posted October 16, 2014 08:10 PM            

Expanding out from the 8H / SATURN thread, I'd instead like to discuss some experiences, or similar situations. And I'd also really like to stamp a 'hypothetical' disclaimer on this for now, because I cannot process much more.

Okay.

For starters --

• what did you look for?

• how did you discover the configuration? Was it instantly thematic, or did you have to plug in many asteroids over time?

• did you have recurring dreams or past-life recalls which directed your astro-investigation?

• were you using Draco to Tropical comparison once you started looking for the links from the past to the present -- or other techniques?

• was there a way you could tell the karma is operational NOW as opposed to only then?

• is there an 8H/SATURN overlay?

• were you able to piece together what most presumably happened? And how, if so?

• are there particular asteroids you use in conjunction with those representing the theme?

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I've been sitting on this long enough. I have no clue what's what anymore; what's real, what isn't, possible, or not.

I welcome contributors of all walks and levels of experience; just bear in mind I am using some rather advanced techniques, and am eager to learn even more.

posted October 16, 2014 09:23 PM            

He has chiron in the 8th singleton in the northern hemisphere of his chart.

He has an earth void except for his AC in virgo and the only thing he has from houses 7th to 12th, all of the northern hemisphere of his chart, is chiron in Taurus in the 8th.

His tightest chiron aspect is to his southnode. His chiron squares his southnode applying by one orb.

This information is just the beginning.....

Its like a domino effect were all the pieces of the puzzle start to fit and fall into place..

You fall into the rabbit hole and you start to dig and then at some point there is a domino effect and all falls into place....

You use draco to natal in all levels; natally, in synastry and composite. Also just GT to GT. All of it has indicators and you realize you are really truly getting to the root and hitting the nail finally..

I want to share with you everything I have found but want to put it all together on Saturday...However for now wanted to contribute that in addition to saturn in the 8th you can also look at chiron in the 8th or even karma in scorpio perhaps.

What would you think of an exact composite tsquare at 27 deg involving tisiphone opposite prey and this squaring Tardis?

posted October 16, 2014 09:31 PM            

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I have saturn in scorpio, he has chiron in the 8th.

posted October 16, 2014 09:46 PM            

Thanks, H. I appreciate your dropping in to share that. I feel that TARDIS, INTERKOSMOS and Uranian points indicate how this is either multi-dimensional, even transdimensional -- and likely to be operating across timelines.

I think what's most jarring for me is the bizarre similarities to something I know very, very well, which I was perfectly fine with being nothing more than a compelling story.

But it would seem the synastry tells a different story.

I look forward to what you've got on Saturday. I'll be trying to compile what I have in the meantime as well.

posted October 16, 2014 10:31 PM            

I can post some charts in a day or so if you want; just let me know what type of charts you want to see and what asteroids you want on them.

I would be going at it from the opposite direction: I had a past-life recall (self-induced hypnosis, essentially) years and years ago where my now-father murdered me (Medieval times). The issue with that is there is no way to know my father's birth time; I really haven't spent much time analyzing our synastry or other charts.

Perhaps helpful for comparison's sake might be the one with my current relationship where he has the Pluto/Saturn overlay to my 8H, as I mentioned in the other thread. I had another past-life recall, probably almost 25 years ago, where I was an American slave child dying of a disease, with my mother caring for me. I had no idea at the time who the mother was; now I think she was probably my current SO.

For what it's worth, I checked briefly and can tell you that in our natals (I originally planned to list these separately for my father and my SO as I don't recall them being in the same past-life recalls, but WOW):

My father's Tisiphone: Lib 1.52
My Sun: Lib 2.5
SO's Karma: Lib 1.37
My father's Saturn: Ari 4.15

posted October 16, 2014 10:56 PM            

Our pattern is curious in that it's mirrored, with TISIPHONE significant across systems, and with nTISIPHONE square drTISIPHONE.

In this case, it DOES seem to be pointing to a bizarre instance which pits Tisiphonic theme against Tisiphonic theme.

It interesting that it's his SUN that's conjunct my TISIPHONE. Oddly, I've seen many, many instances unfold in which -- well, truthfully, my character -- was indeed the one hunting him, mostly due to bad information. That sensation and overall feeling is an awful one. Conversely, it never had any followthrough.

Frankly, until I began running the synastry ... I thought the same in the reverse. Close-but-no-cigar. Threat, but no tragedy. Something always coming through in the eleventh hour. That was the FIRST time, EVER, in 15 years, that I suddenly had to ask myself -- but ... what if he ... did? A very, very uncomfortable question.

I suppose that present TISIPHONE can be both the previously victimised one, as well as the one who victimised. I hadn't realised that before.

The other more specific link was my CHIRON-PREY on his TISIPHONE-HADES. It was seeing that which brought a lot suddenly into focus.

Interestingly, I can see that he WAS victimised by my TISIPHONE, but not at all in the 'standard fashion', so to speak. Were it not for his own TISIPHONE being so prominent, it wouldn't have happened. One or the other, but both events and conditions could not exist together.

posted October 17, 2014 08:24 AM            

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Man, I don't even know if I would want the answer to that question!

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posted October 21, 2014 07:20 PM            

I do recommend you check the southnode persona chart. My SN persona Atlantis conjuncts exact my natal Sun-Edo-Horus stellium; everything at 28 deg virgo.

Its too clear I have a past life with him during the Edo era specifically when both Samurais and Geishas were around so we are talking 1800s.

In our composite persona southnode chart we have chiron conjunct interkosmos exact in the 5th.

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I would say SN, IC, and Saturn persona charts can be used to confirm further certain findings or to get additional details.

I am not sure about this but check out DNA persona and tell me if you think there is something to it...

posted October 25, 2014 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I do recommend you check the southnode persona chart.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I am not sure about this but check out DNA persona and tell me if you think there is something to it...

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Wow! Good idea.

On a different note, just realized Scorpio guy's Pluto is exactly opp my 8H ruler (in addition to putting his Saturn-Pluto and 3 other planets in my 8th). His Tisiphone squares my Sun.

MY Tisiphone, in my chart, trines 8H ruler, Dejanira and Sado. It conjuncts his Neptune-Valentine-NEMESIS! And sextiles his Pluto.