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Topic: Is Saturn Square Venus to Blame?
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astroblues
Newflake Posts: 7
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Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 07:55 PM
  
Dear All,I'm trying to make sense of the synastry between myself and someone whom I felt very strongly for. I wanted so badly for us to work out, but the relationship never took off; we never really could get it off the ground. Whatever we did have, however, has ended now . . . we no longer maintain contact, and there's an unfortunate iciness that exists between us. I'm trying to understand what was in the way of the connection progressing into something more meaningful. I felt so much chemistry with him that not allowing whatever we had between us to develop seemed unnatural, forced and maybe even deliberate. I'm still hurting over the fallout of what never truly started to begin with. If anyone can offer insight, whether it be in regards to why the relationship never took off, or how to move on, thank you. (I am W, and he is M). W Aspect M Orb/Value
Moon Trine Mercury 3.35 106
Mercury Square Mercury 1.44 -189
Mercury Trine Saturn 1.19 80
Venus Conjunction Moon 2.11 208
Venus Sextile Mercury 1.52 73
Venus Square Saturn 2.17 -90
Venus Conjunction Midheaven 0.02 61
Mars Conjunction Sun 4.15 154
Mars Sextile Ascendant 0.16 82
Uranus Trine Mars 3.59 37
Uranus Opposition Jupiter 2.03 -51
Uranus Sextile Uranus 1.19 40
Uranus Square Pluto 0.09 -87
Neptune Opposition Jupiter 0.55 -57
Neptune Square Pluto 2.49 -45
Pluto Square Venus 1.48 -80
Pluto Trine Jupiter 3.54 31
872 -599 273 P.S. I've noticed that there are sometimes different aspects that show up depending on the software used. Here is another interpretation generated from another source (not including asteroid synastry, but I do have that as well in case anyone would like to see it). M's moon in strong sextile with W's moon (3.3 degrees)
M's moon in strong conjunction with W's venus (2.2 degrees)
M's mercury in strong square with W's mercury (1.7 degrees)
M's mercury in strong sextile with W's venus (1.9 degrees)
M's venus is strong square with W's pluto (1.8 degrees)
M's pluto in sesquiquadrate with W's venus (0.7 degrees)
M's jupiter in strong opposition with W's uranus (2.0 degrees)
M's jupiter in strong opposition with W's neptune (0.9 degrees)
M's jupiter in strong conjunction with W's ascendant (1.0 degrees)
M's ascendant in semi-sextile with W's jupiter (1.1 degrees)
M's saturn in strong trine with W's mercury (1.3 degrees)
M's mercury in weak opposition with W's saturn (8.2 degrees)
M's uranus in strong sextile with W's uranus (1.3 degrees)
M’s pluto in strong square with W’s uranus (0.1 degrees)
M’s uranus in weak conjunction with W’s pluto (7.2 degrees)
M’s pluto in strong square with W’s ascendant (0.9 degrees)
M’s north node in strong trine with W’s venus (1.4 degrees)
M’s ascendant in strong sextile with W’s mars (0.2 degrees)
M’s midheaven in strong conjunction with W’s venus (exact)
M’s sun in quintile with W’s mercury (1.4 degrees)
M’s mercury in square with W’s sun (5.5 degrees)
M’s sun in conjunction with W’s mars (4.2 degrees)
M’s sun in inconjunct with W’s Saturn (3.5 degrees)
M’s Saturn in trine with W’s sun (5.1 degrees)
M’s sun in opposition with W’s Uranus (4.4 degrees)
M’s sun in conjunction with W’s ascendant (5.4 degrees)
M’s moon semi-sextile W’s mercury (1.4 degrees)
M’s mercury in trine with W’s moon (3.5 degrees)
