posted September 16, 2014 12:25 PM            

And, I finally found out his birth time, so I'd appreciate any opinions/feedback!

posted September 18, 2014 10:10 AM            

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posted September 19, 2014 01:17 PM            

We laugh so much together and always try new things. We're different in a lot of ways but it works.

And, I really think this is the man I'm going to marry. He has proposed already but is working on getting the ring before we announce it to our families and friends.

posted September 20, 2014 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hey, I'm happy for you! Good luck! Maybe you have specific questions? because it's a bit difficult and complex to do an entire analysis.

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I guess I'd like to know what sticks out most in these charts that could explain our love for one another.

From our synastry, it looks like I'm the more smitten one bc of his planets that conjunct my node in the seventh house. Also, my vertex falls on his moon and ascendant. I can't find much on that aspect though. But what am I possibly missing here that could explain his attraction to me?

In the composite, I'm just curious as to what the configuration (a T-square) means. Also, I'm unfamiliar with Davison charts so I'd love to learn more about that.

posted September 21, 2014 06:12 PM            

For your other questions, I would love to see your charts with certain asteroids, I call them love asteroids...I'm curious if there's something opp his Venus, for instance and other things...so Juno, Vesta, Pallas, Ceres, Pholus, Eros, Psyche, Amor, Valentine, Lust, Cupido, Alma, Priapus, Lilith.

posted September 22, 2014 12:19 PM            

Moon/Amor
his Lilith in your 1st square your Moon opp his Cupido on your DSC
Juno/Valentine DW
Cupido/Neptune
his Eros/Amor squaring your Venus/Ceres
your Sun/Mercury in his 8th (he has 2nd in Scorpio) makes for a strong intimate attraction
Venus/Lust, Eros trine Sun
etc

The T-square in the comp is actually a Cardinal cross with Chiron. Has your relationship anything to do with the 9th house, as it seems?

posted September 22, 2014 05:47 PM            

There are several house related indications that you are his type, and that he is yours, as well.

When evaluating a synastry these are the things I take into consideration.

First and foremost I look at...

The 5th house (Romantic Sparks and admiration, being 'blown away' by someone)

The 7th house (Affection and liking, having one's soft spot touched)

The 8th house (deep emotional bonding and physical attraction, like being curious about what's going on inside someone and being magnetized by them)

The symbolism of these houses shows our ‘type’ in these different relationship areas. If the themes in our chart matches the themes of one of these houses in our partners chart we are their type in this way.

If we put planets in these houses, or aspect the rulers of these houses, in someone else's natal chart we can stimulate the above type feelings within them.

From his side of things...

He has Aquarius on the 5th house cusp, with most of the sign Pisces also sitting in the 5th. Your Saturn in Aquarius, and Moon in early Pisces, fall into his 5th house of romantic sparks.

He has an Aries Dsc ruled by Mars in Sagittarius in the 2nd house. You have Venus in Aries (it's in his 6th house but still a match to his Dsc by sign). It might also be significant that Venus in Aries is the ruler of your Taurus Sun/Mercury. His 7th house ruler in the 2nd house also resonates with your Taurus Sun/Mercury. Interestingly both of his 5th house rulers, Saturn and Uranus which co-rule Aquarius, are also in his 2nd house... Again this symbolically relates back to your Taurus planets.

He has Taurus on the 8th house cusp ruled by Venus in Pisces. Your Sun/Mercury in Taurus actually fall into his 8th house. And your Moon in the sign of Pisces resonates with his 8th house, as well as his 5th house, in terms of his taste.

Synastry wheels don't show aspects very clearly so this reading is very basic, showing how the two of you each match the others 5th, 7th, and 8th house attraction pattern symbolically.

Because Aquarius, Aries, and Taurus are on his 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, pay attention to how you aspect his Uranus and Saturn (the 5th house rulers), his Mars (his 7th house ruler), and his Venus (his 8th house ruler). Aspects to these planets in his chart from your chart (especially with tight orbs under 3 degrees) will generate much chemistry and attraction from his side.

From your side of things...

You have Virgo on the 5th house cusp ruled by Mercury in Taurus in the 12th house (just behind the Asc). The 12th house connection matches well with his Sun, Venus, and Mercury all in Pisces. Also, you have Jupiter in Libra in the 5th house. Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces, and I believe it co-rules Pisces along with Neptune. This could add to your attraction to his Pisces planets. It would also add to your attraction to his Sagittarius Saturn, Mars, and Uranus, because Jupiter is the sole ruler of Sagittarius.

