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Topic: Haunting karmic relationship. Please help.
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Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 09:53 PM
I will try to keep this short. I met a guy about a year ago, and our meeting was full of synchronicity and the energy was so incredible. Didn't even pay attention to his physical because I was convinced I was gay at the time. About a week later, he invited me over to play music with him and as soon as we locked eyes, all I could think was that we've been involved in past lives. It scared the living **** out of me. There was lots of chemistry and he admitted attraction to me but he cut things off before they got further because he said he just wanted to make music together and be friends. I, however, just tried to hide how I felt, hoping it would dissipate. Of course, it only got worse. And I eventually moved on (physically) to dating someone else but I've thought about him every single day since meeting him. I feel that we have a lot of unfinished business but now because of unforeseen circumstances he has stopped talking to me.I can't help but feel that there was something really powerful there between us but I also have a venus square neptune in my natal chart so maybe it was just me. Any insights on this would be much appreciated. Thank you. Here's our synastry with my limited info on him. He's on the left. chiron opposite pluto lilith opposite moon pluto opposite moon uranus opposite jupiter pluto opposite mercury jupiter opposite sun pluto opposite venus saturn opposite sun pluto opposite sun jupiter opposite venus saturn opposite mc saturn opposite venus neptune opposite mars venus square moon jupiter square neptune saturn square neptune node square pluto jupiter square saturn sun square pluto saturn square saturn saturn square uranus jupiter square uranus venus square mercury pluto square as chiron trine saturn chiron trine neptune neptune trine moon uranus trine mc neptune trine mercury sun trine mars saturn trine jupiter jupiter trine jupiter jupiter trines mars node trine sun sun trine jupiter mars sextile moon mercury sextile moon node inconjunction neptune mercury semisquare saturn uranus semisquare saturn
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2459 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 16, 2014 10:09 PM
Hello and welcome,Could you please post an image of your synastry chart. It tells you how to here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2456720.99&End=2458545&Session= IP: Logged |
scropiojunkie85 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: Philly Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 16, 2014 10:11 PM
Sounds like the Saturn/Neptune nightmare. I've had two of these and I'm always the Neptune person 😔... Geez I must have been terrible in my past lives lol http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 10:42 PM
Here it is. Although birth time is not correct for him.[IMG]http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah79/amelie5471/Astrotheme_HE8xjmJHZ5Z W_zps9d19d391.png[/IMG] IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 10:44 PM
@ scropiojunkie85 Yeah, I've read that site a few times now. You've had two of these kind of relationships?? Dear lord. I can barely handle one. How did you get over them? IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2459 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 16, 2014 10:53 PM
The type of chart needed is the one given in 'Extended Chart selection". That shows aspects more clearly and how close the orbs are.The path to Extended Chart Selection is like this: Free Horoscopes -- Horoscope Drawing and Calculations - Extended Chart Selection. After you've saved in Photobucket, edit (crop) it to show just the image. Then copy the image link here. Only keep the text between the 'IMG' .That should show the image rather than show the link. Like i did here. Hope this helps now. One always needs to try this out by slow degrees . IP: Logged |
scropiojunkie85 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: Philly Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 16, 2014 10:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Shespeaks1: @ scropiojunkie85 Yeah, I've read that site a few times now. You've had two of these kind of relationships?? Dear lord. I can barely handle one. How did you get over them?
hahaha I haven't... the first one left me totally handicap and the second one, i'm currently in Saturn/Neptune conjunction under 2 degrees. Oh an did I mention my neptune is in the 8th house? It's haunting. If I didn't hear from them I just assumed something terrible had happened to them and it was the most irrational fear. I'm still digesting. This current one I'm in is actually more "potent" than the last in terms of that conjunction. The last one was full of saturn squares, oppositions and conjunctions on both ends. It was a nightmare. If you find anything else, let me know! I need all the help I can get too... IP: Logged |
scropiojunkie85 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: Philly Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 16, 2014 11:01 PM
Are you the inside or outside person in that chart. I'm an aquarius too... that venus sits nicely on my mercury and jupiter. lol and we have similar first names. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 11:04 PM
Hahaha. Man, it is painfully obvious that I'm new here huh? Thanks for the help! Appreciate it. Hopefully I get it right this time. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 11:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by scropiojunkie85: Are you the inside or outside person in that chart. I'm an aquarius too... that venus sits nicely on my mercury and jupiter. lol and we have similar first names.