M’s moon in sesquiquadrate with W’s Uranus (1.4 degrees)
M’s moon in trine with W’s north node (3.7 degrees)
M’s north node in weak opposition with W’s moon (6.8 degrees)
M’s moon in sextile with W’s midheaven (5.1 degrees)
M’s midheaven in sextile with W’s moon (5.5 degrees)
M’s midheaven in sesquiquadrate W’s Uranus (0.8 degrees)
M’s midheaven semi-square W’s ascendant (0.2 degrees)
M’s venus in trine with W’s sun (4.3 degrees)
M’s mars in trine with W’s Uranus (4.0 degrees)
M’s mars in quintile with W’s pluto (2.1 degrees)
M’s mars sesquiquadrate W’s North Node (1.1 degrees)
M’s north node in weak square with W’s mars (4.2 degrees)
M’s Saturn in inconjunct with W’s moon (3.1 degrees)
M’s Saturn in square with W’s venus (2.3 degrees)
M’s venus in inconjunct with W’s Neptune (1.2 degrees)
M’s Neptune in trine with W’s sun (5.9 degrees)
M’s sun in weak opposition with W’s Neptune (7.4 degrees) IP: Logged |
starmoon
Knowflake Posts: 1368
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Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 14, 2014 08:14 PM
HOW TO GET YOUR CHART
1. Go to www.astro.com . You can create a free account or enter your birth data as a guest; however, creating an account will allow you to save your information – great for trying the different charts both for yourself and for others in your life. If you don’t know the exact time of your birth, do your best to find out – it *is* important.
2. Go to “Free Horoscopes” and then to “Extended Chart Selection.”
3. “Natal Chart Wheel” is the default, but you will need to go to “House System” (under “Options” use the drop-down to change to “equal”).
4. Click on “Click here to show the Chart,” then click on the chart which will appear.
5. Right-click and save the chart to your desktop.
HOW TO UPLOAD YOUR CHART
1. Create a free account at www.photobucket.com .
2. Select “Upload Now” which will bring up “Select Photos and Videos.”
3. Navigate to your desktop and select.
4. On right, click “Save and continue to my album.”
5. When you hover the mouse pointer over the chart, you will see that a box appears with a few options. If you need to edit out your name or anything else you don’t feel comfortable sharing on the boards, “edit” is in the top band of options. Select “edit” which opens your chart and provides editing options. Go to the tab “Decorate,” and you will see a number of icons, one of which is an eraser. Erase what you need to, and click “Replace original.”
6. Saving should take you to a new screen where you can see your chart and to the right, a bank of options to “Share this photo.” Click on the IMG code, which will flash and let you know that you’ve copied the link.
7. Go to your thread, open a new post and paste your link.
8. Don’t move or delete your chart from Photobucket, because the link only goes to where the chart was saved! IP: Logged |
astroblues
Newflake Posts: 7
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Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 08:48 PM
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astroblues
Newflake Posts: 7
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posted September 14, 2014 09:44 PM
Ok here is the chart: M is on the inside, and W is on the outside.[IMG]http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah316/venusianblu es/45 89da1e-ba56-4b80-9bfd-ef6326bfcedb_zpsb5af9a8a.png[/IMG] IP: Logged |
mollywu
Knowflake Posts: 49
From: Chengdu, China
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by astroblues:
[B]Ok here is the chart: M is on the inside, and W is on the outside.
