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mollywu
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posted September 14, 2014 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been in this relationship with my current bf for almost 8 years. The beginning was pretty good. Later on, lots of arguments started which hurt me a lot, even this March I was thinking of moving out. Now our relationship gets better. But I take him more as a brother instead of a bf/lover. I start to learn astrology to find out my relationship. Will we get married at last, I want to know so much.

People said Saturn and Pluto always hold the relationship, we have many good and bad aspects in them:
Me Aspect Him Orb
Sun Quincunx Saturn 3.00
Moon Quincunx Saturn 5.47
Moon Sextile Pluto 4.59
Venus Quincunx Saturn 2.06
Mars Square Saturn 5.29
Mars Sextile Pluto 4.78
Saturn Conjunct Pluto 2.4
Uranus Sextile Pluto 0.67
Neptune Square Pluto 0.35
Chiron Trine Pluto 4.2
True Node Quincunx Saturn 0.46
Saturn Trine Sun 2.82
Saturn Trine Moon 5.17
Saturn Trine Mercury 0.61
Saturn Conjunct Uranus 4.76
Saturn Conjunct Pluto 2.4
Pluto Quincunx Sun 1.02
Pluto Quincunx Moon 3.37
Pluto Quincunx Mercury 1.19
Pluto Conjunct Mars 0.67


Please help me read the charts. Any comments are highly appreciated.

Synastry

Composite

Updated with natal charts. Do our natal charts show we have big problem in relationships/marriage??
My natal

His natal

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mollywu
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posted September 14, 2014 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friendly bump.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 14, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's an important relationship, but the charts suggest you may move on, Molly.

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posted September 14, 2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are no fortune-tellers. We only can see potentials and conflicts and having said that, i see too many conflicts.

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posted September 14, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do not despair Mollywu. I will look in my chrystal progressed ball to see if there's some future potential for the both of u.

Is it possible to give me the birth data here?

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posted September 14, 2014 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if you could, because I'd like to check a few things, too.

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posted September 14, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Do not despair Mollywu. I will look in my chrystal progressed ball to see if there's some future potential for the both of u.

Is it possible to give me the birth data here?


hi mir.thanks a million for ur kindness...do u just need my birthday info? mine is at 6:25am, August 29,1979 , anxian ,sichuan province, china.

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posted September 14, 2014 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Aubyanne, thank u a lot . .it is so sweet of u . my birthday information is given below my reply to mir.

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posted September 14, 2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem. But we also need his' data....

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posted September 14, 2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
We are no fortune-tellers. We only can see potentials and conflicts and having said that, i see too many conflicts.

hi Enneline, thanks for ur comments..yes u r right.lots of conflicts ,esp. on communications .

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posted September 14, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's an important relationship, but the charts suggest you may move on, Molly.

hi , i am very much grateful for ur kindness and advice....in the past few years...moving out to move on is always on my mind...we had lots of communication trouble...i wanted to move on...however, whenever i think of he probablywill be lonely for a long time or maybe a lifetime. i feelvery sad ...he was divorced and remained for six years before he met me .. ...by the way, could u please tell me where the charts say i should move on..

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posted September 14, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
No problem. But we also need his' data....

thank u again, mir.
his is 4am, may 10, 1967, kaixian, chongqing city, china.

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posted September 14, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
No problem. But we also need his' data....

thank u again, mir.
his is 4am, may 10, 1967, kaixian, chongqing city, china.

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posted September 14, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, I got it.

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posted September 14, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mollywu:
hi , i am very much grateful for ur kindness and advice....in the past few years...moving out to move on is always on my mind...we had lots of communication trouble...i wanted to move on...however, whenever i think of he probablywill be lonely for a long time or maybe a lifetime. i feelvery sad ...he was divorced and remained for six years before he met me .. ...by the way, could u please tell me where the charts say i should move on..


Hi, this possible scenario is suggested by your Yod in the synastry and by the composite, especially the squares from the 6th and 9th rulers.

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posted September 14, 2014 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok..

I come to the conclusion that - next to some progressed gaps in between - there's definitely some interesting potential for the future. To my progressed knowlegde it can only become better over time.

Currently her progressed Venus is applying conjunct to his progressed Mars, within 1 degree, which might definitely underline her stating that's it's going better between them lately.

This one ^ will reach its peak in augustus 2015.

