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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 29, 2014 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continuing the thread here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000002.html

since it's getting too long.

An interesting thing to check, at Cappy's suggestion: progressed Persona Charts. Transits to those charts may give additional clues too.

Another thing I'm about to check, since I delved into Draco recently: Draco Persona charts.


Draco Moon Persona is a general tool for your destiny, all those important things with emotional impact - considering the Nodes are related to the Moon anyway. Additional clues to the journey of your soul are definitely in there.

Your destined love/Venusian destiny: Draco Venus Persona

Draco DSC Persona, Juno Persona, DSC ruler Persona - your destined spouse/partner

Draco chart ruler Persona - another general tool for reading your current life path

Do you suggest anything else?

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posted October 29, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draco IC Persona, your deepest soulsoup

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posted October 29, 2014 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Draco IC Persona, your deepest soulsoup

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posted October 29, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His and my soulsoup emeshment


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posted October 29, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conj Moon

Moon Mars Saturn on MC...wow! his soup is quite concentrated

How would you interpret the IC Persona, Ceri? The deepest needs of the soul? And the Draco one? Isn't Draco IC an important symbol of our current incarnation?

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posted October 29, 2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, his charts tend to concentrated including his Sun-Persona which is just another word for his natal chart of course.

Well opinions differ on Draco.
Past life? Future lifew? anything in between?

Personally I would think the oppositions would refer to past lives if at all (as they are conjunctions with the SN).

The Draco IC to me is your soulintention. The Dracos often answer to the question WHY or to WHAT PURPOSE (hence the soulpath), and IC is deep soulstuff anyway. So Draco IC is just that. Deep.


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posted October 29, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestngly my Draco IC is in Cancer, and it seems to display my loyalty and ties to my family even more accurately than my tropical ARies-IC. WEll possibly they both fit somehow. lol

But also, my Grandma was a Cancer with Sun-Mars-Pluto-conjunction in that sign. My Mom has ASC in Cancer. At least 3 or 4 friends of me had ASC or Moon in Cancer, sometimes both.

Mr Sag has Draco Sun, Moon, Neptune, MC in Cancer, he as well has a tightly knit family, in fact from how he talks about them, his family origin seems to be very similiar to my own.
Anyway, what you can`t quite see in his tropical chart, but he sais he loves cooking (and eating ) and oftentimes finds himself catering his colleagues during stressful workphases.
He also once said that if he had not become a performer ons tage, he would have loved to own a restaurant, where he could combine cooking and entertaining. The singing cook, or the cooking singer so to speak I suppose. lol

But I find that fitst that DRaco Cancer quite well.


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posted October 29, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh OK I got it like the fulfillment of your heart's desire, on this path. I often look at IC as "coming home".

I know it's also a point of incarnation, conjunctions there showing a connection with the past life, what you incarnate from your past life, like the Womb- coming from the Womb and moving towards MC as the culmination in this life. Something like that lol

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posted October 29, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interestngly my Draco IC is in Cancer, and it seems to display my loyalty and ties to my family even more accurately than my tropical ARies-IC. WEll possibly they both fit somehow. lol

But also, my Grandma was a Cancer with Sun-Mars-Pluto-conjunction in that sign. My Mom has ASC in Cancer. At least 3 or 4 friends of me had ASC or Moon in Cancer, sometimes both.

Mr Sag has Draco Sun, Moon, Neptune, MC in Cancer, he as well has a tightly knit family, in fact from how he talks about them, his family origin seems to be very similiar to my own.
Anyway, what you can`t quite see in his tropical chart, but he sais he loves cooking (and eating ) and oftentimes finds himself catering his colleagues during stressful workphases.
He also once said that if he had not become a performer ons tage, he would have loved to own a restaurant, where he could combine cooking and entertaining. The singing cook, or the cooking singer so to speak I suppose. lol

But I find that fitst that DRaco Cancer quite well.



Very interesting. The soul family. And the archetype of your soul.

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posted October 29, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
ahh OK I got it like the fulfillment of your heart's desire, on this path. I often look at IC as "coming home".

I know it's also a point of incarnation, conjunctions there showing a connection with the past life, what you incarnate from your past life, like the Womb- coming from the Womb and moving towards MC as the culmination in this life. Something like that lol


yes exactly

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posted October 29, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
soul-family in very literal terms.