Neptune in the 8th? Yikes. Sounds intense. So did you have saturn square neptune in both relationships or oppositions too? Seems like oppositions are more intense than squares.
I'm actually on the inside. Aries represent. lol. IP: Logged |
scropiojunkie85 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: Philly Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 17, 2014 12:17 AM
Haha square the first time, conjunction this time. I hope he doesn't run! Lol I wanna fix it. I'm really like, well maybe if I pretend it's not this intense he'll be ok. But honestly I'm petrified. Lol. He's just really great. Amazingly talented. I swear he's like a lullaby. I put up our charts in another feed. You should check it out and tell me what you think! 😃Ps: haha and I'm more like your guy! My natal is posted too, you might laugh. IP: Logged |
sunflower-moon Knowflake Posts: 214 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted September 17, 2014 12:26 AM
It's hard to say since you don't know his time of birth. His moon is completely unaspected and that's not good. Of course, if he were born at a later time his moon could aspect your Aries planets - so I just don't know! Plus house overlays would play into it quite a bit. I can see why you were enamored with him as his Moon is probably in your 5th, his Venus in your 7th, and his Sun, Mars, and Mercury in your 8th. I'm not an expert so hopefully someone could give you some better info, but as for him feeling the same way with you I'd expect Moon aspects and significant house overlays & we just can't tell what's occurring without a birth time. You should add in some asteroids.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 01:08 AM
Oh, boy is this a familiar song-and-dance.Welcome to the haunted-by-karma club, my dear. I am a charter member. The dues are a --- well, less than wonderful, we'll say. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 03:54 AM
Sometimes it helps to have a comparison. That's my intense, heavy, haunting synastry with my Soulmate / Karmic Partner with whom I have some very dark, outstanding karmic debts and powerful soul contracts. I'll gladly show you what indicates this, as there are several patterns, configurations and aspects; certain things we look at to understand what's going on. In our case, we've been former lovers, rivals, and just about anything under the sun that tests resolve and creates potent challenges to overcome. Now we're destined for a lifetime relationship as partners of some kind -- as we've tackled everything from creative projects to sex research together -- that's not surprising. We're better and more formidable as a team than apart. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll give you the 101. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 04:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Shespeaks1:
chiron opposite pluto lilith opposite moon pluto opposite moon pluto opposite venus saturn opposite sun pluto opposite sun saturn opposite mc saturn opposite venus saturn square neptune* node square pluto saturn square saturn
The above MIGHT be karmic aspects. SATURN square NEPTUNE is most definitely; one of the 'star-crossed lovers' aspects. PLUTO in hard aspect to VENUS can really kick, too. As well as when it's opposite the MOON in synastry. Orbs matter, too. I prefer the tighter -- around 3°, but I'll expand to 6° in the case of most planets, and 9° at maximum. You also ought to investigate KARMA (3811) and DESTINN (6583). ALMA (390) can be very illuminating, too. Then look at Soulmate pairings, such as EROS (433) and PSYCHE (16) including ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923). IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 04:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by scropiojunkie85: hahaha I haven't... the first one left me totally handicap and the second one, i'm currently in Saturn/Neptune conjunction under 2 degrees. Oh an did I mention my neptune is in the 8th house? It's haunting. If I didn't hear from them I just assumed something terrible had happened to them and it was the most irrational fear. I'm still digesting. This current one I'm in is actually more "potent" than the last in terms of that conjunction. The last one was full of saturn squares, oppositions and conjunctions on both ends. It was a nightmare.If you find anything else, let me know! I need all the help I can get too...
