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Topic: my synastry chart with my (yet) houband,
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selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 06, 2014 10:41 AM
  
hello everyone, that's my synastry chart with my husband, we not together since 1.5 year, still no divorce, but probably it will end that way...
it's not the best synastry chart but had some potential, my 4th house stellum in his 7 house my moon saturn conjunction just on his desc, his sun in my 7th house, there's his moon trining my sun pluto and north node, his mars on my venus, his venus tirining my jupiter... I'm wondering what aspect is the worst?
what do you think? we still had contanct, but it turned out that he was lying to me all that time and he met someone and is living with her, but in the same time, strange relationship between us...
As I found out about that I broke the contact.
I wonder is there anything in our synastry indicating all that has happened..? Thanks for all your suggestions and comments
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted September 06, 2014 10:51 AM
Hello, Selene and welcome to Lindaland! 
How long have you been together before the separation?
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selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 06, 2014 10:52 AM
almost six years IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted September 06, 2014 11:04 AM
I'm sorry to hear about your separation, it's not a bad synastry, not at all, it has important marital connections such as Sun/Moon DW, Venus/Mars DW, marital overlays and other significant aspects. I notice, at first glance, he has a problematic Venus: Venus unaspected (peregrine) conjunct Pallas, perhaps a preference for strong, intelligent or dominant, unusual women and you bring only a feeble aspect to it. His Saturn looks a bit stranded too (unaspected). I also notice a Moon square Uranus and neither of you seems to be strong in Uranus, if I'm not mistaken, but this is just at first glance. I think you should also post the composite. I assume the TOBs are correct?
EDIT: Actually, it looks like there's a Moon square Uranus DW: what is the orb between your Uranus and his Moon?
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selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 06, 2014 11:15 AM
composite
 data is correct
I'm sorry too. Life is hard sometimes, I'm just so suprised with his behaviour after we split up, I never thought he was capable of doing that, lieing for so long about that other woman... yes, my Uranus isn't strong, I think that in my chart Jupiter is the strongest, I don't have to good chart..
I thought that desc in capricorn will give me good marriage, I was after 30 when getting married so technically it should be ok... EDIT: my uranus is 10 and his moon 17 so it's very wide EDIT2: he has very problematic 7th house with many planets there, nn and 3 signs, and libra is intercepted...
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted September 08, 2014 06:39 AM
I'm surprised with the composite that you were together at all It suggests a relationship that may not get off the ground. Was it an affectionate relationship?------------------
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selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 08, 2014 07:14 AM
yes very, it was like a love from a first sight, he proposed to me after a month
we were very mach in love, we couldn't take our hands of each other.
I thought it was very deep and I never felt like this befoure, he told me the same, IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted September 08, 2014 07:17 AM
Could you please include asteroids: Valentine, Amor, Vesta, Lust, Cupido, Pallas, Juno, Eros, Psyche, Alma, Pholus, Karma in both charts? besides what you already have there------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 08, 2014 07:40 AM
here's synastry chart
 and composite
interesting what you wrote about the relationship from the composite chart..
but studing my solarn returns I noticed that not all things corespond with my charts, when I got mariied I had venus conjunction saturn and south node in 12 house, in the begining of the house not near the asc, and also evry important love year was when I had virgo asc in solar return, IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted September 08, 2014 05:40 PM
It's an impressive composite, with an interesting repetition of certain degrees, and a rather contradictory nature, involving Saturn and Uranus/Mars. Aries in the 12th, intercepted, with nothing in it, and with Mars in 4th and Pluto in 6th and Uranus in the 7th and those squares make this composite, despite some nice alignments, to look rather volatile. But I'll have to think about it more.Some houses in a composite (like the 2nd, 4th and 6th, then 7th and 10th) are like the areas of stability and tranquility for the couple. ------------------
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athenegoddess
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posted September 08, 2014 06:19 PM
looks like the woman was a little too crazy for the man in this relationship. composite moon conjunct uranus square mars.IP: Logged |
selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 02:36 AM
too crazy I never thought of myself that way but maybe you're right and it was like that in his eyes for me personally he was too introvert, not talking about problems issues, but that's probably his sun and moon in 12 house.
I have lots of air in my chart and I love to communicate, in relationship the most. that's essential for me, and it was missing. it was strange, at first it really looked kind of perfect. I was sure we will be with eachother till we die. and that nothing will ever break us.
after we broke up, I thought that we need that time apart to learn and one day we get back together.
So when I found out last month that he is living with someone since October last year, and they together since march 2013, and we split up in February it was just... you know.
