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Topic: Progressed Synastry Aspects, your experiences?
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Got Gemini?? Knowflake Posts: 912 From: The Planet Mercury Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 16, 2012 12:11 AM
Anyone have any experience with Progressed Moon conjunct Progressed Venus (1.5˚ in synastry? Would the interp be the same as a natal Venus conjunct Moon?What are your experiences with other progressed aspects? ------------------ Gemini Sun Libra Moon Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus Virgo Mars Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9672 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 04:23 AM
I have that in my relationship right now, I'm the p.Moon 1 deg applying conj to his p.Venus. The only thing is, p.Moon moves fairly quickly. But we also have my sa.Moon conj his sa.Venus, 17 minutes. His sa.Mercury is conj my sa.Venus, 22 minutes. My p.Merc is conj his p.Merc. Also his p.Asc is applying 2 deg opp to my n.Asc, his p.Moon is gonna be conj my H7 ruler in a few mos, then it'll move on to my natal Vertex. His sa.Moon is conj my n.Vertex His p.Vertex is opp my n.Sun, etc.Anyway no I wouldn't say it's exactly the same as natal synastry but it can give that temporary feeling of it as long as it's in orb, depending on sign and where it falls in your respective houses. Have you heard of Paul Westran? He posted on LL to comment on his theory/research, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207655.html IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?? Knowflake Posts: 912 From: The Planet Mercury Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 16, 2012 05:23 AM
Thanks Lonake, I've never heard of him but I'll check the thread now. Our progressed planets are in Capricorn. 5th house for me, don't know her birth time (her mom said she was born at night, that's all I have to go by but I still use 12pm.)------------------ Gemini Sun Libra Moon Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus Virgo Mars Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15453 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 06:20 AM
If you never heard of Paul Westran, you really should look into this. Actually it was his book that restored my faith in astrology. lol Anyway yes the progressed aspect would be interpreted the same as a natal under the consideration that it is only valid for a certain timeframe (and that of course underneath it all there is still the basic synastry at play).
If you are interested check out his website http://www.positiveastrology.com/articles/log-000.asp
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15453 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 06:39 AM
Lonake,are you considering SA for synastry? I`ve never seen it done by anyone else, (except in cosmobiology), but have found some very interesting aspects in SA synastry at important points in a connection. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1974 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 07:07 AM
quote: Anyway yes the progressed aspect would be interpreted the same as a natal under the consideration that it is only valid for a certain timeframe
I agree with this. Ceridwen, Whats your opinion on someone with nVenus oppose pSaturn but pVenus free and clear? Is this individual doomed to romantic frustration all around? Or, will they experience blockage with those aspecting nVenus, and smooth sailing with those aspecting pVenus? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1974 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 07:12 AM
quote: Anyone have any experience with Progressed Moon conjunct Progressed Venus
The Cookbook says; Progressed Venus to natal Moon: This progression brings about a loving relationship which is often characterized by feelings of dependency, mutual support, and emotional development. The conjunction, sextile, and trine bring generally pleasing, supportive contacts, while the square and opposition often bring resistance and adjustments in regards to the direction of your relationship. The same goes for progressed Moon to Venus contacts.
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9672 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 12:32 PM
Ceri, I do. I mainly focus on the conj; have you looked at other aspects? Anyway it's something to consider. I mean, there are those that don't think it's valid to compare natals to composites because composites are the midpoint mark between two individuals, so how can you compare your natal to some imaginary point or some such. To me that argument is analogous to the argument against using progressions in synastry, and extending that argument, directions. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15453 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 12:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Ceridwen, Whats your opinion on someone with nVenus oppose pSaturn but pVenus free and clear? Is this individual doomed to romantic frustration all around? Or, will they experience blockage with those aspecting nVenus, and smooth sailing with those aspecting pVenus?
The n Venus opposite p Saturn will definitely be important in terms of personal development. It depends a little in which houses it falls and which houses Venus and Saturn rule. But generally speaking relationships or other Venusian things might be taken more serious than usually. That could mean a certain blockage in that regard, even unrequited feelings, or it could simply mean that comitment plays a bigger role than usual.
This has more to do with the current phase the individual goes through than a particular relationship. However of course this mindset or phase of course will influence existing relationships as well. I think though that probably relationships with those aspecting the p Venus might be easier at the time, unless the person really wants it a little bit more difficult and heavy, maybe even karmic, as Saturn to n Venus would suggest.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15453 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Ceri, I do. I mainly focus on the conj; have you looked at other aspects? Anyway it's something to consider. I mean, there are those that don't think it's valid to compare natals to composites because composites are the midpoint mark between two individuals, so how can you compare your natal to some imaginary point or some such. To me that argument is analogous to the argument against using progressions in synastry, and extending that argument, directions.
I`m never sure which aspects to use in solar arc synastry. Since in a single chart we check for the dynamic aspects, probably it makes most sense to check for conjunction, opposition and square with Solar ARc.
I also compare composites to natals; I find these very revealing, esp. in terms of conjunctions and the composite activating natal configurations. But I am sometimes also checking for mdipoints in natal charts or in synastry.
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Nine Moderator Posts: 1974 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 01:17 PM
quote: This has more to do with the current phase the individual goes through than a particular relationship. However of course this mindset or phase of course will influence existing relationships as well.
I see. The person in question is 20-something. pSaturn oppose nVenus will last until about sixty years old. So what your saying is relationships in aspect to pVenus will be easier, but since nVenus is "under siege" by pSaturn, such relationships must/will have a Saturian flavor; committed, serious, someone older, someone younger, responsible... Interesting. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 1740 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 27, 2014 05:27 PM
Bumping this too for IA. ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 44914 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2014 06:51 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1974 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2014 07:16 PM
The person I referenced in the last post is engaged to be married. Of course it has been two years since I've been interested in their chart.IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 371 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 08:40 PM
How do I check progressed synastry? Does astro.com have this or do I need a program for it?IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1664 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2014 10:37 PM
^ astro.com has it. Just open the additional tables of the 'progressed composite' and you have both progressed charts on one page, easy. IP: Logged |