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Nine
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posted September 28, 2014 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Often, when men kill each other I expect to find a Sun-Mars aspect. Yes, Sun-Mars did feature prominently in this synastry, but someone else entered the picture. Venus - Goddess of Love.

Interesting, given that they were both Taurus (Venus ruled) and had a Venus-Venus conjunction in their pSynastry.

Where to start, where to start?

Darren Wilson has nVenus oppose nUranus. By progression his pSun was in applying conjunction to his nVenus and thus in opposition to his nUranus.

says Robert Hand of Venus opp Uranus:

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...it difficult for you to form close attachments with others, because you quickly begin to feel confined in a relationship, and you want to get away...

...sometimes you will attract a very unreliable person who leaves you suddenly, even though you think you don't want that. But inside, you secretly don't want to be tied down, so you unconsciously attract a person who is sure to leave you.


We're all familiar with the implications of pSun in aspect to Venus. What about Uranus?? Here again is Robert Hand on Sun to nUranus;

quote:
...all one-on-one encounters and close relationships will be occasion for surprising events [during this period]...

...the Uranian influence can enter your life through persons you do not know who present you with a surprise or upset. The general function of this transit is to show you that you have not fully considered certain elements of you interaction with the world. These elements are related to parts of yourself that you have not adequately expressed before.

...as with other Uranus-Sun contacts, if the energies involved are not allowed conscious expression, they may come out through accident-prone behavior.


Enters Michael Brown. Same as Darren Wilson he's also Taurus w/ Cancer moon.

Brown's nVenus is stationary retrograde @ 28 Gemini, by progression sits at 22 Gemini. Here, it conjuncts Wilson's nVenus (21 Gem) & pSun (19 Gem), and opposes his nUranus (21 Sag). Thus, Brown became the living embodiment of Wilson's nVenus. Key-to-Lock.

Sobering, I guess, to see Venus go out this way after making so many key harmonious contacts.

Michael Brown has nSun at 29 Taurus, nMars at 12 Taurus. In time by progression we should expect his pMars to conjunct his nSun. Around his birthday earlier this year, Brown's pMars stood at 26 Taurus conj his nSun.

says Robert Hand of Mars conj Sun;

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...this [influence] has tremendous potentials and definite risks. You will have to be careful in everything you do, because the high energy level...can have explosive consequences.

Your ego energies are high, which means that you can stand up for yourself against almost anyone...You have great confidence and will not easily allow someone to take advantage of you. Unfortunately this may also mean that you will get into fights and arguments...

...you should be especially careful in your dealings with [authority figures]. They will not expect you to be as assertive toward them as you are likely to be...


Enters Darren Wilson. True, Wilson's nSun sits at 23 Taurus, meaning that Brown's pMars (26 Taurus) has long separated/departed. If I were examining this synastry for long term potential I would disregard Wilson's nSun & Brown's pMars as an active conjunction. However, due to the brevity of the encounter I believe that aspect is/was very much alive.

Again, Brown has pMars conjunct nSun. Enters Darren Wilson with nSun conjunct Brown's pMars, essentially the embodiment of Brown's nSun. Or Brown's inner authority. Key-to-Lock!

Sobering once more to see the Sun getting the upperhand in a Sun-Mars encounter. Hardly exhaustive, but thus far in my research it has been Mars who usually came out on top.


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posted September 29, 2014 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting, Nine. Could you post the synastry?
I suppose any object transiting the Venus/Uranus opp may trigger it, but Venus or Uranus more than others, because they trigger the ACTUAL aspect - the energy of planet Venus is associated with the aspect in the chart and that energy in transit is very familiar, hence acting on an unconscious level.
It's a good example that there are no entirely "benefic" planets. Plus, Venus may intensify whatever feelings there are (like/dislike).
It's hard to tell without the whole synastry though, at least for me, how much violence was involved here.

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posted September 30, 2014 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Birth times are unknown, so dis regard that

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posted September 30, 2014 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Nine. Very impressive charts. It looks like another incident happening in the latency of the Cardinal Cross. DW has Moon opp Mars aside from Venus opp Uranus in his natal, and among other things, they have an exact Mercury/Mars conjunction, receiving a Sun/Merc/Saturn square and opposing Saturn that day, and Michael's natal Atropos (1) and with DW's Pluto involved

The multi-composite with the event is most impressive, Sun/Chiron opp Atropos exact on the nodal axis and a Yod putting Venus in a focal position, as you very well noticed.