You have Scorpio on the 7th house cusp with much of the sign Sagittarius falling into the 7th house, and his above mentioned Sagittarius planets fall directly into your 7th house. Scorpio is co-ruled by Pluto in Scorpio, and Mars in Leo in your chart. He has Jupiter, Sun, and Venus in his natal chart all in his 5th house. That gives him a bit of a Leo-ish vibe, matching the energy of your Mars symbolically.

You have Sagittarius on the 8th house cusp, ruled by Jupiter in Libra. He has Moon in Libra, and again, planets in Sagittarius. This is a symbolic match to the energy of this house for you, even if only his Neptune falls into your 8th house.

In your case, Mercury, Pluto and Mars, and Jupiter, rule your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses respectively. His chart aspecting these planets (especially with tight orbs under 3 degrees) will generate a lot of chemistry from your side, so pay attention to these aspects.

Aspects to the 5th, 7th and 8th house rulers in synastry generate a lot of attraction, the flavor of which relates to the house in question.

posted September 22, 2014 06:23 PM            

VERTEX conjunct ASCENDANT is a very powerful tie, to be sure. I have it with my Twin. There's a definite sense of fate involved in the mix.

I'd like to wish you the best of luck in any case, even if it turns out to be more of an extremely valuable experience. I'd say, just from my own experience, that being so young, it's easy to get caught up in things -- especially when it's your first relationship. My advice may seem contrary, but it's the only way I personally ever really got anywhere in something.

Go into it with the knowledge it's going to end.

We exist in a world where we place such high demands on our relationships -- especially until we have a few under our belt. It's gotta be The One, or we can't fathom why we're even bothering. This is such a horrible way to conduct ourselves, and yet, it's become the sad norm. I didn't have my first sexual relationship until I was 22. That was by choice; but I'd say my own journey began at 16; and what a journey it's been! (I'm 33 now.)

By going into it with the full understanding that it would end, you allow yourself to not become codependent, as well as ask what the important lessons are that you're learning together. There's a HUGE amount of pressure taken off of the relationship for it to meet the often ridiculous demands upon which we place them.

There's another thing here, as a therapist, which gives me pause -- astrology aside. (And, hey, lightning does strike -- but on very rare occasion. Matches made like this are so uncommon to the point of being statistically inviable. So, it's not a bad approach to consider.)

You haven't even been together for a year; you're extremely young, and he's just now entering the territory of his first Saturn Return. He MAY change. A LOT. We're going to hope it'll bring you closer together rather than pose distance -- but either could happen. What's important is to remember that he's growing closer to his destiny. And, don't forget the possibility that you COULD marry each other -- but not for many years. Say, once you've cleared your own Saturn Return.

Maybe you've got the sort of connexion and astrological linkages which make you that rare couple that loses touch completely for years and suddenly finds themselves back in each other's lives. This almost ALWAYS happens when one (usually the woman) is between 28 and 30 -- and he's older than 30. Miraculously, you can even find that they reconnected JUST as her Saturn Return was ending.

So there are pragmatic reasons for enjoying it while it lasts and not fearing doom and gloom when it inevitably ends. (And, if it's your first -- oooh, man. Is it rough. But, believe it or not, we all get through it. We may wonder HOW we DID that! But we get through it.)

From age 21 until 30, the outer planets move in such a way that helps us grow and develop, it's hard not to feel some great force, some powerful element of design. You won't recognise yourself at 30. Your 21-year-old self will be a far cry from the woman you've become. That's just life. While I'm not saying your values will dramatically change, but you certainly will: your tastes, life direction, maybe even career. It's amazing how much we find ourselves in that decade. Our twenties are just ... wow. It's all about self-discovery and leaving adolescence behind.

On the other hand, we'd like to think a man knows what he wants by 27 .... Nope! Not a clue. He knows what his child-self and adolescent-ego wants -- but until he's crossed the threshold of 35, it's all guesswork. Oh, sure, there are the odd ones who mature WAY ahead of their time, but they are so, so very rare. 30 is your absolute cut-off, since you at LEAST have the first Saturn Return working for you.

The changes a man goes through in his first Saturn Return ... WOW. Just remember: you're going to see him deal with the entirety of not only his soul's karma, but the actions of his life up to that point. It could be very good, or very bad. For most of us, the Saturn Return brings CHANGE. Not like Uranian change, though, or Plutonian upheaval. Saturnine change has been subtly shifting since we first opened our eyes and greeted the world. Like a clock, counting down to the first one.

