posted October 30, 2014 01:16 PM            

Taineberry believes they met on or around January 10, 1981, I'm assuming in Durban, South Africa.

They have known each other since 1981 and have been married since 1984.

posted October 30, 2014 04:49 PM            

She has a Scorpio Dsc, with Moon and Neptune in the 7th. Mars and Pluto co-rule her Dsc and both are in Virgo.

He has Scorpio rising, and is a Virgo Sun, Pluto, Mercury. The Sun and Pluto are also conjunct. This all goes very well with the Scorpio/Virgo of her 7th house.

Also, his Cancer Venus symbolically matches her Moon in the 7th.

Her 5th and 8th houses are represented as well. She has Virgo on the 5th house cusp and Pluto in the 5th house, so her 5th house is very similar in it’s energy style to her 7th house. Again his Virgo/Scorpio placements fit the profile.

She has Sagittarius on the 8th house cusp ruled by Jupiter in Aries. He has Moon in Aries.

He has a Taurus Dsc and she has a Taurus Asc, Venus, and Mercury. Her Venus/Mercury conjunction sits right on his Dsc.

Her Sun in Gemini also falls into his 7th house. And since he has Gemini on the 8th house cusp it resonates with his 8th house as well.

His 5th house falls in Pisces ruled by Neptune in Scorpio, and this resonates with her Scorpio Moon.

posted October 30, 2014 05:49 PM            

While I poured over my university books trying to impress my lecturers, he was in overalls and safety boots sauntering with his tools along 100ft high factory catwalks suspended above tanks of toxic chemicals. Perfect. Practical and dangerous. Virgo and Pluto.

posted November 02, 2014 12:53 PM            

Okay...

1. Taineberry, you have a fixed T-square involving your angular planets (1st house Mercury-Venus opposed 7th house Moon-Neptune, squared 10th house Saturn). The "empty leg" falls to your 4th house in Leo. Not only does your husband fill this "hole", he fills it with his angular north node! (conjunct Uranus). There has been a belief over the years that Saturn conjunct the south node in synastry represents separation. If this is true (and I'm skeptical), you prove the exception to the rule!

posted November 02, 2014 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
We had an instantaneous connection when we first met. He was tall, had long hair and a beard, rode a cool motorbike, wore old wrecked jeans, and had an intense, powerful,fierce, brooding, lean (half-starved) look. Just the kind of boyfriend that would definitely aggrieve my mum. "Yummy" I thought.He didn't even wear deodorant (due to his erroneous belief at the time that as long as he showered regularly his sweat smelt manly) ... and there I was, with my pretty dress looking like butter wouldn't melt in my mouth.

While I poured over my university books trying to impress my lecturers, he was in overalls and safety boots sauntering with his tools along 100ft high factory catwalks suspended above tanks of toxic chemicals. Perfect. Practical and dangerous. Virgo and Pluto.

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posted November 02, 2014 03:31 PM            

His pMoon 2 deg appl. square to his pSun (FQ/first Quarter)

Her pMoon 16 deg past her pSun (NW/New Moon)

(will have a more synchronised walk in time ^)

But her pMoon is also EXACTLY solstice conjunt her nSun at that meeting time.

There was another thing I noticed.

The progressed Sun/Moon phase of both differs 136-138 deg from their Original natal Sun/Moon phase. Looking at meeting.

But well, this ^ is the first time I look at it that way.

posted November 04, 2014 05:36 PM            

2. Something else I noticed is that you both have inconjunct Sun-Moon placements natally, so there may be an inherent understanding between you.

3. Your Moon signs, while inconjunct by sign, are both ruled by Mars, which helps considerably.

4. Mercuries in trine is always helpful, whether or not the Mercuries are significant factors in the natal charts.

5. Taineberry, his Moon is conjunct your ASC. We have had multiple discussions on separate threads about this topic (planets conjunct the ASC in synastry). How do you feel this plays out? I realize it can be very hard to distinguish individual factors from the larger picture, but regarding the "instantaneous connection" you felt at the beginning, was there an emotional component. If so, to which side did it fall more strongly? Do you think, as the ASC person, that you picked up on his Moon, or vice versa?

6. A novice might notice that your Sun appears to be unaspected in this synastric comparison (using Ptolemaic aspects). However, your Sun's ruler, Mercury, conjunct his DSC, and his Mars falls into your Sun's ruling house (the 4th).

