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black_rose
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posted September 02, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for black_rose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Short Story

Ready? Go. Orpheus and Eurydice get married, but later that night, Eurydice is bit by a snake and dies. So far, so terrible. Overcome with grief, Orpheus travels to the Underworld to bring her back to life. He convinces Hades and Persephone to let Eurydice go, but her release comes with a catch: Eurydice must walk behind him as they ascend to the upper world, and Orpheus is forbidden from looking at her. Seems easy enough, right?

Unfortunately, Orpheus is overcome with passion just as they reach the exit. He turns to look at Eurydice and she is immediately sent back to the Underworld – forever. Orpheus is devastated (again) and roams around Greece playing sad songs. Eventually, he is ripped to shreds by a group of drunken mad women.


The Less Short Story

We start off with a pretty typical boy-meets-girl story. And after they meet, Orpheus (who's a famous musician) and Eurydice fall in love and get married. The end.
Oh wait.
Hymen, the god of marriage, is present at the wedding ceremony. He refuses to offer any words of encouragement or even crack a smile. We'd say this is a pretty bad sign for the future of the marriage.
After the wedding, Eurydice decides to get some fresh air. She takes a walk through a nearby meadow, dancing and laughing with her bridesmaids (the Naiads). Natch.
In some versions of the myth, the lustful shepherd Aristaeus (son of Apollo and Cyrene) surprises Eurydice. He's pretty hot for her, and he chases her along a nearby riverbank.
Desperate to avoid his sexual advances, Eurydice stops looking where she's going and stumbles across a poisonous viper. Uh oh.
Sure enough, the snake bites Eurydice's ankle and she dies. The end.
Nope, still not.
Orpheus is (obviously) overcome with grief at his wife's death. And just like any good musician, he expressed himself by singing the blues. Literally.
Fed up with his depression, Orpheus decides to take action. His plan? Travel to the Underworld and ask Hades to let Eurydice go. Seems straightforward enough.
As he enters the Underworld, Orpheus uses his music to charm the spirits and monsters who live there. Ever get serenaded by a cute guy with a stringed instrument? Hard to resist, right?
Even animals love him. Cerberus, the three-headed dog who guards the entrance, stands motionless and lets Orpheus pass. Everyone else is moved, too: the grotesque Furies weep, Sisyphus stops moving his rock, the vulture stops pecking at Tityus' liver, and the souls of the dead gather to hear him play. So yeah, guess he chose the right song.
In any case, Orpheus finds Hades and Persephone, the King and Queen of the Underworld. Now the convincing begins.
He makes a grand speech and plays his lyre to try to persuade these two to let Eurydice go. His strategy? He reminds Hades that he fell in love once, too (with Persephone). Also, since everyone dies eventually, they'll eventually get her (and his!) soul back anyway. So why not let Eurydice live for a few more years?
Orpheus' eloquent speech melts the hearts of Hades and Persephone. Surprise, surprise. And – success! – they agree to free Eurydice.
But there is a small catch. Hades says Eurydice must walk behind Orpheus as they travel back to the upper world – Orpheus is forbidden from looking back at Eurydice until they have exited the Underworld.
Doesn't seem too tough, right? Who doesn't love a little delayed gratification anyway?
So Orpheus agrees, and the couple begins their ascent.
Orpheus can hear Eurydice's footsteps behind him and before long, he can see the exit. He steps out of the cave and into the light. He made it!
But (yes, there's a but – we know you saw it coming) due either to excitement for having escaped or concern for his wife, Orpheus totally forgets about Hades' warning and turns to look at Eurydice.
NO!
Eurydice is just on the verge of exiting the cave, but she hasn't quite made it out.
We repeat: NO!
At that moment, three loud noises echo throughout the Underworld, signaling that something is very, very wrong.
Orpheus and Eurydice lock eyes for a split second. Eurydice just barely manages to say "Farewell!" before she is sucked back down to the Underworld.
Orpheus reaches for her – but he's grabbing at air. (How sad is this?)
Our guy is stunned. What should he do? He tries to enter the Underworld a second time, but this time the Ferryman on the River Styx won't let him pass.
Now it's time for more wallowing. For somewhere between seven days and seven months (depending on what version you read), Orpheus sits weeping on the banks of the River Styx.
Ugh.
Eventually, he wanders back to Thrace, still bemoaning the loss of Eurydice and singing the blues (literally).
Things aren't going well for this guy, and sure enough, for the rest of this life, Orpheus spurns the romantic advances of all other women. Now that's loyalty.
Among Orpheus' rejected lovers are the Maenads, a group of women who worship the drunken god Bacchus. They're a pretty unruly bunch, and when Orpheus turns them down, they are not happy campers.
The Maenads try to throw sticks and stones at him, but the objects refuse to hit Orpheus because they're enchanted by his music. This guy is even moving sticks and stones not to break his bones – impressive.
On to plan B: the Maenads rip Orpheus limb from limb, and scatter his body parts across the land. They also tear off his head and throw it in a river.
Well, then.
Even as Orpheus' head floats down the river, he calls out for Eurydice. How's that for romantic/creepy?
Orpheus' head eventually washes up on the island of Lesbos, where it's discovered by the Muses. They also find his limbs and give them a proper burial.
According to some accounts of the myth, the spirits of Orpheus and Eurydice end up finding each other in the Elysian Fields, which is the nicest part of the Underworld. Aw.
But some party pooper accounts don't agree that they are ever reunited. We like to think the first way is what really happened.

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When I read this myth, I instantly knew the placements would be significant with one guy.
We have Orpheus opposite Eurydice DW.

I wonder if it could be an indicator of a past life marriage/separation by untimely death. From the moment I met the guy I have this with, I felt a strong sense of knowing him and a feeling of being reunited.. as though I had literally been ripped from his arms some time before.

