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Topic: @Aubyanne-could you please take a look at my helio chart.
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 97 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 31, 2014 02:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990: Hi Indigo,Here is my Helio chart with the asteroids you asked to include: [IMG]http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m132/Rina_Kavimalar/Heliochart_zps7f66376e.gif[/I MG]
I posted this on your other thread ATTN:Twin Flames hopeful AKA you might be a twin if.. and i asked if a conjunct of Osiris and Isis meant anything in the helio chart and you asked me to post the asteroids above. I would really appreciate it if you could give me your thoughts on it,if you have the time.THank you very much <3 IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 09:09 AM
Very nice chart. Isis conj Osiris exact AND conjunct their dispositor Saturn, the lord of karma, in domicile AND Neptune, the lord of soulmates lol points to a soulmate relationship with someone with whom you've traveled for many lifetimes. The rest of the chart is great too.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 97 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 31, 2014 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Very nice chart. Isis conj Osiris exact AND conjunct their dispositor Saturn, the lord of karma, in domicile AND Neptune, the lord of soulmates lol points to a soulmate relationship with someone with whom you've traveled for many lifetimes. The rest of the chart is great too.
Thank you very much for your interpretation Leeloo.There's one thing i'm curious about.This is the helio chart after all,wouldn't the intepretation be different?Or did you give the interpretation with the chart being the helio chart in mind?If so,forgive my questioning and thanks again
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1158 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 12:13 PM
I agree, Lee.I feel that you're definitely an Old Soul, Aurora. Nearing Ascension. End of the line. There will be much consolidation over the next few lifetimes / timelines. Depending upon how you choose to approach them. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 97 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 31, 2014 01:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I agree, Lee.I feel that you're definitely an Old Soul, Aurora. Nearing Ascension. End of the line. There will be much consolidation over the next few lifetimes / timelines. Depending upon how you choose to approach them.
What does the Isis-Osiris conjunct in the helio mean to you,if anything?
And thank you for your kind words.I apology for taking up much of your time.Thank you for the reply.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 01:06 PM
As far as I'm concerned, it means what I said What else?------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1158 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 03:49 PM
Twin Flames tend to have very specific markers according to the research iQ has done, which is continuing in a few different places, with myself included. The Helio chart is a representation of the soul, in Ceri's view, which I feel is a sound theory. When we find ISIS and OSIRIS conjunct in a Helio composite, this is one marker for Twin Flames. If it's in a natal, taken as a single aspect, I feel that Lee's delineation is the best application and most likely interpretation. Is there a specific question you have, Aurora? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 31, 2014 03:58 PM
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 31, 2014 04:00 PM
The Helio chart is the Christ consciousness chart of each individual; their perfected Christ self. Its not active unless the person is on the path to become the Christ. If there aren't any significant Helio/Natal conjunctions, I doubt this lifetime would be the one where the native is going to achieve that level.As you can see, Earth/Moon are always conjunct in the Helio chart. That means to become the Christ, the individual must unite their Mind and Heart completely. Being the Christ automatically means you have achieved oneness, and there is no more duality active in the life. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16224 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 31, 2014 04:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The Helio chart is a representation of the soul, in Ceri's view, which I feel is a sound theory.
Maybe we mean the same, but actuall I think helio is a chart of the spirit or spiritual essence or even higher Self. I do differentiate that from the soul-perspective of the Draconic chart which is more closely tied to the manifestation level of the tropical chart. oh and in my view every chart is active. The question is just how we do access it, and we probably need conjunctions to the tropical level to bring these charts "down to earth"
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 31, 2014 04:34 PM
the Heliocentric chart isn't active.. if the person isn't on that path. And that is represented by Natal to Helio conjunctions. I've studied this a lot. People who are awake have Natal to Helio conjunctions. And those yet to awaken do as well. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16224 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 31, 2014 05:13 PM
for anyone interested in reading more on the helio http://actastrology.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=50 http://astro.armyne.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=179&Itemid=174 http://www.astrologysoftware.com/resources/articles/heliogeo.asp?orig= http://revpamcrane.weebly.com/heliocentric-chart.html http://www.rasa.ws/index.php/rasa-library-articles-heliocentric-
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 97 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 01, 2014 07:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Twin Flames tend to have very specific markers according to the research iQ has done, which is continuing in a few different places, with myself included. The Helio chart is a representation of the soul, in Ceri's view, which I feel is a sound theory. When we find ISIS and OSIRIS conjunct in a Helio composite, this is one marker for Twin Flames. If it's in a natal, taken as a single aspect, I feel that Lee's delineation is the best application and most likely interpretation. Is there a specific question you have, Aurora?
