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Ami Anne
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posted February 01, 2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know you like the dark asteroids. Do you admit it? No. They are guilty pleasures Your wish is my command. Onto the Dark Asteroids.

1. Nessus (7066)-– you know I am going to start with Nessus. Nessus is abuse. We all have one. However, it is not prominent in every natal chart.I believe a prominent Nessus in a natal chart will be an abusive person. People have written to me and said that they had a prominent Nessus and were not abusive. I am not saying that they lied. I just believe the chart over personal accounts. God is the only force which is stronger than the charts, in my opinion.

If you do not have a prominent Nessus in the natal, Nessus can be activated by synastry. In other words, when one person’s Nessus touches another person’s chart, the Nessus person will want to abuse the other person. People ask me if the person has to abuse. I say no because I cannot say yes, for sure. However, I think it will be a yes unless the Nessus person has a true conversion with God. This is very rare, so my answer remains yes.

2. Dejanira- (157)- Dejanira is the victim asteroid. Dejanira is not dark, per se. However, when she touches a part of the other person’s chart, she can become dark. Let me give a recent example. I wrote about it someplace else. However, it is illustrative of this point and worth repeating.

One of my website readers had Sado conjunct his Sun. He liked Sado/Macho relationships. He wanted to marry a woman with Dejanira conjunct the North Node. She will have to learn the lessons of victim hood. This is through no fault of her own. We don’t choose our charts. If we did, no one would choose this. However, we live out our charts. Hence, she was the perfect partner for him.

He may have been the perfect partner for her, too. This earth is not what we want it to be. It is what it is. The charts show us life on this earth. To deny that, is to live in unreality. To live in unreality is to be mentally ill. I grew up in a house where your reality was denied right in front of your eyes.That is why I strive so hard for absolute honesty.

In my opinion, Dejanira is an even harder asteroid to have than Nessus in the natal chart. It is easier on a person to be an abuser than a victim. Hence, my heart goes out to any person with a prominent Dejanira. By this, I mean Dejanira conjunct any personal part of the chart.

3. Sado (118230)– Sado is a recent addition to my asteroid list. Sado is just what it says. It is the trait of being sadistic. Strangely enough, the people with Sado conjunct the Sun admit it. I do not find this with many asteroids. People are reluctant to admit their faults. We all are. However, one must face oneself to change. As Jung said, “The Unexamined life is not worth living” I have Jung conjunct my Sun, exact. Also, I have seen too many people live fake lives. There is no purpose to it. Each person was made as a gift to God. You were made as a special package. You were made to unwrap that package, not paper over it like putting perfume on a swamp. We all have a swamp inside us, too. We all have the best and worst of humanity in us. The charts will help you open up your unique package. That is why I love them so much.

4. Bacchus (2063)–Bacchus like to have a good time, to the max.Bacchus is the asteroid of excess in all worldly pleasures. To put it in a word, if Bacchus wants a sexual encounter, he wants an orgy. If he wants a good meal, he wants to eat the entire table. I have seen Bacchus conjunct the North Node in a person with serious appetites, shall we say. If your man has a prominent Bacchus, know what you are getting in for.

5. Casanova ( 7328)--I discussed Casanova in his own article. He is not dark, per se. However, he is a smooth talker. We, women, fall for the gift of gab like nothing else, especially when it is about our beauty and charms. Casanova knows exactly what to say to get even the most genteel woman into his arma( and more) Hence, his tongue is a potent weapon to which most women cannot resist. I put Casanova here, so you can check him out in the chart of that guy who seems out of this world in love with you. It may just be that he is a master of seduction.

6. Proserpina (26)-– Proserpina shows up in the charts of people who had a very traumatic rite of passage from teen to adulthood. I have seen a case in which family secret opened up at the time of this man’s rite of passage. He was not the actual son of the father. I think that sexual abuse may be present in a prominent Proserpina,too.

This is a movie version but if you watched the Sopranos, Paulie found out that his mother was not really his mother. His aunt was his biological mother and she was a nun in Italy. This is a movie version of Proserpina. However, truth can be stronger than fiction and these kind of things happen and more often than you may imagine. This example will help you remember the nature of Proserpina and that is my goal.

7.Nemesis ( 128)– Nemesis is very telling. I was thinking about it this morning. Do you know when you have the feeling that a person is your enemy but you doubt yourself? The person may be a friend, family member or lover? You feel like they are not on your side. You think you must be imagining it. Often, you are not.

The asteroid Nemesis shows an enemy. If a person’s Nemesis touches your chart in synastry, I would watch out. The charts will play out. I have never seen a chart not play out. I think it is hubris for a man to think he can overcome the chart. Only God can, as I, often, say.

8. Lust (4386) Lust is not dark, per se. It describes a slice of sexuality. However, if lust is all two people have, it does not bode well for a lasting relationship. If your synastry is Lust dominant with few soul mate aspects, know that you will, most likely, have a fling.

9 .Nymphe(875) Nymphe is what the common use of the word suggests. It is a person with sex on his mind. If the synastry is Nymphe dominant, don’t expect a trip to meet his parents with you dressed in a sweater set, pumps and pearls.

10. Prey(6157) Prey is what it seems. I have seen it play out in synastry in just the same way that the word suggests. You may feel like you are the prey of another. If so, check your synastry and you very well may be. Astrology can help you avert a disaster.

I hope you have enjoyed this article and please Comment!


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posted February 01, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going to check ;-)
Thank for posting !

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posted February 01, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Lucifer (1938)? I would think he'd be on the list.

Here are examples of 2 relationships-one good the other bad

1) Bad relationship--Nemesis squares my Sun exact, Sado opposes my Moon exact

2)Good, caring relationship--Double whammy of Moon/Sado in hard aspect (one conjunction and one square).