I just couldn't believe that he lied to me for such a long time. he called me one twice a week, he called, not me. and this year it was even more often. He was talking about how lonely he is on his own, he started to flirt with me, was very very nice, we become kind of friend I thought.
then he asked me to go with him on a short trip, we went to the mountains for 2 days, and there he told me about her.
first I was so suprised that I didn't say anything, I think it was shock.
after we get back he called me everyday, we met often.
he told me that he wasn't happy that this new relationship is bad, and he feels very lonly.
then one day he even told me that he is worried that if I'm going to be so nice to him, than in near future he will have a big problem, like I had first when he started talking about divorce last year. I didn;t wanted it, I wanted to make this marriage work. I don't take such things lightly, it means a lot to me. I was prepared to fight then, but he wasn't and I gave up after a while. And now he's saying that he will have the same peoblem - wanting me so much...
You know I thought that it's going to be fine, that we're going back together after all.
But it wasn't the case.
Once I heard him talking with her on the phone. It wasn't notjing special, no love talk. But hearing her voice, it just make my heart stop. I don't know what happened but I froze inside.
I broke everything with him. No calls, no meeting, no trips nothing.
I realized that I was his comfortee, sorry I don;t know that word in English.
when I thought that still being his wife, at list on paper, he made me the other one... it was just devastating.
still it's hard for me to accept that he was capable of doing it all.
I don't understand why he did it, but at least now I know the truth after such a long time. And I'm starting to let go
But it's hard when someone you loved that was the most important person in your life thinks only about himself and don't take you in consideration at all.
that's why I posted this charts here, tring to understand this all...
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next to neptune
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From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 09, 2014 03:34 AM
I feel so sorry for you selene  It's really heartbreaking to read I think you really did a lot for this marriage, and your heart must be very good and strong!
I hope you will find someone better someday! IP: Logged |
selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 04:18 AM
thanks next to neptune
it's not so bad. You now I wasn't perfect in this marriage, I see my mistakes and take full responsibility for it.
But just what happened afterwards... hard to comprehend for me.
But it's getting better.
Cutting off was the best what I could do in this situation. I'm very loyal and have problems with ending... maybe he had to do all this things that I finally stopped respecting him. and saw clearly what was going on.
I'm curies is those thing can be seen in synastry or composite.. the way somethings end, the value of someone to the other one.
there's definitely aspects that makes me think of him and stick to this marriage.
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 07:18 AM
Selene, I am so sorry But maybe this is his way of coping with a separation, some people use the method "one nail drives out another" ( I don't know if this is the correct equivalent in English)...perhaps "like cures like"?? For English natives, what is the expression?
It doesn't mean he loved you less.
Actually, why did you two separate?
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selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 07:40 AM
yes, I do this in a minute...You know I have doubts that he ever truly loved me. love means respect, friendship, wanting the best for the other.
I know that you're right that he started this thing to quickly forget about me, I just don;t understand why he didn't tell me that, why he lied all that time, why he started flirting with me, took me for that trip and said those things.. if really wanted us to be friends than ... I don't understand that. there wasn't any friendship from his part at all.
I'm not so angry because we split up, I'm angry because he lied and manipulated to have it all - me and her.
I'm just different. I wouldn't ever do that to anybody I loved even if that love has ended. we split up because there was not enough communication. we didn't say what hurt us, and drifted apart. I started this. unfortunately.
I thought that it will be ok, I didn't know how, I was naive I know.
he worked a lot and I was alone lots of time, I felt very alone sometimes in this relationship.
I had my own issues, I understood them when we split. I might say I'm different person now. More fun, more optimistic, I used to was afraid of anything new, now I want to do those things. I think my moon Saturn conjunction has a lot to do with that.
Lately he told me that I'm very changed.
but it's too late for us.
Maybe I was supposed to meet him to learn all those things to do better in next relationship. IP: Logged |
selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 07:50 AM
my chart
 my ex
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mir
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posted September 09, 2014 11:22 AM
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I had my own issues, I understood them when we split. I might say I'm different person now. More fun, more optimistic, I used to was afraid of anything new, now I want to do those things. I think my moon Saturn conjunction has a lot to do with that.
Lately he told me that I'm very changed.
but it's too late for us.
 The progressed synastry here definitely confirms the 'last throes' of the connection. The pVenus/nVenus trine during the flirting and- trip period.. the current pVenus (his) opp. her Sun exact now.. it's not over "yet" so be prepared he probably will take some more jumbled and vain actions to lime things.. but that won't last for long; the last throes, no more or less. You nailed it and you know it. Great! IP: Logged |
selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 11:27 AM
I know he will try something, I don't know why but I know.