I married a 3° SATURN opposition to my NEPTUNE. I must be insane. My Twin's NEPTUNE squares my SATURN, 1°, naturally. Heh. My Guardian Soulmate (with whom I have the above synastry) and I have enough, fortunately, without that particular aspect. Our SATURNs are paralell, but there's no NEPTUNE/SATURN there. I'm hardly complaining! As I said, we've got more than enough with which to contend without tossing that in. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 08:22 PM
@sunflower-moon I really wish I had this dude's birth time, it would make things a lot easier to understand. Unfortunately, there's no way to go about getting that info without being creepy. Lol.Here's the updated chart with asteroids. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 08:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Sometimes it helps to have a comparison. That's my intense, heavy, haunting synastry with my Soulmate / Karmic Partner with whom I have some very dark, outstanding karmic debts and powerful soul contracts. I'll gladly show you what indicates this, as there are several patterns, configurations and aspects; certain things we look at to understand what's going on. In our case, we've been former lovers, rivals, and just about anything under the sun that tests resolve and creates potent challenges to overcome. Now we're destined for a lifetime relationship as partners of some kind -- as we've tackled everything from creative projects to sex research together -- that's not surprising. We're better and more formidable as a team than apart. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll give you the 101.
Definitely super interested to learn all that I can about these types of relationships. Forgive me for not having much to say about your relationship, for I'm definitely still a newbie at this. Would love to learn about asteroids and how those play into this.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 09:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Shespeaks1: Definitely super interested to learn all that I can about these types of relationships. Forgive me for not having much to say about your relationship, for I'm definitely still a newbie at this. Would love to learn about asteroids and how those play into this.
No worries at all! And, bizarrely perfect timing. For the first time -- ever -- I opened up the discussion into the larger story here. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 10:13 PM
So that's his NESSUS on your ASC? Just checking, since you don't have his TOB. NESSUS is actually quite known for being sexually obsessive. I'm wondering if it goes both ways. But on someone's ASC -- whew, boy. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: So that's his NESSUS on your ASC? Just checking, since you don't have his TOB. NESSUS is actually quite known for being sexually obsessive. I'm wondering if it goes both ways. But on someone's ASC -- whew, boy.
Oh god, haha, what does that mean? That is his nessus btw.
Gonna go check out your link now.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 18, 2014 12:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Shespeaks1: Oh god, haha, what does that mean? That is his nessus btw. Gonna go check out your link now.
Well, I won't confuse the matter, given you're a newbie. But the gist of NESSUS is that it's definitely an obsessive influence. Well, he CAN be. But we're not seeing that from his end, so ... curious. IP: Logged |
Shespeaks1 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 18, 2014 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Well, I won't confuse the matter, given you're a newbie. But the gist of NESSUS is that it's definitely an obsessive influence. Well, he CAN be. But we're not seeing that from his end, so ... curious.
I definitely get that Nessus isn't a very good thing. Lol. I've been reading about it but it seems hard to find info online about it in synastry. Weird about the obsession part, cause Im the obsessed one not him. Or at least if that's how he is, he hides it well. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 305 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 19, 2014 01:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Shespeaks1: I definitely get that Nessus isn't a very good thing. Lol. I've been reading about it but it seems hard to find info online about it in synastry. Weird about the obsession part, cause Im the obsessed one not him. Or at least if that's how he is, he hides it well.
I've been doing more research on the matter. When it's angular, or aspecting an angle, I think it can be a toss up. For example, if a point isn't even expressing its energy, it COULD be activated by that point. Or it might be channelled by the other individual. We could also read this as, 'the Ascendant activates Nessus themes in the native's life.' Vertex, for instance, tends to colour the association by whatever point it touches -- expressed by VERTEX. Goofy, no? So, perhaps the ASC can do this, too. I'd never quite thought of it in those terms, but why not? Perhaps the ASC is keyed into NESSUS, and begins expressing its obsessive themes. There's also the potential it's being expressed in a different fashion, or is stifled natally. IP: Logged |