After that ^ it will take some years before a nice pVenus/nVenus trine will come into orb. The peak of this one will be in 2022, but ofcourse it will be felt earlier.

(and don't forget our progressed rule -> when the aspect is felt with 2 applying the difference will be felt with 2 separating - so take some extra time into account)

Again, some years later... we get an applying beauty of which many would be jealous... a progressed DW Sun/Venus trine & conjunction + Venus/Venus conj. at-the-same-time..

after that some more interesting aspects.


SO.. the progressions do definitely NOT give reason to let go, that's my conclusion.

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posted September 14, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Hi, this possible scenario is suggested by your Yod in the synastry and by the composite, especially the squares from the 6th and 9th rulers.


Hi LeeLoo2014, thanks for explanation more. I just added our natal, I read somewhere he and I have big problems in relationship. My SN in Neptune which indicates I always love the wrong one or in a wrong relationship. His DSC in Libra which ruled by Venus, while his Venus in Gemini in 3rd House which also indicates difficulty in relationship/marriage. I want to know if it is very true, if it is, then he and I would be stuck in a bad relationship this life???? Would you please tell me what you think about the natal charts. Thank you so much.

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posted September 14, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Ok..

SO.. the progressions do definitely NOT give reason to let go, that's my conclusion.



Mir, you are such a nice person. Thanks a million for your help. I wonder if both of our natal charts show we have big trouble in relationship. Can we find our true love? I have been a few relationships, always left with heart broken. He had a 10-year marriage before he divorced. His ex remarriage but died of cancer last year. It is so sad. To me, I keep this relationship because of duty. I feel too bad if I leave him and he will be suffering deeply. But I also feel bad our relationship had little lover's love too me..

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I can't possibly answer if you'll get married to him by a synastry chart...

That's what horary is there for.

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posted September 15, 2014 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroblues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mollywu,

I'm not very good at analyzing charts - can you provide a written list of your synastry? I might be able to provide some more insight that way.

In regards to your Pluto and Saturn connections, both of these planets are exceptionally draining (especially Saturn). Without other more lighthearted aspects (Venus/Jupiter, Venus/Moon, for example), the two of you may not be able to take pleasure in the world together. Pluto engenders obsessive qualities, and with so much Pluto going on, your relationship can become too isolated from reality, the two of you living in your own made-up and private oscillation between heaven and hell. With pluto, when it's good - oh my . . .

it is good, isn't it?

But when it's bad, it can be really scary and dangerous. If not physical violence, then emotional and mental abuse characterizes plutonian relations. And saturn . . . well, too much of him is never a good thing. Saturn restricts us, and whatever personal planet he touches will wince, at least a little (how much this is felt depends on the orb and the aspect, any adversity will be more keenly felt if there is a square between the two planets compared to a trine, to clarify). Without aspects that promise warmth, joy, and a general sense of having fun together in the relationship, the Saturn and Pluto will make it really hard for the two of you to cultivate happiness together.

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posted September 15, 2014 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astroblues:
mollywu,
it is good, isn't it?


Hi astroblues. It is very very kind of you to help me to analyze this relationship.

Ok, here is the list of synastry.