I tell you all of this NOW so that you'll be prepared, and not surprised, or shocked, or bewildered. Because you just never know; you can never tell how that's going to all sort out when it's over. One thing's for sure -- your life is on a whole new course.

So, if he's proposing to you within the first year of a relationship, especially with someone so inexperienced, I'd like to be the voice of reason and advise NOT to get too crazy.

What is now is not likely to continue. The shifts may be subtle, or they may be great. It's best to ride the waves rather than fight them. To me, it seems that yours is a definitely destined relationship, that's very likely before its time. You both have growing -- and changing -- to do, before putting down roots and making commitments.

Because MARRIAGE? Ohhh, sweetie. It's one of those things that's NOTHING like you think it is. In some ways, it's vastly greater than you could have imagined -- but only if you have the maturity to appreciate it. I married at 30. RIGHT off my Saturn Return. To me, I was young. I wish I'd waited, but then, all went exactly as it was meant to.

I don't think I've really stopped 'changing', as a result of my Saturn Return, until just this year. Honestly? It's still going. I deconstructed and am now rebuilding -- and I'm NOTHING like I used to be. This is a good thing.

So, that's the truth, and the reality, and a bit of friendly advice from a war veteran. Love is a battlefield. Oh, I've got scars. We've all got our war wounds.

But the best advice I ever gave myself was to transform my cynical view into a realistic approach. And thus the understanding that those relationships (especially the first few) were going to end, and I wasn't intending to saddle them with any more than they were able to handle.

Now I love (as best as I'm able) openly and without condition. I'm secure in my sense of self, even though I still wrestle with vulnerability. I accept relationships for what they are, and try and understand their organic place in my life, rather than force them into this or that slot. And, above all, I REALLY love myself.

Do you REALLY love yourself? If you do -- congratulations! You're WAY ahead of the game of most people.

But if you can't honestly answer that question without thinking, 'well, HE loves me, and so ... ' then that's the wrong answer, sweetheart. AND if that's the answer right now -- that's okay! Our first relationships are SUPPOSED to teach us about love, and what it feels like -- to love someone and be loved in return. And, if it helps us to better love ourselves -- independently -- then we're conducting them in an optimal fashion.

posted September 23, 2014 06:33 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The T-square in the comp is actually a Cardinal cross with Chiron. Has your relationship anything to do with the 9th house, as it seems?

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Hey LeeLoo2014, thanks for the feedback

posted September 23, 2014 06:36 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi Alabaster437

There are several house related indications that you are his type, and that he is yours, as well.

When evaluating a synastry these are the things I take into consideration.

First and foremost I look at...

The 5th house (Romantic Sparks and admiration, being 'blown away' by someone)

The 7th house (Affection and liking, having one's soft spot touched)

The 8th house (deep emotional bonding and physical attraction, like being curious about what's going on inside someone and being magnetized by them)

The symbolism of these houses shows our ‘type’ in these different relationship areas. If the themes in our chart matches the themes of one of these houses in our partners chart we are their type in this way.

If we put planets in these houses, or aspect the rulers of these houses, in someone else's natal chart we can stimulate the above type feelings within them.

From his side of things...

He has Aquarius on the 5th house cusp, with most of the sign Pisces also sitting in the 5th. Your Saturn in Aquarius, and Moon in early Pisces, fall into his 5th house of romantic sparks.

He has an Aries Dsc ruled by Mars in Sagittarius in the 2nd house. You have Venus in Aries (it's in his 6th house but still a match to his Dsc by sign). It might also be significant that Venus in Aries is the ruler of your Taurus Sun/Mercury. His 7th house ruler in the 2nd house also resonates with your Taurus Sun/Mercury. Interestingly both of his 5th house rulers, Saturn and Uranus which co-rule Aquarius, are also in his 2nd house... Again this symbolically relates back to your Taurus planets.

He has Taurus on the 8th house cusp ruled by Venus in Pisces. Your Sun/Mercury in Taurus actually fall into his 8th house. And your Moon in the sign of Pisces resonates with his 8th house, as well as his 5th house, in terms of his taste.

Synastry wheels don't show aspects very clearly so this reading is very basic, showing how the two of you each match the others 5th, 7th, and 8th house attraction pattern symbolically.

Because Aquarius, Aries, and Taurus are on his 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, pay attention to how you aspect his Uranus and Saturn (the 5th house rulers), his Mars (his 7th house ruler), and his Venus (his 8th house ruler). Aspects to these planets in his chart from your chart (especially with tight orbs under 3 degrees) will generate much chemistry and attraction from his side.

