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Topic: Persona Charts and Synastry - Part II
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 11:28 AM
Continuing the thread here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000002.html since it's getting too long. An interesting thing to check, at Cappy's suggestion: progressed Persona Charts. Transits to those charts may give additional clues too. Another thing I'm about to check, since I delved into Draco recently: Draco Persona charts. Draco Moon Persona is a general tool for your destiny, all those important things with emotional impact - considering the Nodes are related to the Moon anyway. Additional clues to the journey of your soul are definitely in there.
Your destined love/Venusian destiny: Draco Venus Persona Draco DSC Persona, Juno Persona, DSC ruler Persona - your destined spouse/partner Draco chart ruler Persona - another general tool for reading your current life path Do you suggest anything else?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 11:55 AM
Draco IC Persona, your deepest soulsoupIP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Draco IC Persona, your deepest soulsoup
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:15 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:21 PM
Moon conj MoonMoon Mars Saturn on MC...wow! his soup is quite concentrated How would you interpret the IC Persona, Ceri? The deepest needs of the soul? And the Draco one? Isn't Draco IC an important symbol of our current incarnation? ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:25 PM
Yes, his charts tend to concentrated including his Sun-Persona which is just another word for his natal chart of course. Well opinions differ on Draco. Past life? Future lifew? anything in between? Personally I would think the oppositions would refer to past lives if at all (as they are conjunctions with the SN). The Draco IC to me is your soulintention. The Dracos often answer to the question WHY or to WHAT PURPOSE (hence the soulpath), and IC is deep soulstuff anyway. So Draco IC is just that. Deep.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:31 PM
Interestngly my Draco IC is in Cancer, and it seems to display my loyalty and ties to my family even more accurately than my tropical ARies-IC. WEll possibly they both fit somehow. lolBut also, my Grandma was a Cancer with Sun-Mars-Pluto-conjunction in that sign. My Mom has ASC in Cancer. At least 3 or 4 friends of me had ASC or Moon in Cancer, sometimes both. Mr Sag has Draco Sun, Moon, Neptune, MC in Cancer, he as well has a tightly knit family, in fact from how he talks about them, his family origin seems to be very similiar to my own. Anyway, what you can`t quite see in his tropical chart, but he sais he loves cooking (and eating ) and oftentimes finds himself catering his colleagues during stressful workphases. He also once said that if he had not become a performer ons tage, he would have loved to own a restaurant, where he could combine cooking and entertaining. The singing cook, or the cooking singer so to speak I suppose. lol But I find that fitst that DRaco Cancer quite well.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:33 PM
ahh OK I got it like the fulfillment of your heart's desire, on this path. I often look at IC as "coming home".I know it's also a point of incarnation, conjunctions there showing a connection with the past life, what you incarnate from your past life, like the Womb- coming from the Womb and moving towards MC as the culmination in this life. Something like that lol ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Interestngly my Draco IC is in Cancer, and it seems to display my loyalty and ties to my family even more accurately than my tropical ARies-IC. WEll possibly they both fit somehow. lolBut also, my Grandma was a Cancer with Sun-Mars-Pluto-conjunction in that sign. My Mom has ASC in Cancer. At least 3 or 4 friends of me had ASC or Moon in Cancer, sometimes both. Mr Sag has Draco Sun, Moon, Neptune, MC in Cancer, he as well has a tightly knit family, in fact from how he talks about them, his family origin seems to be very similiar to my own. Anyway, what you can`t quite see in his tropical chart, but he sais he loves cooking (and eating ) and oftentimes finds himself catering his colleagues during stressful workphases. He also once said that if he had not become a performer ons tage, he would have loved to own a restaurant, where he could combine cooking and entertaining. The singing cook, or the cooking singer so to speak I suppose. lol But I find that fitst that DRaco Cancer quite well.