Me Aspect Him Orbs
Sun Sextile Venus 5.49
Sun Quincunx Saturn 3.00
Sun Quincunx Chiron 6.41
Sun Trine True Node 1.95
Sun Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.5
Sun Quincunx ASC 2.85
Sun Trine MC 0.13
Moon Opposite Sun 5.02
Moon Opposite Moon 7.36
Moon Opposite Mercury 2.8
Moon Quincunx Saturn 5.47
Moon Sextile Uranus 6.96
Moon Sextile Pluto 4.59
Moon Quincunx Lilith 1.5
Moon Quincunx ASC 5.62
Mercury Square Sun 2.28
Mercury Square Moon 0.07
Mercury Square Mercury 4.49
Mercury Sextile Mars 3.96
Mercury Square Neptune 2.34
Venus Quincunx Saturn 2.06
Venus Trine True Node 1.02
Venus Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.43
Venus Quincunx ASC 1.91
Venus Trine MC 1.06
Mars Sextile Sun 5.2
Mars Sextile Moon 7.55
Mars Sextile Mercury 2.98
Mars Square Mars 3.51
Mars Square Saturn 5.29
Mars Sextile Pluto 4.78
Mars Square Lilith 1.68
Mars Square ASC 5.43
Jupiter Square Sun 4.94
Jupiter Square Moon 2.59
Jupiter Square Neptune 0.32
Jupiter Quincunx Chiron 5.16
Saturn Trine Sun 2.82
Saturn Trine Moon 5.17
Saturn Trine Mercury 0.61
Saturn Conjunct Uranus 4.76
Saturn Conjunct Pluto 2.4
Saturn Quincunx Lilith 0.69
Uranus Opposite Sun 1.1
Uranus Opposite Moon 3.44
Uranus Opposite Mercury 1.12
Uranus Sextile Uranus 3.04
Uranus Conjunct Neptune 5.71
Uranus Sextile Pluto 0.67
Uranus Quincunx Lilith 2.42
Neptune Quincunx Sun 0.77
Neptune Quincunx Moon 3.12
Neptune Quincunx Mercury 1.45
Neptune Sextile Mars 0.92
Neptune Square Uranus 2.71
Neptune Square Pluto 0.35
Neptune Trine Lilith 2.75
Pluto Quincunx Sun 1.02
Pluto Quincunx Moon 3.37
Pluto Quincunx Mercury 1.19
Pluto Conjunct Mars 0.67
Pluto Opposite Lilith 2.49
Chiron Conjunct Sun 4.62
Chiron Conjunct Moon 6.96
Chiron Conjunct Mercury 2.4
Chiron Quincunx Mars 2.93
Chiron Trine Pluto 4.2
Lilith Quincunx Saturn 2.44
Lilith Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.06
Lilith Quincunx ASC 2.29
Lilith Trine MC 0.68
True Node Quincunx Saturn 0.46
True Node Trine True Node 1.51
True Node Quincunx ASC 0.61
P. of Fortune Quincunx Neptune 0.36
Vertex Square Lilith 1.93
ASC Sextile Venus 2.42
ASC Quincunx Chiron 3.35
ASC Quincunx ASC 5.91
MC Sextile Jupiter 1.41
MC Sextile Chiron 0.82
MC Quincunx MC 5.47

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posted September 15, 2014 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I can't possibly answer if you'll get married to him by a synastry chart...

That's what horary is there for.


Hi Mia,
It is very nice of you to give comments. In fact, I feel very touched and grateful for all the comments here by you guys. I don't know about horary. So I will try later. Thanks, Mia.

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posted September 15, 2014 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In each chart, there is enough to balance the challenges and challenges only make us stronger anyway.

In your chart, the challenge is to have DSC in Pisces, which sometimes makes you idealize certain people in the beginning and not see them in their true light. But whenever there is a DSC in Pisces, there is an ASC in Virgo, a very down to earth sign. Plus your square from your Saturn would never let you hold an illusion for a long time. You have a very nice Butterfly between Mars/Pluto Saturn/Neptune focused on the 2nd house - it looks like a very constructive config; you will find much freedom through your work. The second challenge for you is Moon conjunct Uranus in Scorpio, which makes you emotionally restless and unpredictable with a square from Mercury, intercepted ruler, which you need to learn to control for the benefit of all people involved. Remember that being free means bringing freedom to all people involved, selfishness is to be avoided at all costs.


For him, he has a peregrine Venus in Gem 3rd 29, he is even more restless, and a peregrine Mars in Libra 7th - a more difficult chart when it comes to relationships, he needs a very strong woman to ground him, without caging him, most likely one with strong Virgo/Pisces.

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posted September 15, 2014 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
For him, he has a peregrine Venus in Gem.............

Good morning Leeloo2014, thanks a great deal for explaining further more for me. I really appreciate your kindness.

Yes, you are right, I am quite emotional. I try very hard to control my temper, even this afternoon a small thing can make me annoyed...I hate myself to act like that. I also agree I over-idealize people often. So those are my biggest lessons for me to learn in my life.

For him, I translated what you said to him, it seemed he didn't quite understand why you said that. He thinks he is loyal and and he thinks he is more like a Taurus than Gemini on feelings. He is a good man, but he does have a hot temper. His words sometimes are too harsh for me, which often annoyed me. So would you please tell us why his Gemini Venus and Libra DSC makes his relationship more difficult? Thanks again!

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posted September 15, 2014 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here you can read a bit about unaspected (peregrine) planets:
http://www.hniizato.com/interpreting-unaspected-planets-noel-tyls-definition-of-a-peregrine-planet/
http://psyast.blogspot.ro/2010/10/peregrine-planets-ship-without-rudder.html

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