posted September 01, 2014 03:52 PM            

Help?!

Birth times are accurate, btw.

Thanks!

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posted September 01, 2014 06:55 PM            

Question: do we only look at composite once a romantic relationship is formed or do we look at it whenever?

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posted September 01, 2014 07:15 PM            

I don't even know how I affect him other than a basic physical attraction (as he has asked me out in the past).

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posted September 01, 2014 08:46 PM            

Also, humour me.

posted September 01, 2014 10:14 PM            

His Priapus is in Sagittarius 7º44':
- trining my Mars by 36'
- opposing my Jupiter by 1º38'
- semisextiling my Neptune by 19'

My Priapus is in Pisces 21º15':
- biquintile his Sun by 29'
- trine his Venus by 1º50'
- sextile his BML by 1º52'
- sextile his MC by 2º29'

His BML is in Taurus 23º07':
- sextiling my Priapus by 1º52'
- making a sesquiquadrate to my Neptune by 42'

posted September 02, 2014 08:20 PM            

Very interesting! I would've never thought about looking at the 12th house for a reason.

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posted September 03, 2014 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
^^ Wow. That could totally be it! I mean, the connection doesn't feel physical, as I have no need to touch him or be with him - I am happy and satisfied just hearing from him, be it by email or phone. And I have to say that during the times we were around each other, it felt like we were able to anticipate what the other was going to say (at least I could) and communicate feelings through our eyes. I guess this is what I most miss right now. It was the first time I had this with someone, this feeling of complete acceptance and understanding, and I haven't found it again with anyone else ever since.

Very interesting! I would've never thought about looking at the 12th house for a reason.

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That all sounds very lovely! And very sweetly intense. I wouldn't doubt if the 12th house has something to do with it. To me at least, it definitely sounds a bit like what you're describing. I too feel this way with/about someone, although him and I are not closely connected or in a relationship. But we communicate through our eyes so to speak, the few times we have met in person. It feels very other-worldly and unique to me, and not something I have really felt with another person. I think it is because of our heavy synastry contacts that include the nodes and stuff, and not much 12th house action (although there is 8th). But I can definitely relate to what you feel!

posted September 03, 2014 12:56 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
How do you mean "is it hitting him"? I see the composite Sun-Venus-Pluto conjunction hitting his Vertex and Jupiter... Is this what you meant?

His Priapus is in Sagittarius 7º44':
- trining my Mars by 36'
- opposing my Jupiter by 1º38'
- semisextiling my Neptune by 19'

My Priapus is in Pisces 21º15':
- biquintile his Sun by 29'
- trine his Venus by 1º50'
- sextile his BML by 1º52'
- sextile his MC by 2º29'

His BML is in Taurus 23º07':
- sextiling my Priapus by 1º52'
- making a sesquiquadrate to my Neptune by 42'

My BML is in Virgo 14º29':
- semisextile his Sun by 17'
- quincunx his Neptune by 34'
- square his Chiron by 1º13'

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Yeah, not really anything in that department.

posted September 03, 2014 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
Well, looking at the synastry chart, I notice that there is an emphasis on your 12th house. He puts his Sun, Moon, Uranus, Neptune, Lilith, and Juno all in your 12th. That is a lot! I think that would definitely add to the confusion and lack of clarity you feel surrounding the relationship, and also possibly part of the reason that the connection feels so strong to you. I believe the 12th house in synastry, since it is a water house and because of what it stands for in general, can give off an ethereal, strong, almost fated connection-like feel. Especially to the house person, which in this case would be you. I'm sure the feeling might even go both ways, but usually it is said that the house person typically feels the matter(s) of the house being affected a bit more than the planet person. I see that your Moon happens to fall in his 12th as well.

I've known someone who put their Sun in my 12th house before (and was conjunct my Moon and Mars), and he is someone I'm utterly convinced that I will never, ever forget because he affected me so strongly. The relationship was definitely confusing at times.

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Very good point. Honestly, 'who feels what' is relative to the chart. The way I see it, the point is directing its energy in this manner or fashion. That's an unconscious but active process. In the case of one's MOON in my 8H, there's always been a powerful drive for intensity and deep bonding -- including sexual expression.

My MOON, on the other hand, falls into his 12H. I've been a steady but passive proponent of his psychological development. I never pushed, but when he came to me, saying he really wanted to work to obtain healing, I was easily motivated to be a supportive listener but honest analyst, too. I've been the first to call him out on his denial, or suggest that he needs to delve more deeply into something and unearth the real motivation. Go beneath the surface.

Oh, how blissfully uncomplicated it was before we began a sexual relationship!

Not as easy to launch into my usual therapist mode with him anymore. Suddenly, it all felt unclear; were my emotions getting lost in a fog? Was he misreading what I was saying and doing? Was I misinterpreting his feelings and actions?

It's rather strange; his VENUS is in my 12H, while my MARS falls into his. We each throw a stellium into each other's.

The trick, I've learnt, is paying close attention to that point's operation by aspect. Since my MOON is square his VENUS (1°) we have two 12H overlay points whose wires are getting crossed.

We give each other benefit of the doubt; remember to opt for warmth and generosity when things feel uncertain. Came a time where I had to come clean about the intensifying nature of our relationship. I went about it in a very roundabout and emotionally detached way. He came right out and asked if what I needed was X because of Y. There was that definite sense of 'oh, for pity's sake -- out with it!' His sunny LEO VENUS tired of my SCORPIO MOON's dodging and deflecting.

It's exactly what was needed, though. He ended up taking the first real action step, showing his own devotion and affection (VENUS) which in turn easily elicited emotional reciprocation from my MOON. What was a troubling lack of clarity became a test of faith that only strengthened our bond.

Fortunately, he has a VENUS trine MOON natally, 1°, so, if need be, we can always pull from the overlay of his MOON in my 8H -- opposite my SUN and PLUTO.

Brutal emotional honesty. When the fecal matter starts to make contact with the spinning blades, we just reroute everything to our 5H/8H overlay. Our MOONs are synastrically quincunx (2°), but his is conjunct my PRIAPUS. Part of why my MOON gets so dodgy in his 12H .... It's self-preservation. But, thank God, he knows how to short-circuit the whole bit.

posted September 03, 2014 07:10 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yeah, not really anything in that department.

Hm. So, hitting his VERTEX. What's the orb on that? Less than 2°?

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Oh Lord. Okay, his Vertex is in Scorpio 4º07', while composite Sun is in Scorpio 1º30', so not less than 2º. BUT composite Venus and Pluto are hitting his Vertex less than 2º.

posted September 03, 2014 07:12 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Honesty, affection, benefit of the doubt, and genuine love and caring. Only way to deal with the 12H.

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posted September 03, 2014 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
That all sounds very lovely! And very sweetly intense. I wouldn't doubt if the 12th house has something to do with it. To me at least, it definitely sounds a bit like what you're describing. I too feel this way with/about someone, although him and I are not closely connected or in a relationship. But we communicate through our eyes so to speak, the few times we have met in person. It feels very other-worldly and unique to me, and not something I have really felt with another person. I think it is because of our heavy synastry contacts that include the nodes and stuff, and not much 12th house action (although there is 8th). But I can definitely relate to what you feel!

Glad I could help if at all!

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We weren't in a relationship either, which is why I don't understand why he keeps popping up in my brain from time to time. He doesn't even live in my city anymore!