posted August 27, 2014 08:26 PM            

Mine started 11 August 2014 -- so, very recently. It'll no longer be exact on the 30th. Just three more days ....

I know it's certainly causing me a bit of grief. I've suddenly felt like, 'I CAN'T HANDLE THIS!'. That I'm just not cut out for all of this transformative business: not strong enough, not capable enough, not able to handle the pressure, complications, the constant effing judgement -- even when people 'aren't judging' you -- they're judging you. Most of the time. At least, it feels like it.

My nCHIRON is 9H (goody-goody) and natally opposite my 3H LILITH. 0º. Which is on my EROS/MOON MP.

It's like I feel as if I just can't deal with it. Suddenly, I'm just wanting to throw up my hands and run away. From everyone and everything.

Did I mention it's square my 6H/12H NODES? YEAH. It is. In fact, the t-SATURN/MARS is [b]exactly[/i] on the MP today. Opposite my nCHIRON.

Eff. My. Life.

I've resorted to convincing myself that everything is BS, and none of it is true -- no karma, no astrological methods depicting or illuminating anything -- nothing except what I can hold in my hands, or feel beneath my feet. Cold, hard, stagnating reality.

I guess at least that way I can go, 'forget this transformation business; it's nonsense. I don't have to change. I don't have to do anything. I can absolutely do nothing.' Even if I FEEL it all bearing down upon me. HARD.

posted August 28, 2014 02:53 PM            

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Is it true, what the Magi say, that you shouldn't begin a relationship under it? And what qualifies as 'beginning' a relationship besides?
Mine started 11 August 2014 -- so, very recently. It'll no longer be exact on the 30th. Just three more days ....

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This is how they see it;

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Important Love Natalizations:

•First email dates
•First phone call dates
•First meeting date
•First lovemaking date
• Engagement date
•Wedding date

Each natalization creates an energy imprint that leads (positively OR negatively) to the next natalization. Positive natalizations for each step help to guarantee the next step is reached. Negative natalizations at any step may derail the whole relationship. The last relationship milestone reached on the above list represents the Ruling Chart for the relationship, EXCEPT that the first meeting date is never completely discarded until the couple marries.

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I know it's certainly causing me a bit of grief. I've suddenly felt like, 'I CAN'T HANDLE THIS!'. That I'm just not cut out for all of this transformative business: not strong enough, not capable enough, not able to handle the pressure, complications, the constant effing judgement -- even when people 'aren't judging' you -- they're judging you. Most of the time. At least, it feels like it.

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Well, just wait with that first love making date, if not already happened

But that progressed Sun/Venus square (exact in about 6 months) between the both of you is screaming as loud here...

posted August 28, 2014 05:23 PM            

"nothing except what I can hold in my hands, or feel beneath my feet. Cold, hard, stagnating reality.

I guess at least that way I can go, 'forget this transformation business; it's nonsense. I don't have to change. I don't have to do anything. I can absolutely do nothing"

^ sounds SO much like Taurus.

I feel stubborn against the change too because there's so much to consider. And then I have the weird fact that I'm hearing different sides of things from different people, some of them trying to manipulate, some trying to help that makes it all the more bothersome, if I actually listen to their words. So right now I'm thinking, "not gonna listen, gonna take my time and plod through this all verrry slowly."

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Hey don't you have some sort of sun/moon conjunction right now? I have my progressed new moon still in orb.

I think that means even more emphasis on what is right for us, in order to be whole.
Aside from the new beginning thing.

posted December 23, 2014 10:34 PM            

Anyway, I began a relationship when transiting Chiron opposed natal Saturn and it didn't work out. I also had two Cinderella transits, but according to Magi, that doesn't negate Chiron-Saturn.

posted December 24, 2014 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
If I recall correctly, beginning of relationship means first physical contact. But, I don't know if that can mean a hug as well as sex.

Anyway, I began a relationship when transiting Chiron opposed natal Saturn and it didn't work out. I also had two Cinderella transits, but according to Magi, that doesn't negate Chiron-Saturn.

I'd be interested to hear from other people and what their experiences have been before drawing any conclusions.

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That's interesting, peony.

If it's, say, a first hug, that would've been early 2010. First kiss was ... June? So all dates in 2010. But then it ended that November, and resumed in April 2011. Tapered off that October. Then, again, resumed -- for the last time -- November 2013.

Going into January 2015, and going strong.