The pair seems a bit like Eros/Psyche. I've met a few guys I have the Eros/Psyche conjunction with (including this Orph/Eur DW dude) and while it is dreamy and magical, this pair seems a bit more visceral to me.

Check your placements! If you have aspects with someone, what was your experience of the relationship?

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posted September 03, 2013 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post!

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posted November 07, 2013 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted November 08, 2013 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by black_rose:
When I read this myth, I instantly knew the placements would be significant with one guy.
We have Orpheus opposite Eurydice DW.

I wonder if it could be an indicator of a past life marriage/separation by untimely death. From the moment I met the guy I have this with, I felt a strong sense of knowing him and a feeling of being reunited.. as though I had literally been ripped from his arms some time before.

The pair seems a bit like Eros/Psyche. I've met a few guys I have the Eros/Psyche conjunction with (including this Orph/Eur DW dude) and while it is dreamy and magical, this pair seems a bit more visceral to me.


Same here,
This story speaks to me in very deep ways...
Especially that tearing away part and the longing he felt for her afterwards, until death — that really strikes a cord within me and puts me on the verge of tears..
I am sure something like this has happened with us too in a previous life, which is why theres all this fear/longing carried on into this lifetime...
But I guess its our lesson now to get it right this time.

Plus I can relate 100% to how you felt when you first met the guy..
That recognition and familiarity, that this is it—finally you have found them (even though you weren't really "looking" when you met them, though atleast not consciously).

Interestingly, he is also a singer/musician, and like Orpheus, he uses that to express his deepest longings...
And I have a crazy phobia of snakes & reptiles; I can't stand watching them on TV or even seeing them in pictures.
Even the thought of them just really creeps me out and makes me uncomfortable...

Anyways,
In our synastry we have a double whammie of Orpheus/Eurydice too.
My Orpheus opposes his Eurydice 3°
His Orpheus trines my Eurydice 2°

In the composite we have an Orpheus/Eurydice quincunx of 2°, which is linked to our composite South Node.
C. South Node conjuncts Eurydice 2° and quincunxes Orpheus 0°
In the Davison composite there's a 1° trine between Orpheus/Eurydice.

I can see how this pair is somewhat similar to the theme of Eros/Psyche too, another story I resonate very much with.
His Eros squares my Psyche at 2°, and our Psyche's are exactly conjunct.

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posted November 08, 2013 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eros/Psyche gone wrong. Yes.

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posted November 08, 2013 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

In the Davison composite there's a 1° trine between Orpheus/Eurydice.

I



Another parallel.

In Davison we have Moon conjunct Eurydike on 20.4 Cancer in 7th house exact, trine Orpheus on 20.4 Pisces


Interestingly he has Eurydike conjunct his Sun exact (and also Moon and MC and MY Sun.-Circe-Reiki. lol)

his Orpheus is conujunct my Venus.

my Orpheus/Euridike-mp falls onto 27.53 Sagittarius

- conjunct his Eurydike: 0°55
- conj. his Sun: 0°56
- conj. his Moon: 0.45
- conj. his MC: 90.28
- square his Saturn: 1°11


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posted October 02, 2014 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saaad story.

Each of us have the opposition in our own charts and then Eurydice conj each other's moons.

My Eurydice conj his Moon/Saturn and opp my own Orpheus and his Venus (orb 4)

His Eurydice - 3 Scorp loosely conj my Moon & Eros & opp his own Orpheus & my Mars.

Hmmm...

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posted October 02, 2014 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
Saaad story.

Each of us have the opposition in our own charts and then Eurydice conj each other's moons.

My Eurydice conj his Moon/Saturn and opp my own Orpheus and his Venus (orb 4)

His Eurydice - 3 Scorp loosely conj my Moon & Eros & opp his own Orpheus & my Mars.

Hmmm...


You should check out this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000953.html

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posted October 02, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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KarmicMoon
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posted October 02, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of our Eurydike/Orpheus links...

Eurydike 0 51 cap trine Ceres 29 33 Aries DW
Ceres 8 10 Aries oppose Eurydike 8 36 Libra DW

His Eurydike 0 51 Cap trine my Juno 1 Taurus
His Juno 26 20 Cancer trine my Orpheus 27 52 Scorpio

His orpheus 13 45 Cap sextile my Pallas 14 25 Pisces
His Pallas 26 14 Aqua square my Orpheus 27 52 Scorpio

His Eurydike 0 51 Cap sextile/trine my Nodes 3 41 Pisces (these are both a little wide)
His NN 101 Virgo square my Orpheus 27 57 Scorpio

His Orpheus 13 45 Cap trine my Moon 11 37 Virgo and oppose my Sun
His Moon 10 59 Aries oppose my Eurydike 8 36 Libra

His Sisyphus 29 Scorpio cj my Orpheus 27 52 Scorpio
My Sisyphus 14 04 Cancer oppose his Orpheus 13 45 Cap

Day we met...me
Eurydike 23 44 leo sq Orpheus 27 52 (Wide at 4 but is a DW)
Eurydike 23 44 Leo cj BML 23 42 Leo
BML 0 36 Gemini oppose Orpheus 27 52 Scorpio
Eurydike 23 44 Leo sextile Osiris 23 56 Libra
Osiris 0 19 Sag cj Orpheus 27 52 Scorpio
Orpheus 3 14 Virgo sq Karma 3 11 Gemini

Day we met...him
Orpheus 3 13 Virgo trine Eurydike 0 51 Cap DW
There are likely more here that I haven't identified yet. It's painful to even look at them.

Yes, that's exactly what it means, many, many lifetimes of being parted too soon and never recovering from the loss.

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