It seems like a toss up. Other aspects can change and modify affect.

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posted February 01, 2014 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer is spiritual pride not a dark asteroid imo

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posted February 01, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Going to check ;-)
Thank for posting !

You are very welcome, Olga dear. Thank you for your post

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posted February 01, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lucifer is spiritual pride not a dark asteroid imo


I see. Could you explain what you mean by spiritual pride? Example, if someone has Sun or Moon conjunction with Lucifer, how would that play out? Thanks

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posted February 01, 2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really want to get into this subject with you, Linda.

Take care

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posted February 01, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put all the asteroid numbers on for you all, which is a feat for this earth void

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posted February 01, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't really want to get into this subject with you, Linda.

Take care


No problem. I'm sure you have your reasons for not wanting to discuss Lucifer with me

FWIW, it was a genuine question on my part, not a trap. I don't do manipulative traps on people.

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posted February 01, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has an exact trine from Dej. In taurus to Nessus , Bacchus ,Psyche !

His Dej. Conj. My Chiron In Taurus
His Lust trine my Jupitet exact
My Lust conj. His venus exact.
My nemesis bi-quin. To his Pluto exact.
My sado is sq. To his Nessus,Bacchus,Psyche.
My Dej. Exactly conj. His Moon/Uranus conj. In sag .
My prey is trine his Pluto exact .
My Dej. Is exact opp. His Eros/Mars .

My proserpina sext. His Sun

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posted February 01, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Nessus conjunct someones Mars.
Also my Mars is conjunct the same persons Dejanira...

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posted February 01, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think transits work too Ami,
Casonova is currently sq. to my Sun
Sado is currently opp. My Sun
Nymph is conj. Saturn
Lust is trine my Sun

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posted February 01, 2014 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
I think transits work too Ami,
Casonova is currently sq. to my Sun
Sado is currently opp. My Sun
Nymph is conj. Saturn
Lust is trine my Sun

How close are these, Olga? Can you feel them? I never did transits with asteroids. How cool!

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How close are these, Olga? Can you feel them? I never did transits with asteroids. How cool!


Casonova 1 degree sq. to Sun
Sado 2 degree opp . Sun
Lust exact trine to Sun
Nymph exact conj. To Saturn


Yes I feel them at the moment, this is new for me and him. We have both had similar exp. From past partnerships, we are both loners, and have been single for ages ;-) so now its good to have someone on the same level mentally and physically.
Its ironic really since we both really think sex is not that important ( I mean even slugs do it Lol) Its more , its about faith, trust and loyalty.


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Wow. I knew my ex husband already had afflictions to his Moon and Venus. After plugging in these asteroids into his natal, I am really, really glad not to be with him. He has Venus conjunct Nemesis. I totally see him viewing women as the enemy.

I fought the divorce, because I am not a quitter and I do everything possible to avoid breaking promises; but, we have a daughter together and I do not want her raised with his unhealthy attitude towards women.


Just for fun, I threw Narcissus into the mix. It conjuncts his Sun/Jupiter/Venus/Nemesis stellium. He totally fits the profile for NPD.

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posted February 01, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Fireopal! That is an amazing account and thanks for sharing it

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posted February 01, 2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have opened my eyes to transits, Olga!

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posted February 03, 2014 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have opened my eyes to transits, Olga!


Its cool, how it works out, just noticed too, when Nessus was opp. My Sun exact, I had prob. With myboyfr. Due to a ex. And I developed a facial rash, from an allergy :-I it cleared up when the transit passed!!!

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posted February 03, 2014 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolingembers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So . I decided to check these out , just out of curiosity.

Someone from my past has Dejanaria EXACT conjunct my venus of 7 degrees Scorpio.

Natally I have Nessus conjunct north node, also in Scorpio, also exact.

Hmmm. How would you guys interpret that?

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posted February 03, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
So . I decided to check these out , just out of curiosity.

Someone from my past has Dejanaria EXACT conjunct my venus of 7 degrees Scorpio.

Natally I have Nessus conjunct north node, also in Scorpio, also exact.

Hmmm. How would you guys interpret that?


Welcome Cooling. I don't think we have talked!

I would say that you have had to learn the lessons of abuse. Is this true?

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
How about Lucifer (1938)? I would think he'd be on the list.

Here are examples of 2 relationships-one good the other bad

1) Bad relationship--Nemesis squares my Sun exact, Sado opposes my Moon exact

2)Good, caring relationship--Double whammy of Moon/Sado in hard aspect (one conjunction and one square).

It seems like a toss up. Other aspects can change and modify affect.


Lucifer is pride and/or rebellion....in my chart lucifer is conjunct my Saturn 0degree and trined my Sun/Mercury
0 degree....I always worried about that thinking it had to be bad somehow, it's lucifer!!! He can't be good right?
But iQ did my chart and said, in my chart Lucifer was good....it's a spritual rebellion for the sake of what's right and truly righteous!
He said that's seen by the aspects to my Sun/Merc and the asteroid Compassion that sits on my Sun/Merc!
I think all asteroids must be looked at in this way, I was really surprised to find it's meaning so different than I had expected but it made perfect sense!

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omg

Lucifer is about the fight between reason and religion isn't it...

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omg

Lucifer is about the fight between reason and religion isn't it...



I don't call it religion. I call it a relationship with God but I am coming from a Born Again Christian perspective. Others may and will disagree.

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omg

Lucifer is about the fight between reason and religion isn't it...


I would say spirituality more than "religion". Religion is man made, lucifer is about the fight between the darkness and the light, it's above religion...although religion can play a part in what brings you light or dark since so many people turn to religion to find light and others are dragged through a religion that makes them fear God, and they have to fight to find light after being a part of a religion that brought them into darkness.

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