Hello astroblues, you can put charts directly here by this way, you only need add [IMG] before your chart link and [/IMG] after your chart link. I want to know others' opinions too because I have bad aspects with two guys, my venus are square/quincunx their saturn. it seems I am always the one to suffer because of their coldness/aloofness of saturn. Is it a sign that relationship cannot be worked out if there are many hard aspects on saturn? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
Knowflake Posts: 8121
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 14, 2014 10:20 PM
You have Mars trine Uranus - that could point to a sudden fall out.Mercury square Mercury and Mercury trine Saturn aren't hot, but squared Mercuries aren't an end all either, just something to note. Pluto square Venus - I kind of see Pluto as pushier than Mars, perhaps this is why you felt it should've progressed but he didn't?... IP: Logged |
astroblues
Newflake Posts: 7
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Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 10:45 PM
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I want to know others' opinions too because I have bad aspects with two guys, my venus are square/quincunx their saturn. it seems I am always the one to suffer because of their coldness/aloofness of saturn. Is it a sign that relationship cannot be worked out if there are many hard aspects on saturn?[/B]
mollywu, It's not necessarily a sign that the relationship cannot work out, but harsh aspects between saturn and venus are notoriously difficult to deal with (the square more than the quincunx though, since the latter is a minor aspect). On the one hand, aspects between saturn and venus indicate commitment, and a feeling of responsibility between the lovers. On the other hand, though, Saturn is terribly cold toward Venus, and is known to test her in love: to make her wait, to make her prove herself, to make her show just how true her devotion really is. Feeling defeated, overwhelmed, and tired from the relationship, Venus eventually withdraws her affection. I've read before that within Saturn, typically, lies a deep longing for Venus - one so strong that he pushes her away out of his own fears and insecurities. When Venus stops showing that love, Saturn feels hurt, but will maintain his cold, and apparently unemotional exterior. The predicament: how do we overcome the negative interaction between these two planets - especially in the case of the square, as it certainly can yield, over time, a profound and lasting connection between two people.
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plutomercjup20
Knowflake Posts: 278
From: I live where you vacation
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 11:45 PM
I'm going through basically the same thing that you were going through although I still have a bit of hope left but not much honestly. I definitely think Saturn has a lot to do with it. I have a lot of Saturn contacts with the guy I've been interested in and no matter I hard I try I feel like something is holding us from actually having something?? Very hard to explain but I think a lot of Saturn in the synastry could be one of the reasons. I don't have the Saturn square venus with him , I have the conjunction. So maybe Saturn/venus could be one of the reasons. In my case it could also be our nn contacts since apparently those are maybe meant for the next lifetime or something like that.IP: Logged |
astroblues
Newflake Posts: 7
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Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by plutomercjup20:
I'm going through basically the same thing that you were going through although I still have a bit of hope left but not much honestly. I definitely think Saturn has a lot to do with it. I have a lot of Saturn contacts with the guy I've been interested in and no matter I hard I try I feel like something is holding us from actually having something?? Very hard to explain but I think a lot of Saturn in the synastry could be one of the reasons. I don't have the Saturn square venus with him , I have the conjunction. So maybe Saturn/venus could be one of the reasons. In my case it could also be our nn contacts since apparently those are maybe meant for the next lifetime or something like that.
hi plutomercjup20, Can you list some of the more significant aspects in your synastry? I'm interested in taking a look! It might be helpful to see what similarities exist in our individual synastries. The conjunction, for the record, is the strongest blend that exists between any two planets, so I have no doubt that your Venus is experiencing some heaviness as a result of Saturn's synastric sting. Saturn/Venus is one of the main reasons why your relationship isn't making progress, in all likelihood. In terms of north node and south node contacts, the north node indicates "where we're going" while the south node represents "where we've already been." The north node doesn't really indicate where we are going in future lifetimes - it indicates where we have to go, and what we have to do, now, right here and in this lifetime. If your partner's saturn is hitting your north node, for example, you might develop the feeling that you're not able to move forward, as if something is holding you back. IP: Logged |
mollywu
Knowflake Posts: 49
From: Chengdu, China
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 12:55 AM
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The predicament: how do we overcome the negative interaction between these two planets - especially in the case of the square, as it certainly can yield, over time, a profound and lasting connection between two people.[/B]
Hello astroblues,thank you for explaining me futhur about Saturn and Pluto's effects. Here is another guy who effected me a lot with his Saturn and Pluto. Would you please tell me more, I tried to find explanation about all the aspects, but failed, esp. about Pluto Conjunct Lilith.... I want to know if I am the one more affected badly. Sorry I use your topic trying to finger out my relationship problems.
