posted September 11, 2014 10:30 AM            

a bit of backstory.. a bit long, sorry..

He came to my country as a teacher last year, went on a tour and I was his assistant in my city. at first we were just professional but then after dinner we clicked so very well. There was strong connection, especially mentally, and we were great team that often we finish each other sentences and our resulting ideas were very efficient to the students. Our work helped smooth everything out.

There was strong affection but he was attached so we didn't do anything though he expressed a bit of his feelings verbally just before he left . He returned to his country, our communication after was sporadic and ended up into none (naturally)

I was a very comfortable single woman and happy being alone (4 yrs after last relationship), but after him it sparked something in me that I long for something... which then I became more social and met someone which is another huge story on its own.

My personal life have never been the same ever since...

But strange thing is, after months of no communication, I ended up having to work in his city for a few days, so we resumed contact. he offered his place to stay as he already broke up with his girlfriend. I accepted.... but when I arrived, I had a misfortune of thievery, and he was going through a very very VERY hard time which made him very cold and uncaring but he still let me stay. Plus, I found out he was a bit of a player, just not to me. He can't be alone, basically, always needing to have someone/girlfriend w him regardless his level of attraction... in fact he was dating someone when I came. But his problem was severe enough he needed to go to shrink weekly.

Things were heavily awkward at first but quickly softens to the point he couldnt help but told me everything, he even cried several times. It was cathartic for him, and I kept him company for a few more days with silence inbetweens. Nothing physical happened whatsoever throughout my stay, but very deep talks happened and he was absolutely willingly being vulnerable to me, a stranger practically, which at first confused him but it kinda amused me on how confused he was, hahah. Eitherway, we had a certain bond and he was very much being his real self (good and bad combined), which I find entertaining/amusing and precious.

I was very much attracted to him (he is very attractive) but at that point I thought I was 'friendzoned' so I was trying to be just a good friend, unconditional affection as I care about him very much. I left him in good note. I returned to the drama back home.. since my heart was still involved with another man.. (no physical either, more like unrequited love. still single, 5 years now lol )

We did not keep up our correspondence.. well he didn't, I sent him a few emails every few months, and he only replied to a couple of them, then silence. I didn't really make a big deal out of it however, and stopped also.

Now that the drama with the other man is 'over', I'm readying myself to visit a country (coincidentally near his) in upcoming months for work. Suddenly he 'returns' and expressed interest in visiting me (he found out through social media). Of course I said yes. But I can't help but wonder what does he want, haha.

I can only describe my feelings for this person as deep affinity, affection and very happy attraction (looking at him makes me happy) and not at all possessive from my side. I don't want to say motherly because I very much like him -that- way, but it's kind of nurturer kinda feelings. It does feel like i'm the older one for some reason.

Despite the months of no communication, I have a feeling there's still this unspoken connection w/ him, but not as intense as it was for me with the other guy (the other guy was pretty much sun-pluto opposition doublewhammy, sun-saturn conjunct etc... very karmic, intense.) But this feels rather calming... less possessive from my side, but I feel happy about it even if there's nothing currently other than sporadic friendship. But I do have deep affection to him & still attracted as a woman! just not possessive, it's hard to describe.

So I wonder what does it show on the chart? I do notice each of us have strange chart ('very clean'). What does he feel about me really according to synastry?

I notice lack of passionate aspects... perhaps this is a friendship chart?

Any help or insight will be very very appreciated!

EDIT: Wow, I just noticed the nodal connections. Probably past life stuff, whew! I guess we're here to clear up past karmas and move on..

posted September 11, 2014 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
i didn't read the backstory... i don't want to know anything before i assess the chart. but this is very good synastry, potential here for a lasting connection as well. the moon positions are excellent. he has a stellium that is in a wide conjunction to your own moon, and he has his natal moon sitting within perhaps 2 degrees of your ASC, lovely aspect for romance and depth of feeling. the moons are also overlaid into great houses - the 5th and 1st, both "romantic' in nature and generally lead the partners to see one another as dating prospects. his north node is close to your DSC, which signifies a meaningful/transformative relationship. it looks like a lot of teaching/learning from one another since the 10th house and 9th house receive a lot of action reciprocally. perhaps travelling together, working together in another country, etc. the mars in sag - for you both - also indicates travel and exploring. it's good synastry,good for dating and likely a bit more. good luck.

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Thank you for your analysis, and no worries about not reading- but it does seem to explain the relationship especially the whole travel thing
But the distance is there, and he is a bit of a player/not quite mature hinders any romantic advances between us maybe.. & naaybe too much feelings & lack of lust? Dunno, we will see when we meet again.

Leeloo! Sorry here it is.

posted September 11, 2014 07:07 PM            

Would you post the composite, too?

Also, is the TOB correct? If so, that SATURN-PLUTO-VENUS with your MOON-SNODE-PLUTO ... wow!

posted September 11, 2014 07:12 PM            

here's composite!

I suppose I can only talk about my side, I do find his 'outer packaging' very attractive for some reason, whew! But less sexually, more like "you are very 'pretty'/attractive, wow!"
(i can say this because with the other guy the sexual tension was VERY thick and he was not 'pretty' so I really feel the difference. The other guy was masculine/manly, this guy is more 'feminine'/gentler looking. )

posted September 11, 2014 08:51 PM            

I'll have to look into this more deeply when I've got a bit more time. But the long and short would be: 'definitely unfolding'.

That's a lovely 'classic love stellium' by the way of VENUS-SUN-MERCURY. All within 1º-2º at most. I very much approve. Sounds as if it's quite active, too, given the warmth (generally) between you.