7. You have node-Vertex aspects both ways, and what can't be seen visually (astro.com needs to work on this!) is the larger configurations formed from these links. I see... a Grand Cross formed from his Vertex points and your nodes. I think there is a house formation (hard to tell) involving your Vertex points/Saturn and his Vertex points/nodes/Uranus.

posted November 05, 2014 01:25 PM            

... 100% agree with this. I have been a long time fan of David Cochrane's theory regarding mirrored aspects btwn sun and moon. In my general experience, I find a magnetic attraction (not sexual - it's more of feeling of being on the same wavelength) to other people who have their sun/moon in inconjunct signs like me. The closer they are to 154 deg apart which is the exact angle between my sun and moon, the more we seem to "get" each other. I have one friend whose sun/moon separation angle almost exactly the same as mine, and it is like we vibrate with the same energy resonance even though we are very different people. Hard to describe, but it feels like we connect or are in synch with one another without trying. With my husband, our separation angle is a bit further and therefore the resonance is weaker, but I still believe that the inconjunct sign factor did play a part in bringing us together - because the way we integrate our sun/moon energies has a similar resonance. BTW, all people who have similar separation angles between their sun and moon in natal will have either a conjunction or opposition btwn sun and moon in composite. Our composite isn't very exciting, but we do have that sun/moon opposition (wide-ish)

3. Your Moon signs, while inconjunct by sign, are both ruled by Mars, which helps considerably.

....Our moons are certainly very different, and so are the way we instinctively respond to things. This is not the easiest part of our relationship. See (8) below. I wish he rather had a pisces moon!!!!

4. Mercuries in trine is always helpful, whether or not the Mercuries are significant factors in the natal charts.

....Yep, I feel this strongly. We can communicate clearly with one another, and find each other intellectually stimulating.

5. Taineberry, his Moon is conjunct your ASC. We have had multiple discussions on separate threads about this topic (planets conjunct the ASC in synastry). How do you feel this plays out? I realize it can be very hard to distinguish individual factors from the larger picture, but regarding the "instantaneous connection" you felt at the beginning, was there an emotional component. If so, to which side did it fall more strongly? Do you think, as the ASC person, that you picked up on his Moon, or vice versa?

.... Ok, let me try .. When I think back to those early days, I was most definitely acting out my scorpio-moonness BIG TIME. I.e being all weird and intense - like a cross between a self-destructive nymphomanic and a secret agent on steroids. God knows how that attracted him, but somehow it did! So, yes, I was lapping up the attention and I suppose also the encouragement he was giving me to express my teenage emotional angst, but it was really him (the asc) person that was doing the chasing. He was kind of fascinated by my antics, and I saw him as a prime candidate upon whom to practice my emotional wiles as he fitted the bill by looking the part of a "dark and mysterious stranger". Even to this day,I think he is still intrigued and somewhat mystified by my inner responses (maybe because it falls on the 12th house side).

6. A novice might notice that your Sun appears to be unaspected in this synastric comparison (using Ptolemaic aspects). However, your Sun's ruler, Mercury, conjunct his DSC, and his Mars falls into your Sun's ruling house (the 4th).

... Yep, I had not thought of that before.

7. You have node-Vertex aspects both ways, and what can't be seen visually (astro.com needs to work on this!) is the larger configurations formed from these links. I see... a Grand Cross formed from his Vertex points and your nodes. I think there is a house formation (hard to tell) involving your Vertex points/Saturn and his Vertex points/nodes/Uranus.

.... oh wow, I see that now. Our meeting certainly seemed fated. In fact, we had unknowingly met when I was about 10 years old when we had been paired up to play mixed doubles in a tennis tournament, by chance, even though we belonged to different clubs (he was good, I sucked). About a year later, I met his best friend on holiday and although I didn't like his friend much, he insisted on staying in contact with me until eventually ... he introduced us when I was 17.... Also about the Saturn/South Node double whammies ... although I admit freely this is not an easy aspect, I believe that it is our crowning "superglue" aspect. Y'know that "for better or worse" phrase in the wedding vows?? Well, with this aspect you get to experience this with bells on, and still somehow manage remain together. Seems like a nuclear bomb would have trouble tearing us apart. It's a mystery, I cannot explain it. It is like we feel uber-responsible for one another's well being and when it comes to the crunch, we just can't let each other fall.