Very interesting. The soul family. And the archetype of your soul.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: ahh OK I got it like the fulfillment of your heart's desire, on this path. I often look at IC as "coming home".I know it's also a point of incarnation, conjunctions there showing a connection with the past life, what you incarnate from your past life, like the Womb- coming from the Womb and moving towards MC as the culmination in this life. Something like that lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:39 PM
soul-family in very literal terms. But I believe any IC has a connection to soul-family, not just Cancer there. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:41 PM
My Draco IC is in Virgo 2.21, my tropical Sun/Moon mdp 2.33 Virgo. Could this be a desire/need/destiny for union, becoming one, at least within oneself? My tropical Venus 6 Virgo. Or maybe a strong connection with love and beauty.------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:42 PM
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: My Draco IC is in Virgo 2.21, my tropical Sun/Moon mdp 2.33 Virgo. Could this be a desire/need/destiny for union, becoming one, at least within oneself? My tropical Venus 6 Virgo. Or maybe a strong connection with love and beauty.
Yes, and whenever you fall in love, you touch the deepest part of your soul as well. I see them as portals almost, like gates between different dimension. If a DRaco planet conjuncts a tropical planet, we might first and foremost touch that tropical planet, but in doing so we are getting access to that internal level underneath or within. A little like Alice and the Rabbithole maybe. lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 12:48 PM
What you see above, the Draco-Draco, is the inner level, what is going on underneath, maybe hidden so deep that we are hardly aware of, but also possibly a resource. It would now be interesting to check which tropical points are conjuncting it and making us slide into the rabbithole of the Draco. Well for once my ASC and his Mercury open up the gate to my Draco Cupido and his Draco Chiron. lol IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 12:49 PM
I just love this idea of the Rabbithole and Draco ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 19838 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 01:04 PM
BTW my Alice is conjunct his Dr Mars-Jupiter-Amor closely. lol and my Dr Alice is on 29 Cancer, where my pr Moon is currently, right on his tropical Juno and Dr Moon-MC: also opposes his tropical Venus. his Dr Alice is exactly on my Excalibur, Dr Juno and opposing tropical Venus, all exact.
his tropical Alice is conjunct my ASC-Lust exact and Mars,Neptune-NN by 2-3 degrees. They are trine each other as well, Alice-Alice.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 29, 2014 01:33 PM
Ahhh, what would you do without me. I tried to generate a legit draco persona but I couldn't even though I chose the draco zodiac, boohoo. Anyway, I have some very interesting things to show you!Moon persona to IC persona. Composite Moon at 5 Cancer. ICs conjunct my ASC. So spooky me lovey. The synastry turned draco. IC IC conjunct my IC, lol.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 29, 2014 02:31 PM
My poor progressed Moon persona. My IC persona to you know whose natal.
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Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 501 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 29, 2014 02:49 PM
Well, hot dang. I finally found an exact his Mars/my Venus conjunction in the Draconic Persona IC synastry.Also conjunct his Persona IC Vesta. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 03:01 PM
Could the IC chart be like a profile of one's soul? Pluto Man's IC Persona is so beautiful!!! ASC in Sag conjunct his natal NN Sun conj Mercury, chart DSC ruler, conj this ASC a Cardinal Cross made of Venus, 5th ruler, conj Vesta in Cap 1st opp Saturn in Cancer 7th sq Alma in Aries opp Pluto/POF. Mars, IC ruler, conj Amor, Lust, Neptune and NN in Sag 12th, making a NN Kite with Pluto and Pallas. NN conj my natal NN and Venus semisextile Mars/Lust exact. Valentine semisextile DSC ruler exact Moon Ceres exact conjunction conj Jupiter (chart ruler) and Juno in Pisces 2nd and Juno on 3rd cusp, with 3rd as sec 7th Cupido trine ASC and Chiron with Chiron conj IC exact awww poor soul! maybe he just wakes up ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah423: Well, hot dang. I finally found an exact his Mars/my Venus conjunction in the Draconic Persona IC synastry.Also conjunct his Persona IC Vesta.
hello, Delilah. How are you?
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 12516 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 03:08 PM
Cappy, the comparison is with your own charts, or between you and him? EDIT: I mean the first two ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1679 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 03:15 PM
Cappy! I cam this close '' to send you a chocolate cake to draw you out lol. Let's group hug for 5 minutes girls! ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 29, 2014 03:18 PM
Only the last chart is between edit: me and him lol. If the IC is the most personal spot then the IC persona would be...personally personal. Intimate. Naked?My IC to his IC, tropical and draconic. Me likey them too. IP: Logged |