus AND the aspects the latter two make!

Let's see what your guy has:
- DSC in Cancer = you are a Cancer Sun and that already is enough. You also have a Cancer Venus, this is great!

- Moon in Capricorn = you have Moon trine Saturn

- Venus conjunct Mars, and let me tell you here that in my experience Venus and Moon qualities are interchangeable, thus = your Moon in Aries
- Venus in Virgo = your Venus in the sixth house

You're good concerning this guy, don't worry. And I didn't even go into detail.
And always, always, always examine the natal chart first!

posted August 25, 2014 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
@moonstruck87

Look at it this way:
To determine what a man finds attractive look at his Dsc, Moon and Venus AND the aspects the latter two make!

Let's see what your guy has:
- DSC in Cancer = you are a Cancer Sun and that already is enough. You also have a Cancer Venus, this is great!

- Moon in Capricorn = you have Moon trine Saturn

- Venus conjunct Mars, and let me tell you here that in my experience Venus and Moon qualities are interchangeable, thus = your Moon in Aries
- Venus in Virgo = your Venus in the sixth house

You're good concerning this guy, don't worry. And I didn't even go into detail.
And always, always, always examine the natal chart first!

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posted August 25, 2014 09:14 PM            

My Uranus is in Scorp....I am attracted to Pluto types a lot, or at least a lot of depth n intensity.

My Mars is in Gemini....my Merc is 0 degree conjunct my Sun and I've always needed that Sun/Merc contact and scorp Uranus contacts in relationships...until recently.

My libra Venus is conjunct Pluto on my AC, opposed DC, I've always shyed away from my Pluto/Venus in relationships and I've always felt let down and unmatched by the other persons lack of intensity compared to mine.
I think my love needs are dominated by the prominent placement of my Venus, but I was afraid of it's intensity and tried to be more light hearted. I felt the intensity was me being over dramatic, so I tried to contain or squash it.
I've been working on accepting myself for who I really am, and decided to stop trying to fit in others molds and just allow myself to be me, if ppl don't fit with me it's because we are not meant to be together and I need to move on. I guess making that change allowed a new space in my heart for someone more like me to enter my life and be accepted by me.

This new guy squares my Sun with his Sun and trines my Uranus.....usually I needed a conjunction to my Sun and conjunct or opposed my Uranus(my Mars only aspect is a trine to my Uranus)
I didn't want these guys to touch my Pluto/Venus because it brought out a side of me that I thought was bad, a side I wanted to squash because if it's intensity.

This new guy conjuncts my Venus with Pluto exact...his Venus exact squares both. I'm in heaven! He does t judge my intensity because he's just as intense! Instead we both feel supported and understood, both of us have outgrown our need to force our ego so the fact that our suns square is a mute issue at this point. I could care less about getting my way...my way is whichever way brings the most peace and ease to everyone around me.

So to answer your question....I think all are important at different times in your life, with growth and maturity you will change and start needing different things.
I think the condition of your DC, Venus and 5th house ruler is very important to indicate which one is used more.
The one that has the easiest aspects will probably be used when your younger and as you grow and mature you start to see things different and want more depth. As you come understand yourself on a deeper level and work through some of the more challenging aspects you open yourself up to new needs, ones that satisfy you on a deeper level....this is the growth pattern that makes all these important at one time or another.

posted August 26, 2014 02:08 AM            

We're all attracted to our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, but people are different in which parts of their 5th, 7th, and 8th houses they're drawn too. And this can differ with each house also. Some are more drawn to their Dsc ruler, some are drawn more to the Dsc sign, and some are more drawn to a sign ruled by a planet in their 7th house. It's like this for both the 5th and the 8th houses too. So predicting someone's type can be a little unpredictable in this sense.

In my case, I've got a Gemini Dsc, but Jupiter sits in the 7th house, and Mercury ruling my Dsc is in the Sign Sagittarius. I love Sagittarians. More so then Gems on the whole. Yes, I can still be attracted to Gemini energy, but Sag just has a stronger pull on me. With Dsc ruler in Sagittarius and Jupiter in the 7th house, this shouldn't be much of a surprise.

My Venus is also in Sag, increasing the strength of my 7th house Sag connection.

My 5th house cusp is Aries, ruled by Mars in Leo. Theoretically, I could go for either. For some reason I'm more pulled towards Aries then Leo. In my case I like the sign on the cusp of the 5th more so then the ruler. Other people are the other way around. Like Gabby, who likes Scorpionic energy more then Aqua energy (her 5th house cusp sign).

The attraction to Aries might be boosted by the fact that Venus (relationship values) and my Sun (a male significator) fall into the 1st house in my chart.

I must also point out that I can be drawn to Leo energy, it's just that sign-wise the Aries pull is stronger. I certainly like Leo 'types' though... Someone not afraid to stand out, who doesn't mind attention, and is very outgoing. I also have a thing for longer then average hair on a guy, like shoulder length, or just above... like a Lions mane.