From your side of things...

You have Virgo on the 5th house cusp ruled by Mercury in Taurus in the 12th house (just behind the Asc). The 12th house connection matches well with his Sun, Venus, and Mercury all in Pisces. Also, you have Jupiter in Libra in the 5th house. Jupiter is the ancient ruler of Pisces, and I believe it co-rules Pisces along with Neptune. This could add to your attraction to his Pisces planets. It would also add to your attraction to his Sagittarius Saturn, Mars, and Uranus, because Jupiter is the sole ruler of Sagittarius.

You have Scorpio on the 7th house cusp with much of the sign Sagittarius falling into the 7th house, and his above mentioned Sagittarius planets fall directly into your 7th house. Scorpio is co-ruled by Pluto in Scorpio, and Mars in Leo in your chart. He has Jupiter, Sun, and Venus in his natal chart all in his 5th house. That gives him a bit of a Leo-ish vibe, matching the energy of your Mars symbolically.

You have Sagittarius on the 8th house cusp, ruled by Jupiter in Libra. He has Moon in Libra, and again, planets in Sagittarius. This is a symbolic match to the energy of this house for you, even if only his Neptune falls into your 8th house.

In your case, Mercury, Pluto and Mars, and Jupiter, rule your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses respectively. His chart aspecting these planets (especially with tight orbs under 3 degrees) will generate a lot of chemistry from your side, so pay attention to these aspects.

Aspects to the 5th, 7th and 8th house rulers in synastry generate a lot of attraction, the flavor of which relates to the house in question.

And yes, his Moon conjunct your Vertex is significant. Vertex aspects add a feeling of 'fatedness' and synchronicity to a relationship. Like it's uncanny how he can fit what you need/are looking for in certain ways.

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posted September 23, 2014 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Alabaster,

VERTEX conjunct ASCENDANT is a very powerful tie, to be sure. I have it with my Twin. There's a definite sense of fate involved in the mix.

I'd like to wish you the best of luck in any case, even if it turns out to be more of an extremely valuable experience. I'd say, just from my own experience, that being so young, it's easy to get caught up in things -- especially when it's your first relationship. My advice may seem contrary, but it's the only way I personally ever really got anywhere in something.

Go into it with the knowledge it's going to end.

We exist in a world where we place such high demands on our relationships -- especially until we have a few under our belt. It's gotta be The One, or we can't fathom why we're even bothering. This is such a horrible way to conduct ourselves, and yet, it's become the sad norm. I didn't have my first sexual relationship until I was 22. That was by choice; but I'd say my own journey began at 16; and what a journey it's been! (I'm 33 now.)

By going into it with the full understanding that it would end, you allow yourself to not become codependent, as well as ask what the important lessons are that you're learning together. There's a HUGE amount of pressure taken off of the relationship for it to meet the often ridiculous demands upon which we place them.

There's another thing here, as a therapist, which gives me pause -- astrology aside. (And, hey, lightning does strike -- but on very rare occasion. Matches made like this are so uncommon to the point of being statistically inviable. So, it's not a bad approach to consider.)

You haven't even been together for a year; you're extremely young, and he's just now entering the territory of his first Saturn Return. He MAY change. A LOT. We're going to hope it'll bring you closer together rather than pose distance -- but either could happen. What's important is to remember that he's growing closer to his destiny. And, don't forget the possibility that you COULD marry each other -- but not for many years. Say, once you've cleared your own Saturn Return.

Maybe you've got the sort of connexion and astrological linkages which make you that rare couple that loses touch completely for years and suddenly finds themselves back in each other's lives. This almost ALWAYS happens when one (usually the woman) is between 28 and 30 -- and he's older than 30. Miraculously, you can even find that they reconnected JUST as her Saturn Return was ending.

So there are pragmatic reasons for enjoying it while it lasts and not fearing doom and gloom when it inevitably ends. (And, if it's your first -- oooh, man. Is it rough. But, believe it or not, we all get through it. We may wonder HOW we DID that! But we get through it.)

From age 21 until 30, the outer planets move in such a way that helps us grow and develop, it's hard not to feel some great force, some powerful element of design. You won't recognise yourself at 30. Your 21-year-old self will be a far cry from the woman you've become. That's just life. While I'm not saying your values will dramatically change, but you certainly will: your tastes, life direction, maybe even career. It's amazing how much we find ourselves in that decade. Our twenties are just ... wow. It's all about self-discovery and leaving adolescence behind.

