posted August 25, 2014 04:45 AM            

I think that my partner may be in love with me -- or at least contending with it; beginning to experience feelings of an infatuatory nature, even if we've known each other for four years.

As for me? ... I'm terrified. I feel as though he's been a part of my life since long before we ever met; a decade, really. (And, yes, I have sound reasons for saying that.)

I can tell that the dynamics of our relationship are changing. Frankly, they need to. IQ's best advice for me was that we're natural partners, and are rather destined for a life-long relationship -- of some kind, at least. I do feel that. I'm not even sure I ever believed this was possible. But I can't deny I feel that, too. I really do.

It's a bit overwhelming to me. Who's a pro at taking stock of progressed synastry? I'm seeing quite a lot, but, I'm NOT objective -- at least not right now.

Both are progressed to today, 24 August 2014.

Ideally, I'd love some insight into what it's shaping up into now, at this time. What chapter really is ahead for us. How it's inter-playing, and what I should be expecting.

His 8H is just suddenly full -- and intercepted -- with my 1H and 2H most prominent. On top of that, his natal Aries stellium is now overlaying into my p7H, and my natal Leo and Virgo stellia overlay his p7H/8H. Very intriguing to me.

posted August 25, 2014 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
First thing I notice is your NN/Chiron/Moon aspecting his Mercury/Jupiter square Mars.

Does he have a sharp tongue and do you two argue a lot?

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Practically never, miraculously. We're very careful with one other's feelings and naturally polite in each another's presence. He 'elevates' me in many ways. I find myself striving to be better: whether it's acquire knowledge I don't have, be a more compassionate person, or just take the high road.

posted August 25, 2014 11:55 AM            

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I think that my partner may be in love with me -- or at least contending with it; beginning to experience feelings of an infatuatory nature, even if we've known each other for four years.

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That's an interesting case.

posted August 25, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
That's an interesting case.

Would it be possible to share the birth data of your husband so I can take a better look in all dimensions? (I already have yours since that progressed analyse of you & tyrian).

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posted August 25, 2014 01:28 PM            

Yes, my husband and my partner are two different people. My husband is the Geminian; my partner, the Cancerian. I've referred to the latter as my costar, my friend, my lover, my Guardian Soulmate, and so on. 'Partner' has become an act of sheer convenience. Since iQ recently stated how strong we are as a team, 'partner' has been sticking.

posted August 25, 2014 04:39 PM            

At this current right-now moment;

Your pVenus - 19'08 Libra
Your nSun - 19'09 Libra!!!

(appl. 1 min. ^)

I'm flabbergasted. Well guys, how many times did we see a natal progressed Sun/Venus conj. at the start of a (new) relationship (in whatever form)??

Well, it must be a culmination of *something* u know...

And... (well, I was afraid there wasn't any connection with partner buttt.... well ofcourse.. it HAD to be!)

Partner;

Natal Mars - 22'03 Libra!

Well Indigo.. this feeling between the both of you is getting stronger and stronger and stronger the next couple of years, u bet! ;D

Your pVenus enhancing an already existing Sun/Mars conjunction in synastry.. hmmmm.. we can all guess what that could mean

But the orb of that ^ is still a little little bit wide, not? (although in some cases it might be already clearly felt)

Well, let's look further... I suspect something more..

Aha..

Indi's pMars - 24'50 Sag.
His nVenus - 23'32 Leo.

That's ^ a real nice but already separating V/M trine, so one might wonder... since this aspect already reached its climax 2 years ago, why did that specific love-spark remain so "not-tangible" back then?

Well guys, even for that ^ there's a progressed explanation ;

Namely, there was an upcoming Sun/Venus square which might have kept them apart on that level, well in fact, is STILL keeping them apart somehow for a little while only... ;

Right-now;

Indi's pSun - 23 Scorp
His nVenus - 23'32 Leo

(an applying square ^ which will reach its peak in about 6 months)

After that ^ it's time to let the spark flow.. the square would always point to an obstacle somewhere somehow.. although the attraction caused by it, might be very verrry strong on whatever level. which it clearly IS currently.

There's another very sweet & nice aspect coming closer and closer now.. it's his RETRO pVenus at 12'26 Virgo on its way to your nVenus at 8'33 Virgo.. this one will reach the assumed tangible orb of 2* appl. around october 2018. And it will clearly pass your Venus (not going "direct" before it has the chance to pass, is what I mean). Well in fact, his pVenus will only stop its retro-move somewhwere in 2047 at about 27 LEO.

OK, this for NOW. I only looked at GEO here and only at the pretty NEAR-future... promising!

posted August 25, 2014 06:58 PM            

The first chart has pSun in Scorpio w/ pMoon in Aquarius - pFirst Quarter. For sure this is a milestone period in their life. This is a square aspect so a challenge is denoted. The 1st-Q is all about overcoming challenges. Often it means you will have to work to achieve what you want, because it won't be handed to you.

The second chart has pSun in Leo w/ pMoon in Capricorn. This person is twelve months or so away from a pFull Moon. Another milestone period in one's life...but that's in the future.

Today their pMoon is in Capricorn. Capricorn/Janus has two faces -

1) They've worked long and hard and life is about to reward them in tangible ways; new car/house/promotion/career-success/executive/supervisor/#1/responsibility.