8. Taineberry, what would you say is one of your biggest issues in your marriage? Every marriage has something. For example, my parents, still together (I will post their synastry soon) have always had communication issues and, as might be expected, this shows up in the synastry. What is an issue for you and your husband, and do you think it shows up in the synastry?

... Ha, this is easy I think its those inconjunct moons ... His emotional reactiveness aka explosive temper (aries moon) combined with his critical nit-picking Virgo side tends to send me into a deep and stubborn emotional underground shut-off space where no amount of yelling can reach. "la-la-la... I'm just not here even though you are standing next to me!" kind of thing.

Funny thing is that about 5 minutes after his tantrums finish, I seem to forget about the whole thing and we just carry on normally again. Why is that? Also, I am wondering what gives him such a foul temper in the first place - His Mars is in Libra which is supposed to be super-sweet and it only has (wide) soft aspects, no hard aspects. Is it his sun pluto conjunction in that painful opposition to Chiron?

I was also wondering about this - my natal sun/moon midpoint is conjunct my Mars and Uranus at 1 Virgo, and not far off Pluto. Could it be that my point of inner marriage (sun/moon midpoint) is being projected into my outer marriage and finding some kind of integration through a man(mars) who is strongly Virgo/Pluto/Uranus influenced?

Another Q ; we both have t-squares involving Saturn, Venus and Moon (amongst other assorted objects). In my case, Saturn is at the apex, and in his case it is Moon. Aside from the fact that these configurations are hideous to deal with on an individual level, do you think that they create a kind of sympatico between us? Also who do you think has the harder t-square. I don't know what it is like for him and his moon, but my inner Saturn at that apex is not my friend. Ugh.

Also ... our composite seems remarkably boring.

posted November 05, 2014 03:15 PM            

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wish he rather had a pisces moon!!!!

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Lol yea.. I can imagine that. Also a Scorp-Moon here. My soft spot is the Moon in Pisces. Their sensitivity is a blessing but on the other hand when it's painfully touched somehow you have to lay their sensitivity under a magnifying glass to GET their evasive 'tactics', as when TRULY getting it, any blame/anger/reproach against them will roll right of your shoulders which clears the air for a more lovable approach, for which they're Always open to receive.

posted November 05, 2014 04:23 PM            

Your case reminds me also a bit of this Scorp-guy with Pisces-moon who has repeatedly admitted thinking about me too much lol. Looking at him and his girl they have an exact Sun/Moon conjunction in their Composite when taking 12 NOON. I don't know her TOB but it can only differ 3 deg on both sides in that chart. They both have a natal Sun/Moon trine but hers is Sun-Aqua/Moon-Libra. So, all that air with her and all that water with him might somehow give him an emotional lack I guess... well, that's clearly the impression I get when hearing him from time to time. But yes, the Composite Sun-Moon conj/opp does seem to me a VERY strong connection. That's why I asked him; "Could it be that the grass is a lit'tle bit greener on the other side?"
"Hm.. yea yea.. who knows.. "

posted November 12, 2014 08:34 PM            

Sorry for the delay. Busy lady.

*I have not heard of David Cochrane or his theory. That's really interesting. Is he the one behind the theory that the natal Sun-Moon link indicates the nature of the relationship between one's parents (at least at the time of that child's birth)? I read that somewhere as well.

*Gotcha. I may have been thinking about Virgo-Gemini. As a Moon in Gemini, I tend to get along well with Moons in Virgos, as they are both ruled by Mercury. Now, these are obviously much more objective/clinical signs than Scorpio/Aries, so it could be that the difference in emotionalism you two experience is not nearly as comfortable. I do wonder, however, if the fact that these two signs share a ruler has anything to do with your ability to "forget his tantrums" five minutes after they finish. LOL I certainly wouldn't put up with Moon in Aries man (one of my brother's is one).

*I like your analogy describing your early Scorpio Moon manifestation. Good images.

*As for not quite understanding why he is temperamental... remember, the Moon is the seat of emotion, so it doesn't matter that his Mars is in Libra. My brother, with the Moon in Aries, IS a Libra, and it made no difference. He was always short tempered, and often very violent, growing up.

