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starrynight
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posted September 02, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so I go to my sis' party and there is this guy. He seems to like me. I eventually reject him when he becomes too flirty, one of the reasons is that he's just not my type. You know the case, when the guy is pretty nice, you don't hate him or anything, but he grosses you out slightly on a purely physical level. Like, the idea of kissing him is eww even though he isn't ugly.

Nothing special happened, he got it, the night went on. And then suddenly we talked about astro signs and I found out not only he was one of my fav signs, his actual B-day put his Sun almost on my Mars.

I came back home and looked at his natal chart. Oh my. He's a triple Sag, like two guys I adored. He's got a Sag Mars, I'm usually all over that like a fly to honey. We have a boatload of Venus- and Moon- trines, too, including Venus - Venus and Venus - Jupiter. And yes not only his Sun is in conjunction to my Mars but his Mars is, too. In my 5th house no less.

Why did I have such a reaction to him? From our synastry, I must have been drooling all over him. Is it his Saturn in my 1st house?
His TOB is unknown, I put it at noon for the synastry chart drawing. But mine is precise, so my houses work.

So... his Sun and Mars respond to my 5th house, his Venus - to the co-ruler of my 7th and 8th. Our Venuses and Marses are compatible.

In short, what's wrong with this synastry? Why am I slightly physically repulsed by this guy instead of being hot for him? Why is he not really interesting to me instead of causing warmth and interest?

Why isn't the theory working?

I'm the Red person (Scorpio), he's the Blue one (Sagittarius).

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posted September 02, 2014 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason he repulses you maybe is because of his Saturn in your first house. It's clear.

Saturn is a turn off, even tho other placements look great, Saturn is the thing that ruins it.

It seems like in the synastry everything is great, there is a attraction but it's just his Saturn in your first house contradicting the other synastry aspects.

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posted September 02, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the 1st house Saturn is the worst, huh? Because I had a boyfriend whose Saturn dropped into my 8th house, and it wasn't bad at all, he was just a jealous and controlling type with me despite not being such a type in general. Another guy's Saturn falls into my 3rd house and I'm super attracted anyway.

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posted September 02, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not in my experience. Just about every one of my contemporaries has their SATURN in my first. I'd say 80% of my boyfriends have.

To be honest, this requires deeper understanding. We need to look at the natal disposition of your 5R, 7R, 8R, and 11R.

When we have a 5H/8H overlay, and we're not at all ready for the level of intensity it engenders, it can come off as repulsion.

I'd check for progressed oppositions between your charts, too. Such as a pVENUS opposite nMARS.

But, no 1H SATURN overlays won't do that. Sorry. This is likely regarding how your houses are being affected in the overlay.

It. Is. In. TENSE.

If you're not ready, you might bolt.

I'd look at if your nPERSEPHONE (399) is being hit by his PLUTO or HADES (h41), as well. That can be a very potent attraction that can feel too initially invasive.

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posted September 02, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im new at this,but i feel it is your NN sitting right on his Saturn that turned you off. Saturn person might stifle your impulses. With your NN in your first house- you would feel it even harder especially if you are at an age where you have started to grow towards your NN.

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posted September 02, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starrynight:
So the 1st house Saturn is the worst, huh? Because I had a boyfriend whose Saturn dropped into my 8th house, and it wasn't bad at all, he was just a jealous and controlling type with me despite not being such a type in general. Another guy's Saturn falls into my 3rd house and I'm super attracted anyway.

That's the key right there. With you. I'm having the same experience right now. His SATURN in my 8H inclines him (along with our other inter-aspects, as well as his MARS in my 2H) to act in a very dominant fashion with me.

I used to hate that from anyone. (BML-SUN natally.) But with him, it's amazing. Like a whole new world has opened up.

I'm REALLY glad to hear you've had the same 8H/SATURN experience.

Question. Do you feel the two of you have had any outstanding karma?

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posted September 02, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gah! You were born 25-26 October 1980. My 'intended' birthdate. Wild.

As Gemini mentioned, SAT-NNODE can be heavy -- very heavy. But you've got an exact SUN-NNODE and PLUTO-EROS, too.

There's some significant stuff here. I can see why you were intensely 'repulsed'. I have this with my husband. Seriously. He comes on TOO STRONG. He's gotten better, though. It's the opposite with my partner, or just the right amount. We're all learning.

Do you have schizoid tendencies? I wonder given our astro twinnish-ness. Your URA's further away than mine, by a slight bit, however. But who knows? All of my besties within 2 months are also schizoid. Seems a bit of us chose that period to incarnate.

I'm going to bet you have VALENTINE (447) in late-ish SAG. 25 or so. That explained my SAG attraction.