On the other hand, we'd like to think a man knows what he wants by 27 .... Nope! Not a clue. He knows what his child-self and adolescent-ego wants -- but until he's crossed the threshold of 35, it's all guesswork. Oh, sure, there are the odd ones who mature WAY ahead of their time, but they are so, so very rare. 30 is your absolute cut-off, since you at LEAST have the first Saturn Return working for you.

The changes a man goes through in his first Saturn Return ... WOW. Just remember: you're going to see him deal with the entirety of not only his soul's karma, but the actions of his life up to that point. It could be very good, or very bad. For most of us, the Saturn Return brings CHANGE. Not like Uranian change, though, or Plutonian upheaval. Saturnine change has been subtly shifting since we first opened our eyes and greeted the world. Like a clock, counting down to the first one.

I tell you all of this NOW so that you'll be prepared, and not surprised, or shocked, or bewildered. Because you just never know; you can never tell how that's going to all sort out when it's over. One thing's for sure -- your life is on a whole new course.

So, if he's proposing to you within the first year of a relationship, especially with someone so inexperienced, I'd like to be the voice of reason and advise NOT to get too crazy.

What is now is not likely to continue. The shifts may be subtle, or they may be great. It's best to ride the waves rather than fight them. To me, it seems that yours is a definitely destined relationship, that's very likely before its time. You both have growing -- and changing -- to do, before putting down roots and making commitments.

Because MARRIAGE? Ohhh, sweetie. It's one of those things that's NOTHING like you think it is. In some ways, it's vastly greater than you could have imagined -- but only if you have the maturity to appreciate it. I married at 30. RIGHT off my Saturn Return. To me, I was young. I wish I'd waited, but then, all went exactly as it was meant to.

I don't think I've really stopped 'changing', as a result of my Saturn Return, until just this year. Honestly? It's still going. I deconstructed and am now rebuilding -- and I'm NOTHING like I used to be. This is a good thing.

So, that's the truth, and the reality, and a bit of friendly advice from a war veteran. Love is a battlefield. Oh, I've got scars. We've all got our war wounds.

But the best advice I ever gave myself was to transform my cynical view into a realistic approach. And thus the understanding that those relationships (especially the first few) were going to end, and I wasn't intending to saddle them with any more than they were able to handle.

Now I love (as best as I'm able) openly and without condition. I'm secure in my sense of self, even though I still wrestle with vulnerability. I accept relationships for what they are, and try and understand their organic place in my life, rather than force them into this or that slot. And, above all, I REALLY love myself.

Do you REALLY love yourself? If you do -- congratulations! You're WAY ahead of the game of most people.

But if you can't honestly answer that question without thinking, 'well, HE loves me, and so ... ' then that's the wrong answer, sweetheart. AND if that's the answer right now -- that's okay! Our first relationships are SUPPOSED to teach us about love, and what it feels like -- to love someone and be loved in return. And, if it helps us to better love ourselves -- independently -- then we're conducting them in an optimal fashion.

Nonetheless, best of luck.

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Aubyanne, thanks for the advice. I will keep it in mind.

Just the other day, I was feeling a little doubtful (about myself, I want to make sure that he is sure about marrying me) and we talked about how fast this relationship is going. And we did get to a sort of resolution to just enjoy what we have now. Of course, the intention to get married is still there because we do love each other very much. And, as I said before, everything just feels right.

posted September 23, 2014 06:55 PM            

I'm not sure the best advice to give you in this regard. I'm certainly under the gun myself, with tURA crossing my cDSC in a couple of years as well. The best approach to take is to let whatever's gotta change, change, and to be honest with yourselves.

Especially important, as it'll be squaring your cCHIRON in the 12H, which is opposite URA, NEP, and SATURN; your composite CAP stellium, in other words.

posted September 23, 2014 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Alabaster437:
Aubyanne, thanks for the advice. I will keep it in mind.

Just the other day, I was feeling a little doubtful (about myself, I want to make sure that he is sure about marrying me) and we talked about how fast this relationship is going. And we did get to a sort of resolution to just enjoy what we have now. Of course, the intention to get married is still there because we do love each other very much. And, as I said before, everything just feels right.

I will try to keep my head straight though lol. Thanks for your insight

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posted September 24, 2014 05:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Alabaster437:
Hey LeeLoo2014, thanks for the feedback

We met in church, so I suppose that could tie into the ninth house. What do you think?

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Hahaha absolutely! That's cool

Both your charts are good, enjoy them, the two of you!