*As for your midpoint query, I would ask that question in the forum. I don't know enough about midpoints, and I think it's a very good question.

*There have been many synastric studies about mirroring partners. In other words, if you have a T-square, you often attract T-squares. Similar to the inconjunct between Sun-Moon. I imagine there is definitely an understanding between you because of it, though your T-squares feature different apexes.

*In terms of whose T-square might be harder to deal with... that's a toss up. Saturn and the Moon are equally significant in the natal chart. The apex of your T-square (Saturn) is in an angular house (10th), BUT Saturn is most comfortable in its own house. His apex (Moon) is in his 6th house. How important are these houses for each of you, individually? Your T-square involves fixed signs, his the cardinal signs. Again, which do you think would be harder to deal with? Does your husband practice astrology? If he knows nothing about it (and doesn't want to), you might try discussing his T-square with him in layman's terms and see what he thinks or feels about it. You might be surprised.

*Your "Composite seems remarkably boring", eh? [Hint, hint LOL]. Okay. First of all, you have a Grand Cross. Tell me you didn't see that. It involves the nodes, all four of the angles,Neptune, and a Moon-Saturn conjunction (oddly enough, the apexes of both of your T-squares). Now, the ruler of the the ASC IS under-aspected by itself, but ITS ruler, the Moon, is part of the above T-square. The ruler of the 7th (Uranus) is angularly placed in the 1st house. The ruler of the 5th (Jupiter) lies in the 7th house. And... to cover all the bases... the ruler of the 8th (Neptune) is in the 4th house and part of the above T-square.

posted November 12, 2014 08:44 PM            

Sorry for the delay. Busy lady.

*I have not heard of David Cochrane or his theory. That's really interesting. Is he the one behind the theory that the natal Sun-Moon link indicates the nature of the relationship between one's parents (at least at the time of that child's birth)? I read that somewhere as well.

*Gotcha. I may have been thinking about Virgo-Gemini. As a Moon in Gemini, I tend to get along well with Moons in Virgos, as they are both ruled by Mercury. Now, these are obviously much more objective/clinical signs than Scorpio/Aries, so it could be that the difference in emotionalism you two experience is not nearly as comfortable. I do wonder, however, if the fact that these two signs share a ruler has anything to do with your ability to "forget his tantrums" five minutes after they finish. LOL I certainly wouldn't put up with Moon in Aries man (one of my brother's is one).

*I like your analogy describing your early Scorpio Moon manifestation. Good images.

*As for not quite understanding why he is temperamental... remember, the Moon is the seat of emotion, so it doesn't matter that his Mars is in Libra. My brother, with the Moon in Aries, IS a Libra, and it made no difference. He was always short tempered, and often very violent, growing up.

*As for your midpoint query, I would ask that question in the forum. I don't know enough about midpoints, and I think it's a very good question.

*There have been many synastric studies about mirroring partners. In other words, if you have a T-square, you often attract T-squares. Similar to the inconjunct between Sun-Moon. I imagine there is definitely an understanding between you because of it, though your T-squares feature different apexes.

*In terms of whose T-square might be harder to deal with... that's a toss up. Saturn and the Moon are equally significant in the natal chart. The apex of your T-square (Saturn) is in an angular house (10th), BUT Saturn is most comfortable in its own house. His apex (Moon) is in his 6th house. How important are these houses for each of you, individually? Your T-square involves fixed signs, his the cardinal signs. Again, which do you think would be harder to deal with? Does your husband practice astrology? If he knows nothing about it (and doesn't want to), you might try discussing his T-square with him in layman's terms and see what he thinks or feels about it. You might be surprised.

*Your "Composite seems remarkably boring", eh? [Hint, hint LOL]. Okay. First of all, you have a Grand Cross. Tell me you didn't see that. It involves the nodes, all four of the angles,Neptune, and a Moon-Saturn conjunction (oddly enough, the apexes of both of your T-squares). Now, the ruler of the the ASC IS under-aspected by itself, but ITS ruler, the Moon, is part of the above T-square. The ruler of the 7th (Uranus) is angularly placed in the 1st house. The ruler of the 5th (Jupiter) lies in the 7th house. And... to cover all the bases... the ruler of the 8th (Neptune) is in the 4th house and part of the above T-square.