He doesn't have chance to hurt me anymore I don't let him near me.
I don't speak to him, don't even answer his calls. IP: Logged |
selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 03:43 PM
I was checking other asteroids, and it'slook like we were supposed to met, my destin is on his sun, and his destin on mine sun.
my union is on his asc, and his union close to my cupidIP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 09, 2014 05:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by selene77:
yes, I do this in a minute...You know I have doubts that he ever truly loved me. love means respect, friendship, wanting the best for the other.
I know that you're right that he started this thing to quickly forget about me, I just don;t understand why he didn't tell me that, why he lied all that time, why he started flirting with me, took me for that trip and said those things.. if really wanted us to be friends than ... I don't understand that. there wasn't any friendship from his part at all.
I'm not so angry because we split up, I'm angry because he lied and manipulated to have it all - me and her.
I'm just different. I wouldn't ever do that to anybody I loved even if that love has ended. we split up because there was not enough communication. we didn't say what hurt us, and drifted apart. I started this. unfortunately.
I thought that it will be ok, I didn't know how, I was naive I know.
he worked a lot and I was alone lots of time, I felt very alone sometimes in this relationship.
I had my own issues, I understood them when we split. I might say I'm different person now. More fun, more optimistic, I used to was afraid of anything new, now I want to do those things. I think my moon Saturn conjunction has a lot to do with that.
Lately he told me that I'm very changed.
but it's too late for us.
Maybe I was supposed to meet him to learn all those things to do better in next relationship.
You have just described your unaspected Mercury/Pluto, something Mercury/Pluto does not take: they need deep, intimate, long, profound, meaningful communication, no casual talk, no casual communication. And his Saturn is also a weak point of the synastry.
Unfortunately the composite suggests a relationship with a deadline. While squares from Saturn are not at all bad in a composite, a square from Saturn in the 5th to a 7th house stellium is not a good sign, coupled with Mars square Uranus and Moon conjunct Uranus and in the 7th. And the stellium is made of chart ruler, Venus, Sun and Neptune. Of course, I may be wrong, it's just one of the possible interpretations.
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selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 10, 2014 01:55 AM
thank you for your input
probably you're right.IP: Logged |
selene77
Knowflake Posts: 64
From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 11, 2014 12:11 PM
I read that it's important to check daconic charts and compare..
so I did
my draconic to his natal
drako natal
drako venus/ natal venus conjunction
drako jupiter/neptun conjunction
drako sun sextile sun
drako pluto sextile sun
drako mercury sextile sun
drako mars tirining jupiter
drako IC conj ASC
drako MC conj DC
drako nn conjuncts venus
drako moon semisextile venus
drako saturn semisextile venus
drako pluto opposite saturn
drako nn opposite saturn
drako sun opposite saturn
drako uran sextiles asc
drako uran tirining neptun
drako uran tirining desc
drako pluton tirining uran
drako venus opposite jupiter
drako venus sextiles chiron
drako mars sextiles venus
drako asc sextiles venus
drako neptun squaring venus
drako mars tirining chiron
I think it looks quite good
I must check his draconik to my natal too
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selene77
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From: poland
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 11, 2014 12:29 PM
and now his draconik to my nataldraco natal
draco asc/ natal asc conjust
draco des/ natal desc conj
draco venus conj mercury
draco venus square jupiter
draco mars opposing sun
draco mars oppo pluto
draco mars oppo nn
draco mars square asc
draco mars square desc
draco mars tirining neptun
draco pluto sextiles mars
draco pluto tirining venus
draco pluto square moon
draco pluto square saturn
draco moon conjunct venus
draco moon sextiles mars
draco moon sextiles asc
draco moon square neptun
draco sun conjunct moon
draco sun conjunct mercury
draco jupiter square jupiter
draco saturn conjunct saturn (accurate)
draco saturn square mars
draco uran semisextile mars
draco uran sextiles moon
draco uran sextiles saturn
draco neptun conjunct mars
draco neptun sextiles venus
draco neptun square pluton
draco neptun square nn
draco neptun square sun
draco nn squares jupiter
draco nn tirining mars
draco sun sextiles jupiter
dracomercury sextiles jupiter I think I got them all...
I don't know if to use asteriods? what do you think? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 11, 2014 02:24 PM
very strong contacts, but I think you should mention the Draco planetIP: Logged | |
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