But do bear in mind he's a SUN conjunct PLUTO; your MOON is, unfortunately, in prime position to get the 'heaven and hell' that this aspect can produce. (Mea culpa, as my own is 2º.)

SATURN conjunct SUN is a whole other deal, too. They can be very overbearing at times. And with PLUTO? I certainly hope that he has a very good means of channelling anger and emotion. He has an incredible drive that MUST be GOING somewhere, INTO something.

And, no, relationships aren't going to hack it -- though, I'm sure, he tries, given VENUS is also there with PSYCHE.

posted September 12, 2014 01:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
..., intense relationships which focus around the issues or matters of the houses in which the stellia...10H and 9H.
.... 'definitely unfolding'.

... 'classic love stellium' by the way of VENUS-SUN-MERCURY. All within 1º-2º at most. ...Sounds as if it's quite active, ...

... SUN conjunct PLUTO; your MOON is, unfortunately, in prime position to get the 'heaven and hell' that this aspect can produce. ...

SATURN conjunct SUN with PLUTO?....hope that he has a very good means of channelling anger and emotion. He has an incredible drive that MUST be GOING somewhere, INTO something.
And, no, relationships aren't going to hack it -- though, I'm sure, he tries, given VENUS is also there with PSYCHE.
He's a bit of a mixed-bag, this one. Definitely a character.

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Hello, thank you for your kindness!
Sounds like him. Again, due to circumstance I am not sure if we ever get into relationship (distance & circumstances) but what u say about him is right. I can tell his frustration (saturn sun pluto) yet due to a very heavy problem he's currently very held back by it. He has a high sense of justice, can be quite angry when injustice happened... unfortunately he's currently (in his mind) the victim.

He loves relationships because it stimulates him and perhaps he thinks it can save him somewhat, I dunno. But he started to realize transient loves don't have that much effect after all. He's still looking for his soulmate though I think.

If you have time, could you read mine also? I have stellium in 3rd house in pisces and most other planets in 12th.. which probably explains my lack of lovelife but advancing career in the last few years )

edit: also, whenever we work together, or even just mentioning each other when our work gets published it boosts things up (currently more he got boosted up by my works, before it was him who boosted my work)

posted September 12, 2014 03:04 PM            

The synastric overlays do not point to a romantic relationship either.
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posted September 12, 2014 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm afraid the composite doesn't look very good, I'm not sure it points to a possible relationship.

The synastric overlays do not point to a romantic relationship either.

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posted September 13, 2014 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Why do you say, Lee? It seems as if it's certainly possible. There are some very strong ties here.

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Four planets, out of which Moon and Saturn, are just floating in there, unanchored.

posted September 14, 2014 09:45 AM            

An exact pVenus/nMars trine (her Venus) of which that same pVenus in an applying opp. to his nVenus by 2* (which currently within 1* applying). That same pVenus right-now is also on its way to make an opp. his natal Sun (by 4*)..

And something really outstanding is also that enduring pVenus/pSun (his Venus) applying trine by 2,5 currently. That's a blessed one for the next decade.

The progressions are a miracle, I swear.

posted September 14, 2014 10:41 AM            

I reeeally don't feel like retyping everything, but here is the gist of it:

1) I agree with LeeLoo. Lots of attractants, sure, and clear ones, but overall, I don't think this could be a good relationship.
2) Non-mutuality: his AC and NN in your 7th house, but your AC in his 6th and your NN in his 11th.
3) Not a good, nurturing relationship: in composite, Moon on South Node(so feelings can be strong and solid at first, but will pass and be neglected with time), completely empty House 2 and Taurus.
4) Moon on SN in composite is a big pointer to past karma/past lives together, and since you are BOTH Moon/SN people natally, a great karmic link is evident for you both.
5) You mentioned in your very first post that he changed your life very much. The first thing we look to for that is Uranus, and sure enough, his Mars is exact on your Uranus. Very exciting aspect, very electrifying. But not lasting.

Overall, I'd say this is an important relationship, and a large clearing of karma. But I don't see it being a happy romantic relationship.

posted September 14, 2014 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I love it when a man's NEPTUNE is conjunct my MOON, too. I can imagine it's much the same when it's their MOON on mine. It's a warm, telepathic, and very 'soft' feeling. Intuitive and a bit surreal.

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posted September 15, 2014 07:23 AM            

mir : Haha, thanks for your addition! I guess I am still unsure how to calculate progressed chart(s). We might remain friends, even if no romance I mean maybe there's feelings but ... hmmm too many interferences! And I now seek equal effort from anyone )

libran_dream: Thank you for your analysis!
1. Understandable, I don't really 'feel' it will be any intimate relationship, sure I'm attracted but so far things have been pretty much mismatched.

2 & 3 : makes perfect sense seems like it only ignites when there's close proximity and definitely he wont endure it due to... player part. he can't be alone, basically!

4. Yeah, perhaps we come to finish our karma

5. Yeah, he changed the way I look at relationships (even if he wasn't 'in' the progress, just the catalyst.)

and last one 5.) No worries! I am not that deeply attached (despite the lengthy description), I liked what I had, and liked that part of him that he showed. Unfortunately I think he's easily influenced by stronger force (whoever close) and honestly pulling someone towards any path is not in my agenda. I will outgrow him for sure since he is not the initiator type and I no longer wish to carry anyone (if it makes sense ) but I will enjoy our time together when we meet again, if he comes up as he said

Charlie: thanks for chiming in- it's nice while it lasted! Definitely a thing