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Topic: When picking dates to marry, what's more important the actual chart or the transits?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 25, 2014 07:31 PM
Are you looking for a beautiful chart on that day or is it more of how the transits hit your natal charts or is the composite chart what is more important? 11-11-15 has a great chart, Sun/Moon/Merc conjunct sextile Jupiter and Pluto Mars/NN/Venus conjunct sextile Saturn... But I can't get any of the love planets in the 5th or 7th without making the moon fall on a bad star....does stuff like that even matter? Is the timing of marriage to get the planets in the love houses(unless 10th/11th works) even important in this kind of chart? IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted August 25, 2014 10:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Are you looking for a beautiful chart on that day or is it more of how the transits hit your natal charts or is the composite chart what is more important? 11-11-15 has a great chart, Sun/Moon/Merc conjunct sextile Jupiter and Pluto Mars/NN/Venus conjunct sextile Saturn... But I can't get any of the love planets in the 5th or 7th without making the moon fall on a bad star....does stuff like that even matter? Is the timing of marriage to get the planets in the love houses(unless 10th/11th works) even important in this kind of chart?
This seems a bit overboard, like you're giving your own power away. That's a beautiful time of year... just pick a day. If you're synastry is good, then how you weather the transits etc will apply every day... including this one. And you'll be fine, regardless. ------------------ It's my Pisces Moon. ☆☾ IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2014 11:39 PM
Is this for you, Gabby?IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 26, 2014 12:27 AM
Edited ------------------ ~ Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour ~ IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 26, 2014 12:42 AM
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 26, 2014 01:25 AM
I'm kinda blown away with how influential 'love charts' are, frankly. I wonder how much impact my wedding chart actually has had -- or for how long. IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 26, 2014 03:41 AM
~ Wooba Gooba ------------------ ~ Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour ~IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2032 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 26, 2014 08:36 AM
Astrologer April Eliot Kent wrote a book about wedding charts. She said she try's to get a good day for the wedding first and foremost (transit wise), and then if possible she matches this to the charts of the couple. Approaching aspects are very significant in a event chart. Sun at 14 Scorpio approaching Saturn at 28 Leo, is considered 'bad' because the square is symbolically in the future. A square of Sun at 14 Scorpio square Saturn at 10 Leo is not considered as bad because the aspect is symbolically in the past. It's over. Approaching squares to Saturn involving the Sun, Moon, and Venus are meant to be particularly bad. Approaching soft aspects and conjunctions between the Sun and Moon, and Venus and Mars are said to be good. The approaching conjunction between the Sun and Moon is questionable though, because it involves the waning Moon... Another thing she mentioned was to marry during the waxing Moon (where the Moon is increasing in size). This is said to symbolize something that increases in strength with time. Whereas an event started during a waning Moon (where the Moon is getting smaller) is said to indicate something that decreases. The Moon decreases in size until it becomes the New Moon where the Sun and Moon are exactly conjunct. Then the Moon increases in size until it becomes the full Moon where the Sun and Moon are exactly opposite. Each phase takes about half a month. It's also good to avoid Mercury retro, and Venus retro. There was more that this astrologer mentioned but I can't remember all of it. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 09:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Is this for you, Gabby?