Well in the other thread when i asked that question,you asked me to post my helio chart above including the asteroids.So i was wondering if you found anything in the helio chart,regarding the reason you asked me to post it with the asteroids. thank you very much for your time.
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Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 97 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 01, 2014 10:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: As far as I'm concerned, it means what I said What else?
Alright.Just wanted to clarify that. Well,what does the helio earth/moon being on the SGC mean to you?Can't seem to find any interpretation of it anywhere. And if the poster above is correct about helio-natal conjunction needed to manifest it here physically,then i'm outta luck :PBecause i have none so far unless you count helio kaali conjunct natal ascendant exact Thank you for your interpretation and in helping me out IP: Logged |
alegna Newflake Posts: 10 From: uk Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 11:10 AM
what are the other twin flame markers, asides from an Isis and Osiris conjunction in the helio composite? How many of these markers would there need to be , in a chart, to be certain that you were looking at a chart of twin flames?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 03:25 PM
The SGC makes placements there very potent. People with placements at 0 and 1 Libra have additional power, it's a marker for fame and/or leading other people, either as a model or actual leading.In Helio though, everything refers to spiritual power - I think someone there could benefit from great inspiration. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 03:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by alegna: what are the other twin flame markers, asides from an Isis and Osiris conjunction in the helio composite? How many of these markers would there need to be , in a chart, to be certain that you were looking at a chart of twin flames?
First of all, the whole synastry, the planetary synastry has to be outstanding in all ways: romantic, erotic, marital, spiritual, friendship etc. It should be a combo of mirror/siamese aspects and Yin Yang mirrors, both in the natals and the synastry itself. For example one has Moon/Venus the other has Moon/Venus too or Moon in Taurus or Libra in their natal; one has Venus/Neptune the other has Mars/Neptune as examples of the above; in the synastry, many Yin/Yang pairs, Sun/Moon Venus/Mars possibly a must. Their zodiacal energies should mirror each other, such as one has Sun in Aqua, the other has Moon in the 11th or Moon conj Uranus etc. OR Moon connected to the opp sign symbolism, in this case Leo. They have to complete each other's geometrical patterns. They have to be similar, and completing opposites at the same time. Once you see this, planetary archetypes, you can move on to asteroids and identify mythical pairs associated with true love such as Eros/Psyche, Isis/Osiris, Ulysses/Penelope, etc + romantic/marital pairs such as Amor/Valentine, Juno/Alma, Pluto/Valentine etc. They're probably more than one. This is just the theoretical model, of course. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
alegna Newflake Posts: 10 From: uk Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 04:28 PM
Thank you for the insight. I have asteroid Angel, which is also my name asteroid, on 1 degree of libra in my natal chart. What you said about the mirroring send shivers down my spine, as I had noticed a peculiar conjunction/ opposition dynamic going on in the synastry of someone I suspect might be my twinflame. It has more to do with sign and house placements, than actual aspects though. Natally, we both have the sun in the sixth I have sun in the sixth in leo He has moon in the eleventh in pisces I have venus in the seventh he has venus in libraI have mars in gem in the third he has mars in the ninth I have Jupiter in the first in pisces he has Jupiter in the twelfth in aries We both have Saturn in the twelfth I have Uranus in leo he has Uranus in the eleventh We both have Neptune in the eighth house We both have pluto in the seventh house I have pluto in opposition to chiron he has pluto conjunct chiron. But even if he is my twin flame the union can not take place in this lifetime, as there are too many obstacles which make it impossible. The connection is there , though. Very strongly IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1158 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 11:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by alegna: what are the other twin flame markers, asides from an Isis and Osiris conjunction in the helio composite? How many of these markers would there need to be , in a chart, to be certain that you were looking at a chart of twin flames?