Me Aspect Him Orbs
Saturn Square Sun 6.84
Saturn Square Mercury 4.03
Saturn Opposite Jupiter 4.64
Saturn Quincunx Saturn 4.34
Saturn Sextile Neptune 4.27
Saturn Opposite Chiron 4.88
Saturn Opposite Vertex 2.17
Pluto Trine Mercury 2.23
Pluto Sextile P. of Fortune 0.59
Pluto Trine MC 5.73
Him Aspect Me Orbs
Saturn Quincunx Sun 6.32
Saturn Square Moon 2.15
Saturn Quincunx Venus 5.39
Saturn Quincunx Mars 1.96
Saturn Quincunx Saturn 4.34
Saturn Square Chiron 2.54
Saturn Quincunx True Node 2.86
Pluto Conjunct Sun 2.54
Pluto Sextile Moon 5.93
Pluto Conjunct Venus 1.61
Pluto Sextile Mars 5.74
Pluto Conjunct Lilith 1.98
Pluto Conjunct True Node 0.92
Pluto Conjunct Ascendant 5.61
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LeeLoo2014
Moderator Posts: 6039
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 06:53 AM
Hello, Astroblues and welcome to Interpersonal Astrology!  I wanted to take a look at your chart, but it's no longer visible. It's better to post the chart directly here, you can delete it afterwords if you wish.
For this, copy the "link for forums" given by Photobucket here. You will see, when you look at your chart uploaded in Photobucket, a list of links to the right: IM and Email, Direct, Html, IMAGE I believe it's either "direct" or "image" and you copy that link here.
I always use Tinyic, you upload the chart there and they give a "link for forums" which you copy directly here. Very simple.
------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
plutomercjup20
Knowflake Posts: 278
From: I live where you vacation
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 10:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by astroblues:
hi plutomercjup20,Can you list some of the more significant aspects in your synastry? I'm interested in taking a look! It might be helpful to see what similarities exist in our individual synastries. The conjunction, for the record, is the strongest blend that exists between any two planets, so I have no doubt that your Venus is experiencing some heaviness as a result of Saturn's synastric sting. Saturn/Venus is one of the main reasons why your relationship isn't making progress, in all likelihood. In terms of north node and south node contacts, the north node indicates "where we're going" while the south node represents "where we've already been." The north node doesn't really indicate where we are going in future lifetimes - it indicates where we have to go, and what we have to do, now, right here and in this lifetime. If your partner's saturn is hitting your north node, for example, you might develop the feeling that you're not able to move forward, as if something is holding you back.
Alright in going to list first the Saturn aspects and then like some other ones , btw I don't know his time of birth so his moon aspects may not be correct
My Saturn conjunct his venus (4)
My Saturn trine his moon (8)
My Saturn semisextile his mars (2)
My Saturn trine his Jupiter (3)
My Saturn sesquiquadrate his Juno (0) His Saturn square my sun (4)
His Saturn trine my moon (-2)
His Saturn square my mercury (6)
His Saturn quintile my venus (-1)
His Saturn quintile my mars (0)
His Saturn square my Pluto (0)
His saturn square my ASC (9)
His Saturn is conjunct my MC (4) Other aspects
His North node conjunct my sun (0)
His north node conjunct my mercury (1)
His north node conjcunct my Pluto (2)
His north node square my MC (0)
My north node square his moon (0)
His Pluto conjuct my sun (0)
His Pluto conjunct my mercury (1)
My Pluto square his sun (3)
My Pluto square his mercury (2)
My Pluto trine his moon (4) I wasn't sure what significant aspects exactly means but if anything just tell me what else you want me to add. Hope this helps! Yes the conjunction is the strongest in my opinion too hehe but no is actually the other way around , I'm actually the Saturn , he's the venus. Oh I see what you mean yeah I for some reason can't seem to get rid of him which is a bit torturous knowing that I probably won't be able to have him but luckily Saturn does not interfere with the north node in our synastry. IP: Logged | |
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