posted August 31, 2014 12:32 PM            

Ofcourse it depends on who you ask but I have never liked saturn.

I have an unaspected saturn in natal. No planets in 10th house. I have neptune in capricorn in the 1st house, but that's it.

I'm also pretty uranian.
Moon sextile uranus 5.16°
Venus oppose uranus 5.52°
Asc conjunct uranus 0.24°
Chiron opposition uranus 0.10°
Midheaven square uranus 2.41°
Moon in the 11th
Pluto in the 11th

I hate the feeling of "sticking around because of duty/responsibility". No. I want to talk to you, or remain in contact with you because I want to to. Not because of duty or responsibility.

Also, everytime i have saturn in synastry, it doesn't matter what planet I am. Even when I'm saturn the other person is the one restricting me. Lol, you'd think since I'm saturn I would restrict them, but no it's always the other way around. I guess I don't know how to restrict people because of my unaspected saturn? I simply let people be who they are and accept that.

I cannot stand and will not be restricted. I have saturn square mars in synastry with someone at work right now. She tries to tell me what is acceptable behavior and not. She finds my behavior too eratic and tries to control me. Not gonna work. In my other synastries with saturn similar themes of trying to restrict me played out as well. Once I see that, I move on and drop them.

posted August 31, 2014 12:55 PM            

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posted August 31, 2014 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Saturn figures strongly in all long-term synastries and/or composites, Uranians or not. Perhaps with your peregrine Saturn it's more difficult for you to integrate Saturnian energy. Usually the need for Saturn comes in the second part of life for non/Saturnians.

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That's the thing. I believe saturn can be seen as long term if you like that energy or are used to it. I personally don't believe it is necessary for a relationship to be long term. Like how some people hate pluto/uranus in synastry. I love uranus and pluto for instance.

With saturn, the easy aspects have that "i'm just sticking around for the sake of sticking around" feeling to me. The hard ones are extremely annoying/restrictive and I end up ignoring the person.

If anything, saturn can actually put a lot of people in bad situations. Sticking around out of duty/responsibility when things should have ended ages ago.

Maybe it's also because I don't see things from a "years" perspective. I'm more of a "here and now". What I feel tomorrow or next week is unknown. But this is how I feel about our relationship right now. Saturn has this, "no don't leave just yet, you have a responsibility. Make it work and stay longer" feeling that just irks me.

I see a lot of people saying "we've been together for x years". But in reality, they were only present during the first 2yrs of the relationship. They were on relationship auto pilot for the remaining 5yrs that followed before someone woke up from autopilot and decided to end it.

i see people sticking around just for the sake of sticking around. I'm going, "why didnt you end it yrs ago?". I check synastry, and yep, you guessd it....saturn.

So is it really "longterm" if someone ended it in their minds yrs ago, and just hasn't brought it to physical reality yet? Or is sticking around longer, just so they can say "we've been around for 15yrs," what is considered to be a "successful" relationship?

I don't like to consider relations as a time based thing. The term "long term relationship" to me is so vague, cause like I said earlier, one person (or both) could have gone into relationship auto pilot years ago and are simply just going through the motions. The guy auto pilot proposes, the woman auto pilot says yes, they autopilot move in and have children, one day one of them wakes up and is like "what the heck happened?"

I'm not saying this is how saturn always plays out, but rather it can hinder you from doing what you want to do cause there is a tendency to "wait" and "stall" and "prolong".

I personally measure relationships of all kind in terms of quality, no quantity. How long I've known you does not equate to a "good" (vague I know) relationship. "long term" yes. So I guess it all depends on what you're looking for.

I don't want someone to stick around out of duty. Lol if I could read your mind and saw that I'd end it. I want you to do so because you want to. Be that 5 days, or 4 months. It's fine, quality of time is greater than quantity of time imo.

posted August 31, 2014 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
My Saturn was square someone's sun once, exact. It took me 5 years to finally stop longing for that guy! Saturn is not always friendly, rarely is it friendly actually....but some times it's worse than others. Sometimes it's more like a rope around your neck with instinctual desire forcing you to want a person and no logic or reason will break the desire!
Saturn is kind of a cruel planet at times.....but when the feelings are mutual and love, passion and desire are not killing either of you but instead blessing you, bow down Saturn because it will be what makes sure that love will always be in your life.

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Hmm, I've had heavy saturn synastry before but I've never felt this. I've felt this with heavy pluto synastry though. then again i have sun pluto, mercury pluto, wide moon pluto, and mars in the 8th. So maybe that energy is easily felt cause it's in my natal, but with saturn I end up thinking "Why am I still talking to this person". It's as if saturn is saying "dont leave just yet", and I'm going "why not?".

posted August 31, 2014 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SoujiroSeta:
Hmm, I've had heavy saturn synastry before but I've never felt this. I've felt this with heavy pluto synastry though. then again i have sun pluto, mercury pluto, wide moon pluto, and mars in the 8th. So maybe that energy is easily felt cause it's in my natal, but with saturn I end up thinking "Why am I still talking to this person". It's as if saturn is saying "dont leave just yet", and I'm going "why not?".

At the same time I can see if the dots connect, like you said, saturn can be good. Do you have saturn in your chart Gabby?

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Leo Saturn in 10th, trine saggy Sun/Merc/Neptune stellium grand trine when add BM Lilith, it's sextile my Pluto/AC/trine DC and square Uranus

posted September 01, 2014 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
As a Saturnian/uranian heavy, I think the Saturnian lesson isn't to stick around out of duties. It is to hang in there with someone through thick and thin, because life isn't all rosy

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Agree…. saturn isn't about duty only, it's about working on things that matter. This is also a "quality" that uranians probably don't get.
Sometimes you have to work through hard stuff and times together with a person you love, and it might seem "heavy" but where would you be without those people in your life?
They got your back after all….

Uranian people just have a tendency to leave people and relationship before it gets "boring", but I see this more as a fear of commitment instead of just "rebel against the norms"

posted September 01, 2014 05:44 AM            

Also, I am a quite independent Person (moon in aries, Uranus trine venus & asc).