Here are the charts:

DW with event (transits that day)

MB with event

Multi-comp

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posted September 30, 2014 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and the composite with transits:

Mars/Chiron exact coupled with Mars square Chiron
Uranus sq nodal axis
and Venus/NN Venus/Pholus
Pluto/Uranus Pluto/Saturn

Atropos conj Saturn exact opp Chiron, Pholus on NN
Geometry leading to Mars
Saturn/Atropos and Venus peregrine

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posted September 30, 2014 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also noticed they were both having Nodal Returns. MB was having his first NN return, DW was having his 2nd SN return. Their nodes are opposed across the Aries-Libra axis.

Wonder if the upcoming eclipse plays a part??

As I rule I always look for Sun-Mars aspects whenever men collide like this because these are the planets most closely related to the ego.

Interestingly, I recently discovered that the Sun & Mars are part of a synodic cycle where they oppose each other every two years. This year it happened days from the Lunar eclipse April 8th, - Sun in Aries, Mars in Libra. This was across the nodal axis of DW & MB.

Trying to piece this all together...

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posted October 01, 2014 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely interesting, the nodal returns: the completion of a cycle

What do you think an eclipse should bring, as an influence?

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posted October 01, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ my dad died during the exact degree of his 3rd nodal return (6 Libra).

That tantric story of mine recently? (with the pVenus/Asc), we had opp. Nodes (mine 14,5 Aqua - him 19 Leo) and the T-NN when we met and it all started was at 17,5 Aqua. Def. an erotic explosion between us. (his Mars 19 Scorp/ my Mars 19 Aqua)

BTW, interesting way of looking at the progressions.

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posted October 01, 2014 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do you think an eclipse should bring, as an influence?

As eclipses only happen at the Nodes, it follows that the Nodal Returns will coincide with eclipses hitting this axis. The influence, as you said, is the eclipsing out of one cycle (Lunar) and the eclipsing in on another cycle (Solar).

Plainly said, your Nodes are where ever eclipses were happening in the zodiac at time of birth.

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^ my dad died during the exact degree of his 3rd nodal return (6 Libra).

Wow. And Venus influence again. I wonder more and more about that planet at I get deeper into astrology.

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BTW, interesting way of looking at the progressions.

Thank you.

Of the two men, Michael Brown was the one with pSun & pMoon in the 4th Harmonic. So for sure we know he would be most affected.

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posted October 02, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm… Although not the appl. big biggies, Venus seems to figure prominently also here,

Travis Alexander & Jodi Arias (murder case/ love affair – she hit him)

He had a 4th harmonic aspect between his pMoon/nSun.

(4 june 2008)

JODI (she);

- Her pVenus 29’45 Gem ~ (her nVenus 16’10 Gem)
- Her pMars 15’31 Libra ~ (her nMars 29’14 Virgo)

(DW V/M ^^) – wowwwie.. I suddenly see ^ that her pVenus/nMars midpoint (at 14,30 LEO) is APPLYING conjunct to her pMars/nVenus midpoint (at 15’50 LEO) – how bizarrr…..!

- Her pSun/pMoon midpoint is applying conjunct by 0,5 to her natal Sun! (16-17 Cancer)

- (Her nSun/nMoon midpoint = 28’27 GEM - conjunct to his pMars and her pVenus)

(Her pSun 14 Leo)


TRAVIS (he);

- His pVenus 29’25 Cancer
- His pMars 27’35 Gem

This a bit at first sight but the impression I get until now is that SHE has some very heavy progressions.

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posted October 02, 2014 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember this case. Can't remember if I did a pSynastry for them. Perhaps I'll check see if they have any of my Key-to-Lock configurations.

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posted October 03, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another *VERY* striking thing;

Travis' pSun & pMoon in the declinations made a contra-parallel;

- pSun 9'47 N
- pMoon 9'12 S

(see ^ the distance is 0'35 - separating / Moon backwards)

But now look at THIS, his NATAL Sun & Moon in the declinations;

- Sun 18'16 N
- Moon 18'25 S

(^ distance also 0'35!! N/S - I haven't looked but it wouldn't surprise me that at birth it was ALSO separating)


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posted October 03, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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- Her pVenus 29’45 Gem ~

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- (Her nSun/nMoon midpoint = 28’27 GEM - conjunct to his pMars and her pVenus)

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- His pMars 27’35 Gem


I'm afraid that everything in our universe is connected as I have my current pMoon at 27'33 Gem

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posted October 03, 2014 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:

I'm afraid that everything in our universe is connected as I have my current pMoon at 27'33 Gem

It's like little files (Akasha) being accessed when you're ready for them, right??

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