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Topic: Experimental Technique - 0 Aries and "essential value" placement transposition
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libran_dream
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 17, 2014 07:15 AM
  
Here's a system I've been playing with lately. It is, essentially, a 0 Aries point planet transposition technique.
I was mostly using it for individual analysis, but I looked into applications for Synastry as well.
Since this is the Interpersonal Forum, I'll focus on Synastry here.The main technique is to treat a luminary(or any other position, works for everything, including midpoints, house cusps, Nodes...) as the new 0 Aries point. I guess the theory behind this is that the energy of a luminary is at its most potent and originative at the point of its physical presence, but that does not mean the effect of its energy does not go through the same cycles of life as everything else(ie - the Zodiac). I'll explain through examples, using my own chart.
My Sun is at 16TAU, my Moon at 11SAG. From 0ARI, my Sun is 46°. When I add my essential value Sun(I'm just calling it an essential placement at this point, placeholder name) to my Moon, calculating 11SAG + 46, I get 27CAP.
The reason why I took notice of this technique's application in Synastry is that that's his AC.
At this point, I'm calling this calculation your Planet 1's Planet 2. So, here, 27CAP is my Moon's Sun.
One of the interpretations is that this is a point where my emotions can express themselves, and where they can shine. Another, ie, is that it's the embodiment of my emotions. A classic one is literally the woman's man. We can draw out lots of meanings here I think. Here's another example - my Venus is at 8ARI, adding 11SAG + 8 gives us 19SAG. This is where his Chiron is. I have felt that a part of the attraction for me is that I feel I can use the more beautiful expressions of my emotions to heal him on a very deep level. This is quite cliche, of course  , but I don't really have lots of aspects in my chart that speak of this type of relating to men. (ARI Venus and GEM Mars combination is not all that spiritual in approach to relationships.) So my opinion at this point is that this Moon's Venus placement is part of what's making this compulsion for me. I started the chart calculation with the Moon, as I do generally consider this the main relationship indicator, but you can move on and do Venus, Sun, Mars, Pluto, DC, Sun/Moon midpoint etc. after it. ---
A brief step-by-step technique explanation: 1. Take Luminary/Point/Placement A
2. Take Luminary/Point/Placement B
3. Calculate B's distance from 0 Aries, in the direction of the Zodiac
4. Add this distance to Luminary A.
5. You get A's B placement -> a specific way that the A luminary will express itself. It's experimental and I'd love to hear about your results! Shower me with numbers please. 
Here's a little helper cheat-sheet:
0 ARI
30 TAU
60 GEM
90 CAN
120 LEO
150 VIR
180 LIB
210 SCO
240 SAG
270 CAP
300 AQU
330 PIS
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 17, 2014 07:36 AM
Very nice concept, LD  I'll check mine  ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 18, 2014 11:29 AM
Well, I got some weird here...the Sun of my Moon
6 Aqua (also, the Moon of my Sun 4 Aqua) the Venus of my Mars
6 Pisces the Mars of my Venus
6 Pisces
my natal Venus: 6 Virgo
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Ceridwen
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posted October 18, 2014 12:18 PM
Sounds like a Draconic chart, just in relation to the other planets. If using Venus, Davison calle dit the Venus-zodiac, and of course ther eis also a Mars-zodiac, a Sun-zodicac etc.
I agree that is very illuminating. his Sun chart to my natal solar Moon conjunct IC (3)
solar Mercury conjunct Jupiter 82)
solar Venus opposite Uranus (3)
solar Jupiter conj. NN-Neptune (3)
solar Saturn conjunct Sun (3)
solar Saturn conjunct Vesta (2)
solar Uranus conjunct Psyche (2)
solar uranus conj. BML (2)
solar Pluto conj. Avx (3)
solar NN conj. Mars (1)
solar NN conj. Amor (2)
solar Vertex conj. Mars (3)
solar Vertex conj. Amor (1)
solar DESC conjunct Sun (2)
solar MC conj. IC (3)
solar Juno conj. Uranus (1)
solar Juno conj. Union (1)
solar Amor conj. NN-Neptune (2)
solar Eros conj. SN (1)
solar Psyche opp. Valentine (0)
solar Valentine conj. Psyche (2)
solar Osiris opposite Isis (0)
solar Osiris opposite Osiris 1)
solar BML conj. Amor (1)
solar BML conj. Mars (4)
solar Priapus conj. DESC (4)
solar Priapus opp. Amor (2)
solar Priapus opp. Mars (2)
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Ceridwen
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posted October 18, 2014 12:24 PM
My Moon chart to his natallunar ASC conj. Venus (5)
lunar MC conj. Valentine (1)
lunar Saturn conj. NN (1)
lunar Saturn conj. BML (2)
lunar Saturn opp. Priapus (2)
lunar Neptune conj. Venus (2)
lunar NN conj. Venus (2)
lunar Pluto conj. Uranus (1)
lunar Pluto conj. Valentine (3)
lunar Vertex conj. NN (3)
lunar Juno opp Union (1)
lunar Eros conj. NN (3)
lunar Priapus conj. Mars (2)
lunar Priapus conj. Jupiter (1)
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Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
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posted October 18, 2014 12:47 PM
Heh. I see you're doing a lot of 'Persona' charts lately.  IP: Logged |
libran_dream
Knowflake Posts: 410
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 19, 2014 09:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, I got some weird here...the Sun of my Moon
6 Aqua (also, the Moon of my Sun 4 Aqua) the Venus of my Mars
6 Pisces the Mars of my Venus
6 Pisces
my natal Venus: 6 Virgo
I think the A-B positions will generally be the same. Meaning A-B and B-A calculate to the same position. Are your Mars&Venus in aspect Tropically? quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sounds like a Draconic chart, just in relation to the other planets. If using Venus, Davison calle dit the Venus-zodiac, and of course ther eis also a Mars-zodiac, a Sun-zodicac etc.
I agree that is very illuminating.
It's a transposition chart, Draconic is a transposition chart type, so yes, similar.Venus-Zodiac, Mars-Zodiac is a great name. Certainly a lot simpler than "0 Aries essential placement transposition chart". I just love to complicate things, what can I say. So, so many links in your synastry. I think the solar Jupiter - NN/Neptune is a big part in your fascination with him. This is at its core, a very "impressive" energy, the jovial part of the solar.
And lunar AC/NN/Neptune conjunct Venus, oh boy. That is strong right there. quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Heh. I see you're doing a lot of 'Persona' charts lately.
Haha, I like to take something and move it somewhere else. "Redecorate" the charts.
tUranus is on my DC right now, I'm suspecting this as the culprit. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 19, 2014 10:04 AM
"I think the solar Jupiter - NN/Neptune is a big part in your fascination with him. This is at its core, a very "impressive" energy, the jovial part of the solar."
Yes, makes a LOT of sense. It is so funny he is a Sagittarius, too. Sun in Sagitarius just vibes so well with solar Jupiter. lol
"And lunar AC/NN/Neptune conjunct Venus, oh boy. That is strong right there."
Yes, but who is drawn to whom.
Actually I found it very interesting as well that
his solar DESC conjunct my tropical Sun-Mercury, on his tropical Sun-Moon-MC (25-28 Sag) my solar DESC conjunct his tropical Mars-Jupiter (10-11 Virgo) opposing my tropical Jupiter as well And hence emphasizing what I consider to be part of the two back-bone-aspect-figures in our synastry.
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 03:28 PM
LD, my Venus/Mars angle 24 deg. ------------------
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