Several conjunctions, on top of patterns in synastry, typically repeating across systems: Helio, Draconic, and Tropical. It's no cookbook procedure. It takes time and study. I suppose it also helps, being a Twin Flame myself. They say we can 'sense' others. I laughed at that -- until it started happening. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1158 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 11:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: First of all, the whole synastry, the planetary synastry has to be outstanding in all ways: romantic, erotic, marital, spiritual, friendship etc. It should be a combo of mirror/siamese aspects and Yin Yang mirrors, both in the natals and the synastry itself. For example one has Moon/Venus the other has Moon/Venus too or Moon in Taurus or Libra in their natal; one has Venus/Neptune the other has Mars/Neptune as examples of the above; in the synastry, many Yin/Yang pairs, Sun/Moon Venus/Mars possibly a must. Their zodiacal energies should mirror each other, such as one has Sun in Aqua, the other has Moon in the 11th or Moon conj Uranus etc. OR Moon connected to the opp sign symbolism, in this case Leo.They have to complete each other's geometrical patterns. They have to be similar, and completing opposites at the same time. Once you see this, planetary archetypes, you can move on to asteroids and identify mythical pairs associated with true love such as Eros/Psyche, Isis/Osiris, Ulysses/Penelope, etc + romantic/marital pairs such as Amor/Valentine, Juno/Alma, Pluto/Valentine etc. They're probably more than one. This is just the theoretical model, of course.
Honestly? I concur with the above. And when you see it ... you know it. It's a bit ... flabbergasting. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 02, 2014 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by alegna: Thank you for the insight. I have asteroid Angel, which is also my name asteroid, on 1 degree of libra in my natal chart. What you said about the mirroring send shivers down my spine, as I had noticed a peculiar conjunction/ opposition dynamic going on in the synastry of someone I suspect might be my twinflame. It has more to do with sign and house placements, than actual aspects though. Natally, we both have the sun in the sixth I have sun in the sixth in leo He has moon in the eleventh in pisces I have venus in the seventh he has venus in libraI have mars in gem in the third he has mars in the ninth I have Jupiter in the first in pisces he has Jupiter in the twelfth in aries We both have Saturn in the twelfth I have Uranus in leo he has Uranus in the eleventh We both have Neptune in the eighth house We both have pluto in the seventh house I have pluto in opposition to chiron he has pluto conjunct chiron. But even if he is my twin flame the union can not take place in this lifetime, as there are too many obstacles which make it impossible. The connection is there , though. Very strongly
I think this is the kind of thing we want to see, when it comes to mirrored symbolism Intensive aspects between planets need to be there as well - and Yin/Yang aspects - plus a completion by the other in geometrical terms. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 02, 2014 03:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Several conjunctions, on top of patterns in synastry, typically repeating across systems: Helio, Draconic, and Tropical.
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alegna Newflake Posts: 10 From: uk Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 02, 2014 05:55 AM
Thank you all for your insights again. I appreciate it so much. I have discovered that my planets do, in fact form aspect patterns in his chart. Placing my mercury in his natal would form a kite, for example. The helio composite contains a grand cross. There are ,indeed several conjunctions in all systems, and Isis and Osiris are conjunct in the natal composite, davison, draco and helio, although it is only helio where they are exact. In all the other systems they are separated by two degrees. I never really looked at the draco before, but there are some amazing, exact conjunctions there. My draco sun on his natal moon, His natal venus on my draco ascendant, My natal north node on his draco mc, his draco pluto on my natal sun, I am blown away!! In shock.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16224 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 02, 2014 06:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Honestly? I concur with the above. And when you see it ... you know it. It's a bit ... flabbergasting.
I know what you mean. With some synastries/ composites whatever I just feel this electrical circuit course through me. Like I can literally feel some electricity course through my veins, whereas others, well, there is no visceral response at all. It could be that it is something that is connected to my own chart though. BTW did I mention that I was dreaming of a wedding cerenomy from friday to saturday? In that dream there were also 3 degrees specified (I suppose though relevant to me only. lol). and these were all in Scorpio, 19°, 21° and 23°. Maybe I should look these up in several systems (tropical, Draco, helio etc.)
Sabians of these are:
A Woman Draws Away Two Dark Curtains Closing The Entrance To A Sacred Pathway Hunters Shooting Wild Ducks After Having Heard An Inspired Individual Deliver His "Sermon On The Mount," Crowds Are Returning Home
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16224 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 02, 2014 06:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by alegna: I am blown away!! In shock.
that, imo, is one of the most telling signs. If it`s not mindblowing, it would not be enough. IP: Logged | |