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posted September 02, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can't get his TOB???

i think there was a thread recently about repulsion/attraction . personally i see it come up when a personal planet is sitting square to an ASC, but since you don't know his tob.... :-(

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posted September 03, 2014 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is just "potential". If you don't find him attractive, you don't find him attractive. He's not your type or he's ugly (to you, grosses you out as you say), there's not much you can do about that. The "potential" can go either way, positive or negative.

If we were attracted to everyone we have good synastry with I think we'd be in trouble!

But Mars conj Mars can bring out feelings of anger as well as attraction.

Also, moon square Pluto doesn't alway bring out good feelings. You can just rub each other the wrong way.

What I will say though is... You just met him... Maybe you'll change your mind if you see him again and he's less OTT in his approach to you. Who knows.

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posted September 03, 2014 06:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starrynight:
So the 1st house Saturn is the worst, huh? Because I had a boyfriend whose Saturn dropped into my 8th house, and it wasn't bad at all, he was just a jealous and controlling type with me despite not being such a type in general. Another guy's Saturn falls into my 3rd house and I'm super attracted anyway.

The first house is the most important house in the chart.

Everyone's saturn has to of course fall in one of your houses.

But it's when it falls in your first house that that planet becomes the most visible thing about the other person. That planet thas more weight in synastry, which falls into the other person's 1st house.

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posted September 04, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote such a long-winded reply I'll have to break it in two parts.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
To be honest, this requires deeper understanding. We need to look at the natal disposition of your 5R, 7R, 8R, and 11R.

I can't analyze the overlay because only my houses are known, but I generally seem to like 5H-8H. I have this right now with another guy (his 8H ruler conj my 5H ruler at 0 degrees) and it seems awesome, very intense. But I generally love intensity.
I thrive on intensity.
I don't think I've ever been able to endure a comfortable, drama-free relationship for longer than a couple months. I think that's because Uranus rules both my 7H and 8H and my 5H has Scorpio on cusp. I get like, "Bored now!" and off I go.

But back to this guy, it wasn't that intense. It was more like, "nope, dude, do not want."

Saturn in 8H is interesting, though. I keep reading about it being a bother when it comes to sex, stifling sexual impulses or steering people towards superkinky sex
while making them unable to enjoy regular sex, but I never noticed that.
My own Saturn has loose conjunctions with both my Venus and Jupiter, though, and so when it falls into someone's 8H, usually so do they. It's in Libra and has no harsh natal aspects, so it's kind of solid but mild.

I don't think I've ever experienced 1H Saturn before, well, in an actual relationship. I had 1H Jupiter with not one but two guys and it was so cool. Like "wow I'm so lucky to have met you". Very cheerful.
A friend of mine, however, had DW 1H Saturn in her synastry with her ex-husband. They seemed to have a mutually controlling relationship that wasn't that way romantically. Kind of restrictive. He tried to get her off some of her habits. She hated his habits. He'd be like, stop drinking so much, when she only had two glasses of wine. And she'd be like, you are doing it all wrong, even though it's his job and not hers. But at the same time they both felt responsible for each other. A sense of strong responsibility for each other's well-being. Their marriage ended in a divorce after just a few years, though.

Lemme check nPERSEPHONE.
Okay done. Well his Pluto isn't far from it, but so is mine. It's a generation thing, we are close in age.

quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Question. Do you feel the two of you have had any outstanding karma?

With the guy whose Saturn was in my 8H - nope. But there is this guy who has my Saturn in his 8H house and yep. That good old fated feeling. And I do feel like wanting to rule him, and I'm being jealous as hell. He has my Saturn, Venus and Jupiter all in his 8H and I kind of think he feels it as very intense. Maybe even too intense. But hey he has Venus in Scorpio, he's supposed to like it that way. His natal Saturn is in his natal 8H, it conj my Venus.
We also have DW Mars square Saturn, which is both a bad sign and something found in a lot of marriages... we'll see!

Speaking about 5H - 8H overlays
my ruler of 5H Mars conj his ruler of 8H
yet my 5H natal Mars square his 8H natal Saturn

It's like a looming fight for dominance. Not so much in the BDSM way, but in the "hell of a temper" and "who died and made you king?" way. It's only the beginning of a relationship, but I sense it like a distant thunder.

All this above --- was about a different guy. The 8H Saturn one. Not the one from this topic.

And yes, you got my birthdate right. I erased the dates here because the 1H Saturn guy was pretty nice and I didn't want to put his personal info in public, especially in such a not-flattering way.

I wasn't intensely repulsed, though. It wasn't intense. Just a bit gross in an unexplainable way.

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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
With your NN in your first house- you would feel it even harder especially if you are at an age where you have started to grow towards your NN.

I feel like I always did try to follow my NN, probably because it is in the 1st house. My SN is more meh to me, but NN is always calling.

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