posted September 12, 2014 09:56 AM            

His TORO is conjunct my TANTALUS, (0°50).
My TANTALUS conjunct his TORO, (4°50)

While wider than I'm used to using, the fact it's a dual conjunction with it 1° one way has me kinda paying closer attention and considering the 4°50' one.

But wait, there's more!

These conjunctions are in each other's 12H! While not quite conjunct, close to, or in the sign of, each other's KARMA: Leo and Scorpio. No antiscia, however.

But there are some intriguing dynamics.

His TANTALUS conjunct my LILITH (2°) and MOON (4°) and square his KARMA (1°) and VENUS (3°).
My TANTALUS conjunct my MOON (0°).
My TORO conjunct my ISIS (1°) and his JUNO (0°); along with his conjunct it, (1°).
Our TANTALUSES are square, (3°).

I ought to note his TANTALUS is way OOB. 59°N! Mine is tightly parallel my SUN, (7°S).

His TORO is opposite our weird TISIPHONE/HADES=CHIRON, too. (2°). That means it's square my NODES, also by 2°.

Any clues to this pattern? How they might be operating? I'm not sure if 'family curse' (TANTALUS) works in synastric context. And is TORO always intimidation?

posted September 12, 2014 11:23 AM            

I was reading about Toro the other day. I do know Toro means Bull in Spanish:

posted September 12, 2014 11:44 AM            

Asteroid Tantalus comes from the word tantalize. As you might imagine, Tantalus is where we want something badly but it is out of our reach and seems to remain so. The word does not suggest resolution so I would say that one would not find resolution to what which one desires . The word connotes that one will be close enough to see and touch the desire of one’s affections but not to CLAIM it. I saw this situation with a man who had Tantalus conjunct Venus. He wanted a soul mate but threw everyone away until all he had left was one night stands."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000992.html

What do you think of this definition for Tantalus? Do you feel it might fit your situation?

My ex Tantalus conjuncts my Southnode by one orb.

posted September 12, 2014 11:58 AM            

If Toros strengthens a planet and you have Tantulus-Toros doubly whammy I would think you too are out of reach to each other, like a Mega Tease to one another; you think you are getting close but he or she still ends up being out of reach.

OR you don't give each other what you need leaving eachother unsatisfied and never truly happy.