But I believe any IC has a connection to soul-family, not just Cancer there.

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posted October 29, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Draco IC is in Virgo 2.21, my tropical Sun/Moon mdp 2.33 Virgo. Could this be a desire/need/destiny for union, becoming one, at least within oneself? My tropical Venus 6 Virgo. Or maybe a strong connection with love and beauty.

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posted October 29, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, maybe you already saw it, but I do not grow tired of looking at it.


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posted October 29, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My Draco IC is in Virgo 2.21, my tropical Sun/Moon mdp 2.33 Virgo. Could this be a desire/need/destiny for union, becoming one, at least within oneself? My tropical Venus 6 Virgo. Or maybe a strong connection with love and beauty.


Yes, and whenever you fall in love, you touch the deepest part of your soul as well.

I see them as portals almost, like gates between different dimension. If a DRaco planet conjuncts a tropical planet, we might first and foremost touch that tropical planet, but in doing so we are getting access to that internal level underneath or within.

A little like Alice and the Rabbithole maybe. lol

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posted October 29, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you see above, the Draco-Draco, is the inner level, what is going on underneath, maybe hidden so deep that we are hardly aware of, but also possibly a resource.

It would now be interesting to check which tropical points are conjuncting it and making us slide into the rabbithole of the Draco.

Well for once my ASC and his Mercury open up the gate to my Draco Cupido and his Draco Chiron. lol

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posted October 29, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just love this idea of the Rabbithole and Draco

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posted October 29, 2014 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW my Alice is conjunct his Dr Mars-Jupiter-Amor closely. lol
and my Dr Alice is on 29 Cancer, where my pr Moon is currently, right on his tropical Juno and Dr Moon-MC: also opposes his tropical Venus.


his Dr Alice is exactly on my Excalibur, Dr Juno and opposing tropical Venus, all exact.

his tropical Alice is conjunct my ASC-Lust exact and Mars,Neptune-NN by 2-3 degrees.

They are trine each other as well, Alice-Alice.


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posted October 29, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh, what would you do without me.
I tried to generate a legit draco persona but I couldn't even though I chose the draco zodiac, boohoo. Anyway, I have some very interesting things to show you!

Moon persona to IC persona. Composite Moon at 5 Cancer. ICs conjunct my ASC. So spooky me lovey.

The synastry turned draco. IC IC conjunct my IC, lol.


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posted October 29, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My poor progressed Moon persona.


My IC persona to you know whose natal.

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posted October 29, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, hot dang. I finally found an exact his Mars/my Venus conjunction in the Draconic Persona IC synastry.

Also conjunct his Persona IC Vesta.

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posted October 29, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could the IC chart be like a profile of one's soul? Pluto Man's IC Persona is so beautiful!!!

ASC in Sag conjunct his natal NN
Sun conj Mercury, chart DSC ruler, conj this ASC

a Cardinal Cross made of Venus, 5th ruler, conj Vesta in Cap 1st opp Saturn in Cancer 7th sq Alma in Aries opp Pluto/POF.

Mars, IC ruler, conj Amor, Lust, Neptune and NN in Sag 12th, making a NN Kite with Pluto and Pallas. NN conj my natal NN and Venus semisextile Mars/Lust exact.

Valentine semisextile DSC ruler exact

Moon Ceres exact conjunction conj Jupiter (chart ruler) and Juno in Pisces 2nd and Juno on 3rd cusp, with 3rd as sec 7th

Cupido trine ASC and Chiron with Chiron conj IC exact awww poor soul! maybe he just wakes up

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posted October 29, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Well, hot dang. I finally found an exact his Mars/my Venus conjunction in the Draconic Persona IC synastry.

Also conjunct his Persona IC Vesta.



hello, Delilah. How are you?

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posted October 29, 2014 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, the comparison is with your own charts, or between you and him?
EDIT: I mean the first two
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posted October 29, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy! I cam this close '' to send you a chocolate cake to draw you out lol. Let's group hug for 5 minutes girls!

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posted October 29, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only the last chart is between edit: me and him lol. If the IC is the most personal spot then the IC persona would be...personally personal. Intimate. Naked?

My IC to his IC, tropical and draconic. Me likey them too.

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