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ueharaa
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posted September 09, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have noticed there is a trend nowadays of many people not just asking if they're soulmate or what type of karma / interaction they have but if they might be twinflame.

What is it with this twinflame thing? Why does it matter if there are astrological indicators of twinflame (and unless you're a very gifted astrologer and psychic you most likely will never be able to tell if it's just karma or twinflame) or not? Why isn't what you FEEL enough?

I am not a great contributor here. I mostly read the threads. And whenever the twinflame question comes up, it makes me cringe. Actually I don't mind the questions, I understand them since it's always what happens when you feel you are experiencing something strong with someone but what I don't like abou the twinflame concept is how it divides people into those who have experienced it and those who haven't.
Some have been chosen to access the twinflame stage like it's a graal and then there are the others. I feel like many discussions turn out to be "oups no you're twins you're "just" soulmate "... Besides I also find the concept quite dangerous since saying someone is your twin actually means that this is THE ONE person for you.

And the real question is WHY DOES IT MATTER?

When you come with a synastry chart, you are the one experiencing the relationship, you are the only one who can judge the impact of it on yourself.

I am just experessing my opinion and this isn't meant to attack anyone or anything. I personally don't believe in twinflame since I don't believe that there's an other half of my soul out there (wherever out there is)

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posted September 09, 2014 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I almost got used to it. Stay strong! lol

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hypatia238
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posted September 09, 2014 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know if TF exist or not but I am more inclined to belief we all have many soulmates and can experience intense love multiple times If we want and are open and ready for it.

I do get what you are saying though completely...I got sucked into it myself for a brief period too but like you I noticed the whole topic brings bad things to me and doesn't really contribute to my personal growth so I just kind of focus my energy on other threads now.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 09, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hah!

You beat me to it. I was JUST about to post something similar. Because, honestly, it's not been what everyone thinks it's supposed to be. But, hey. I'm young. Who knows? Maybe we will make some incredible art that changes the world. I'd like that.

For now, I'm glad with what I'm doing.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 09, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, ueharaa, whenever anyone asks me The Question, (which happens an awful lot, actually) I'm most inclined to help them understand their Soulmate karma (as it's 90% what it is) and encourage them to use my own example as proof you can be TOTALLY fulfilled with Soulmate relationships.

The Guardian Soulmate might even be some cool missing link I stumbled into. We shall see. So far, I'm encouraged.

It's not a 'half of your soul' thing, as I understand it, either. That DOES imply we ourselves are not complete as-is. Sure, we've got lessons to sort with Soulmates, but that's not to say we're INCOMPLETE.

Which is why that whole 'the one who completes you!' thing really bothers me. Even though I'M the one who shouted it, in such a fashion it was SO salient. Like the rhythm of everything around me supported the words as I sobbed them. Augh!

Out, out, damned spot!

That's kinda how I've come to feel of the whole Twin Flame jazz. And I deal with it A LOT.

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Delilah423
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posted September 09, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not looking for a twinflame and never have. I'm older than probably everyone on here and I'm certain I have many soulmates.

Typing this from my Kindle Fire HDX which wants me to write "inflamed" rather than twinflame and "schoolmates" instead of soulmates. I think the machine may be right.

Basically, I don't like the idea because I'm pretty sure I'm a complete soul just as is.

OTOH, as I read about the markers some are finding and get farther into a relationship with my current love, I am not happy to contemplate that there may be something to it.

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posted September 09, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:

Typing this from my Kindle Fire HDX which wants me to write "inflamed" rather than twinflame and "schoolmates" instead of soulmates. I think the machine may be right.


LMAO


That is the thing though having the markers I feel does not mean that TF exist, although who knows, it can just mean that you match the idea of what some people think or feel is an amazing synastry or composite.

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ReeseC
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posted September 09, 2014 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest, I am looking for my twin flame....or rather, I am open to meeting my twin flame because I have met two soul mates (whom I had amazing synastry with, composites with, but both were incredibly karmic).

I was told by a "psychic" (Delphina), I would meet my twin flame in this lifetime, and after my astro teacher found hers, and I would listen to her daily encounters with him, I became more intrigued with the idea.