2) Life turns ugly and you're forced to prove you can do more with less. Things you don't really need will be snatched away. You're made to start at the bottom. Life's pressures may prove too much to bare.

Speculation Alert!!!

I will speculate that if the 2nd person is in scenario #1 they may be ripe for relationship/marriage. Capricorn means business, so I'd advise to stay way unless you have serious intent.

If the 2nd person is in scenario #2, wait. Pounce in 12 months time. They're learning a valuable lesson now, and may need to sort himself out.

posted August 25, 2014 07:57 PM            

Both of you are activating emotions and unconscious fears in each other, but his capricorn moon will try to avoid the emotions and going to have hesitation to acknowledging his feelings to some extent...or maybe there's situations that block easy expression of the feelings.

posted August 25, 2014 10:30 PM            

Mir, Nine, Gabby ... all of this is incredible. Thank you -- more than you know. Wow. Today has just been the culmination of SUCH an intense month.

As this is the relationship with so much outstanding karma, which has so greatly impacted both of us, it's been heavily on my mind.

I'd have to say as things are deepening, these echoes of the past almost feel like troublesome things -- haunting me. In order to quiet those unconscious voices, I've been seeking ultimate understanding: why, how, and what's happening now that's an echo of then. Moreover, how can I prevent it from happening again? So having some direction is HUGE. Thank you.

So let's take this piecemeal.

Mir,

Yes, I've wondered about my pVENUS-nSUN -- which is also involving my nPLUTO and nBML, as well as my pALMA -- and his nMARS being there feels very much to me like resolving a specific part of our outstanding karma.

The separating square has definitely been something. In 2010, we first attempted a relationship. It ended rather tragically, but to the best of our ability at that time. But now I realise that it was deeply karmic influenced -- as if we were playing roles that were 'destined' to conclude that way.

Here's what got me, though. Though it ended in November 2010, when he claimed we were in zugzwang, and, further, he was in a kind of moral checkmate -- he relented. I honestly don't know why I pushed as hard as I did; it just hurt SO much. I felt like he'd uncovered so many things in me that were just ... going to have to be buried and forgotten. I think that's why he was the only one I'd actually pleaded with not to end our relationship. I'd not done that since I was 19 -- because I'd promised myself I NEVER would again. And I hadn't. Not in a decade.

That following April, 2011, however, I was serious when I wrote him a heartfelt email explaining that I would never begrudge him the success I knew he was due -- but I couldn't continue a personal association of any kind -- not for awhile, at least. That wasn't acceptable for him, though. He wouldn't 'lose me entirely', and was willing to do what had to be done.

That's when the real changes ... started. I thought that was it, but JUST in time for my Twin to re-enter my life that October, he begun to fade into the background. My focus switched, and we fell back into a platonic relationship until October 2013. That's what he referred to as our getting back together. He also wasn't even going to attempt it UNLESS he was certain. And so far, he has been. He admitted -- THEN -- that he was feeling uncertain again, like he wasn't really sure he could do it -- that it was too opposite of his hidebound nature and highly conventional principles, (and, ohhh, is he a man of principle -- THAT's key). But this time, and from that point on, he decided he WANTED to be. That he knew it'd be difficult, but that he wanted to become the sort of person that could be with me.

... Wow.

THAT, I feel, and have deduced over time, was a central component of our entire conflict. The way it all ended so tragically, with us both incurring a negative shared karma desperately seeking balance.

The fact that we've both made such compromises to have what we do now -- is really remarkable. Somewhat ironic that it all truly took shape because of a dare -- the very thing I'm pretty sure prompted him to kill me then.

posted August 25, 2014 11:53 PM            

I think he's been through both. I feel that he's definitely getting really to finally make it, though. He's certainly suffered enough.

posted August 26, 2014 01:36 AM            

And I personally take two things from that.
When Mr Sag and me first met, he was having an exact conjunction of pr Sun to his n Venus, and I was having a first quarter Moon in the progressions, which is just now applying to a fullmoon (next spring).

posted August 26, 2014 01:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Great interpretations!

And I personally take two things from that.
When Mr Sag and me first met, he was having an exact conjunction of pr Sun to his n Venus, and I was having a first quarter Moon in the progressions, which is just now applying to a fullmoon (next spring).

I am going to watch this space.

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posted August 26, 2014 04:19 AM            

he actually came up to me during the show again last saturday.

BTW your partner is that the one we have been talking about when we started to talk? The other one beside your Twin?

posted August 26, 2014 12:29 PM            

to overlook THIS * m i r a c l e * ;

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WOW Indigo...!
At this current right-now moment;

Your pVenus - 19'08 Libra
Your nSun - 19'09 Libra!!!

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I just now see HIS current natal progressed Sun/Venus conjunction;

posted August 26, 2014 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
HOW could I have been so BLIND......

to overlook THIS * m i r a c l e * ;

I just now see HIS current natal progressed Sun/Venus conjunction;

His pSun - 23'37 LEO
His nVenus - 23'32 LEO!!!

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Right! Hey, don't feel bad -- I forgot it, too. How? I'm wondering that myself. Too much stuff!