Ya....potentially? He wants me to check out possible dates to see if we can find a good one. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by GemBird82: Hi!I'm a "big fan" of composite charts (for long term relationships). While synastry charts quite often tell you the way 2 people 'see each other' and how both natures react. As you know, what you are 'preparing' is an "event chart". How much influence does an event chart has in a long-term relationship? ~ I don't know. MY opinion (just that) is the fact that event charts are not natal(s). If you are looking for something natal-like for marriage, composite would do it just fine. But again, it's a percentage, I may be wrong. People with more experience in even charts may help you with that. But if you are very interested in them, why don't you make a comparison between composite and 'event chart'? I mean... why not? It might tell you something interesting... (or not). Hope this is useful. ~ Good Luck
Ok I'll do that. Right now I'm looking for sun/moon conjunction and mars/Venus conjunctions... Found 11-11-15 has a scorp sun/moon conjunction at 19, but can't get the conjunction to fall in a love house without the moons degree falling on an unfortunate star. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 09:48 AM
Here is 1st date....10-12-15 This one has a golden Yod, at least thats what I think that is between Saturn/Venus/Uranus. Here is 2nd date....11-11-15 My NN and his Uranus/Vertex are scorp@20-22 My Moon/his NN and IC virgo@18, his Venus cap@18, I like that Uranus isn't opposed the Sun/Moon in this one...but still it's a Yod with Uranus as focal point, not sure how that plays out? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 09:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Astrologer April Eliot Kent wrote a book about wedding charts. She said she try's to get a good day for the wedding first and foremost (transit wise), and then if possible she matches this to the charts of the couple. Approaching aspects are very significant in a event chart. Sun at 14 Scorpio approaching Saturn at 28 Leo, is considered 'bad' because the square is symbolically in the future. A square of Sun at 14 Scorpio square Saturn at 10 Leo is not considered as bad because the aspect is symbolically in the past. It's over. Approaching squares to Saturn involving the Sun, Moon, and Venus are meant to be particularly bad. Approaching soft aspects and conjunctions between the Sun and Moon, and Venus and Mars are said to be good. The approaching conjunction between the Sun and Moon is questionable though, because it involves the waning Moon... Another thing she mentioned was to marry during the waxing Moon (where the Moon is increasing in size). This is said to symbolize something that increases in strength with time. Whereas an event started during a waning Moon (where the Moon is getting smaller) is said to indicate something that decreases. The Moon decreases in size until it becomes the New Moon where the Sun and Moon are exactly conjunct. Then the Moon increases in size until it becomes the full Moon where the Sun and Moon are exactly opposite. Each phase takes about half a month. It's also good to avoid Mercury retro, and Venus retro. There was more that this astrologer mentioned but I can't remember all of it.
Thank you, in the 1st chart Saturn is coming up on a square to his Sun and conjunct my Sun/Merc...in the 2nd it's passed or separating from both our Suns.
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GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 26, 2014 04:13 PM
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GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 886 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 26, 2014 05:08 PM
Edited ~ ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~ IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2032 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 26, 2014 05:59 PM
Gabby,Oh yeah, there's one more thing I forgot to mention that I learned from April Eliot Kent. She said the last aspect that the Moon makes before leaving to the next sign (before it goes void-of-course), shows the final 'outcome' of an event. So if the last aspect is a square from Mars to Moon, the final outcome could be something very aggressive (in theory). If the last aspect that the Moon makes is a trine from Venus or Jupiter, this would show a nice 'outcome' from the marriage event. Keep the last aspect before the Moon goes void-of-course in mind. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 06:05 PM
Thank you Gem....you made me less scared of scorp@22!! So I can get most of the Sun/Moon/Merc stellium in the 7th or on the cusp at least and get Venus in 5th, although we will be signing the marriage certificate the very last minute before the court closes. Whew!! I love that we can have a taurus AC!! My NN, his Vertex falls on our DC! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 26, 2014 08:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Gabby,Oh yeah, there's one more thing I forgot to mention that I learned from April Eliot Kent. She said the last aspect that the Moon makes before leaving to the next sign (before it goes void-of-course), shows the final 'outcome' of an event. So if the last aspect is a square from Mars to Moon, the final outcome could be something very aggressive (in theory). If the last aspect that the Moon makes is a trine from Venus or Jupiter, this would show a nice 'outcome' from the marriage event. Keep the last aspect before the Moon goes void-of-course in mind.
Thank you again, the last aspect the Moon would make would be a sextile to the 5th house Mars....
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Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2032 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 27, 2014 04:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Thank you again, the last aspect the Moon would make would be a sextile to the 5th house Mars....
Sounds pretty good. Is the date during a waning Moon or waxing Moon? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 27, 2014 09:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Sounds pretty good. Is the date during a waning Moon or waxing Moon?
I think it's a waxing moon? The moon has already made an exact conjunction to the sun and passed it by approx 2.5 degrees, the moon is separating. Sun scorp@19.19 Moon scorp@21.41 My natal NN is scorp@21.44 His natal Vertex scorp@20.11 His natal Uranus scorp@21.00 IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 2032 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 27, 2014 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I think it's a waxing moon? The moon has already made an exact conjunction to the sun and passed it by approx 2.5 degrees, the moon is separating. Sun scorp@19.19 Moon scorp@21.41 My natal NN is scorp@21.44 His natal Vertex scorp@20.11 His natal Uranus scorp@21.00
Yeah, after the New Moon until the Full Moon is the when the Moon is waxing. So the Moon has just started waxing. IP: Logged |