In the end, I want love no matter if I've known him a thousand years, or a day.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 09, 2014 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I'm not looking for a twinflame and never have. I'm older than probably everyone on here and I'm certain I have many soulmates.

Typing this from my Kindle Fire HDX which wants me to write "inflamed" rather than twinflame and "schoolmates" instead of soulmates. I think the machine may be right.

Basically, I don't like the idea because I'm pretty sure I'm a complete soul just as is.

OTOH, as I read about the markers some are finding and get farther into a relationship with my current love, I am not happy to contemplate that there may be something to it.


I love that! About schoolmates.

And, yeah, Delilah, I'm with you. I feel as if I've been tossed into a deep, dark pool, and I'm hoping whatever's down there is friendly, as I have NO idea WHAT I'm doing -- or supposed to. Making it up as I go along.

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posted September 09, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
I was told by a "psychic" (Delphina), I would meet my twin flame in this lifetime, and after my astro teacher found hers, and I would listen to her daily encounters with him, I became more intrigued with the idea.

And this is the VERY reason I hate the 'commercialising' of Twin Flames. If only for the fact that most of these 'Twin Flames' aren't and have no concept of anything. They're sold on this BS faerie-tale ending idea, AND they keep shilling it to others. And they buy it.

God help us.

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Aubyanne
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posted September 09, 2014 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankly, like the original poster said:

What IS the big deal? Is it just 'everyone's seeking The One' v2.0? Why's it become synonymous with passionate romantic Soulmates?

I don't get it.

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ReeseC
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posted September 09, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
And this is the VERY reason I hate the 'commercialising' of Twin Flames. If only for the fact that most of these 'Twin Flames' aren't and have no concept of anything. They're sold on this BS faerie-tale ending idea, AND [b]they keep shilling it to others. And they buy it.

God help us.[/B]


Sorry. Even when she said it, I was skeptical, but I remained hopeful. Especially considering I had just went through an ordeal where I believed my ex husband was my twin flame.

My astro teacher and friend is in her mid 30s, and found hers and as I friend, I would listen to her struggle with both of them being married and yearning after each other, or at their wits end trying to figure out how not to hurt anybody, but be together. I would listen as a friend and give the best advice I could, all the while thinking "I really hope that if get the opportunity to find my twin flame, then he doesn't have this much baggage.

No commercializations really, considering most people don't even know what a twin flame is, let alone the difference between a karmic relationship, soulmate, and twin flame.
But I do believe often times, people who have found their twin flames either completely romanticize it, or make it out to be hell. However, why can't people see the beauty of it being both?though it's painful, especially if like in my friends case, both or one of you is married, it's still romantic knowing the person who literally completes your existence.

And I didn't pay a dime for that reading, I actually got it on the L in Chicago by chance. Lol so I literally didn't buy it all.

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mir
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posted September 10, 2014 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The dividing factor is a perceptive observation ueharaa.I get the metaphor of an Island with one palmtree under which one man is sitting with his back against. Enyoing every song of himself >.. aahg guys, we can do so much better! Aaii did I coincidentally describe some Sabian? Lol that would be nice!

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The purpose of twin flames is ascension. If you aren't ready to ascend, you aren't going to be qualified to reunite with your twin flame. And everyone is a twin flame, its just that not everyone meets them.

Meeting them means you have transcended duality and are done with life on earth, ready for higher learning and dimensions.

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posted September 10, 2014 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
However, why can't people see the beauty of it being both?though it's painful, especially if like in my friends case, both or one of you is married, it's still romantic knowing the person who literally completes your existence.

Forgive me, but I feel that's an outsider's view. It's all theory and very 'romantic' until your world is upside down, because you're Neo discovering reality is a Matrix, and in the midst of it all, you're now being asked to also believe that someone is your Twin Flame.

No, unless you've lived it, you can't see it for the absolute nightmare of an experience it can be. Especially if you're a bit on the love addicted side; the illusion of romance is all that's going to pervade. Namely the apparently limerent aspect.

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posted September 10, 2014 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Meeting them means you have transcended duality and are done with life on earth, ready for higher learning and dimensions.

I hardly believe that at this point. I'm honestly thinking we're more of a pair of heralds, sharing the grand story of our history -- in part as cautionary tale, but also as an example of the overwhelming power of love to overcome even the craziest odds.

As one of my dearest soulsisters has said, there's still something to be said for knowing one another at all. I've taken comfort in that during the rougher storms. But, fortunately, I'm now clearing the heftier karma with my Guardian, so who the hell knows what the future holds?

But the notion that all meet because they're ready to Reunite and Ascend? I don't think so. Some of us are here to share a story to help guide the rest 'home'. Guess we had to do that anyway. Done the higher learning and other dimensions. I long for it again in many cases, but I'm content being the 'messenger' and force of change and for transcendence that I'm slowly becoming.

It's worth it.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I hardly believe that at this point. I'm honestly thinking we're more of a pair of heralds, sharing the grand story of our history -- in part as cautionary tale, but also as an example of the overwhelming power of love to overcome even the craziest odds.

As one of my dearest soulsisters has said, there's still something to be said for knowing one another at all. I've taken comfort in that during the rougher storms. But, fortunately, I'm now clearing the heftier karma with my Guardian, so who the hell knows what the future holds?

But the notion that all meet because they're ready to Reunite and Ascend? I don't think so. Some of us are here to share a story to help guide the rest 'home'. Guess we had to do that anyway. Done the higher learning and other dimensions. I long for it again in many cases, but I'm content being the 'messenger' and force of change and for transcendence that I'm slowly becoming.

It's worth it.


You've done the higher learning and dimensions? Than why are you still human? lol..

Twin flames don't have karma together. Both meet when both are done with human nonsense. Otherwise they would be like all the rest of relationships. Twin flame relationships are rare, and even though you think you have met yours you probably haven't. Thats how rare they are.

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posted September 10, 2014 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:

Typing this from my Kindle Fire HDX which wants me to write "inflamed" rather than twinflame and "schoolmates" instead of soulmates. I think the machine may be right.


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posted September 10, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:

And the real question is WHY DOES IT MATTER?


Why wouldn't it matter to meet the other half of your soul, your ideal mate?

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posted September 10, 2014 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Why wouldn't it matter to meet the other half of your soul, your ideal mate?


I think she's refering to why would people want affirmation on that rather than just believe their heart.

I'm getting used to seeing threads asking about whether or not they're twinflames, everyone wants to be told their relationship is special and I understand that.

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posted September 10, 2014 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand where uehara is coming from and why she or he asked the question, but I believe the world is changing and people are not looking just to get married and have a family anymore (a former collective imperative), they are looking for higher love. It is a good thing. Once you remove the bondage of marriage, people start looking for quality relationships satisfying their individual needs, not the societal ones. It's a good thing because it shows freedom brings spirituality.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I understand where uehara is coming from and why she or he asked the question, but I believe the world is changing and people are not looking just to get married and have a family anymore (a former collective imperative), they are looking for higher love. It is a good thing. Once you remove the bondage of marriage, people start looking for quality relationships satisfying their individual needs, not the societal ones. It's a good thing because it shows freedom brings spirituality.


I agree, even though I also believe labeling relationships like this is a type of validation that I personally do not need (any more). I am perfectly ok not knowing in which category my relationship falls into.

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posted September 10, 2014 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the TF concept, some of you probably know already what it means to me - actually what the original concept is about: an IDEAL love relationship. Not one-sided, not painful in the long term. The opposite of painful and one-sided.
It's difficult and unwise to give absolute verdicts on synastries, but I see no problem in telling someone they probably found a great match, even the best match some times and I see no problem in them asking the question: Could he/she be my TF? Why not, if they have a great synastry? That's what TF means to me. And everyone has one. And they will all meet theirs when the time comes. The (happy) End.

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posted September 10, 2014 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
The purpose of twin flames is ascension. If you aren't ready to ascend, you aren't going to be qualified to reunite with your twin flame. And everyone is a twin flame, its just that not everyone meets them.

Meeting them means you have transcended duality and are done with life on earth, ready for higher learning and dimensions.



I agree with this theory completely 👍

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Delilah423
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posted September 10, 2014 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I am perfectly ok not knowing in which category my relationship falls into.


This. And why do relationships have to fall into categories, especially since there is no consensus on the categories, and no way of proving the various spiritual theories on which they are based?

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