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GoingDutch
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posted November 01, 2014 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 01, 2014 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 01, 2014 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh. Curious.

I have URA opposite CHIRON, and am in a nonmonogamous / open marriage. I guess you'd say it's poly; just my husband, my partner, and myself.

I always presumed it was my EROS/MOON=LILITH, though.

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posted November 01, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 01, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
So is this going turn out true? So EVENTUALLY he going to cheats? Or going down to the route of polygamous relationship?

Some say Uranus in 7th House also means unconventional relationships. Whoa this sound freaky, like he after an rich old cougar woman twice his age or something, smh
So he probably going to left me to go for an older woman?


Didn't you say you two are from different cultures / racial backgrounds? That could be the unconventional relationship. Just an idea.

I can't see the image, but in another thread you said Venus in Virgo right? They are loyal helpers from what I know... not cheaters.

However, I don't think astrology can definitively say someone is a cheater or isn't. I think that's more about life experience (learned behavior) and maturity level.

You're certainly interested in him. Give him a chance already.

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posted November 01, 2014 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya know,

It's totally a stereotype that Uranus in the 7th or Uranus aspects to personal planets always results in cheaters. No. It doesn't always work that way. It's true that some strongly Uranian people get restless, and have many relationships, but not all of them are like that. I'm sure many would be somewhat offended at the presumption that they are. It can also manifest in just picking a distinctive partner, or a relationship that seems like an 'odd match' for some reason.

There was a poster on this site called YoursTruelyAlways who used to talk about his marriage all the time. He had Uranus in the 7th house, and his wife's Venus was exactly conjunct his Uranus by synastry (I did a few readings for him). They had been married for over 20 years and had kids. What was unusual about the relationship was that he was asian and she was a white American from the south. They seemed like an odd match. Also, the relationship started suddenly, and they got married after a very short whirlwind courtship. Uranus is also associated with sudden unexpected happenings, and their relationship started like this. No cheating involved.

Uranus is a very contradictory unpredictable planet. It likes unusual things, and unlikely scenarios. Only, this can manifest in lots of different ways. It's not like all strongly Uranus types are cheaters.

The person who gave you this reading has a rather narrow way of looking at charts, and seems overly fatalistic to me. See the kind of person he is for yourself. Make up your own mind. Could the Uranus in his 7th actually be manifesting in his relationship with you. Are you and he an unusual match for some reason? That could be it.

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posted November 01, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 01, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
So is this going turn out true? So EVENTUALLY he going to cheats? Or going down to the route of polygamous relationship?

Some say Uranus in 7th House also means unconventional relationships. Whoa this sound freaky, like he after an rich old cougar woman twice his age or something, smh
So he probably going to left me to go for an older woman?


Cheating and polyamory / nonmonogamy are in NO way related. At all. Polyamorists are not philanderers. The community actually frowns -- heavily -- upon infidelity.

I just found it curious, as I've often wondered if it might -- in SOME cases -- be a marker for alternative relating styles.

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posted November 02, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in the 7th (and Venus in Virgo) and I most definitely do not, have never, and will never "cheat."

I do, however, have a long history (because I'm old, probably old enough to be your grandmother) of "unconventional" relationships. Unconventional in the sense that my partners have been much older or several years younger than me, or of a different ethnicity.

I guess you could call me a serial monogamist, usually with long periods of celibacy in between. I have never, and would never, leave a partner for someone else. The relationships ended for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with cheating by me or my partner (and one is still going strong; not only is he of a different ethnicity, but we've known each other for more than 20 years, although we've only been together as a couple for 1+ years).

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posted November 02, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Cheating and polyamory / nonmonogamy are in NO way related. At all. Polyamorists are not philanderers. The community actually frowns -- heavily -- upon infidelity.

I just found it curious, as I've often wondered if it might -- in SOME cases -- be a marker for alternative relating styles.


THANK YOU for saying that.

Likewise, bisexual or pansexual people don't sleep around more or participate in threesomes by default.

Bisexual women in particular aren't sex toys designed to "spice up" otherwise monogamous relationships.

Just throwing that out there since you got me started!

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posted November 02, 2014 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i aquarius asc, aquarius moon, venus square uranus and venus square neptune

im not a cheater, just date people different from me, like different race, nationality, age etc

venus squ uranus does not always manifest as cheater or serial dater

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posted November 02, 2014 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy's venus/mars aspects alot of his personal/outer planets.

That is a trademark for cheating. He has no Saturn aspects either so that's a major red flag.

People who have their sexual planets (venus,mars) aspecting their inner/outer planets usually have a very high sex drive that cannot be contained.

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posted November 02, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
The guy's venus/mars aspects alot of his personal/outer planets.

That is a trademark for cheating. He has no Saturn aspects either so that's a major red flag.

People who have their sexual planets (venus,mars) aspecting their inner/outer planets usually have a very high sex drive that cannot be contained.


Sorry but I disagree with this. A lot of aspects to Venus and Mars in the natal does not necessarily indicate cheating. I admit that people who cheat can have certain hallmarks in their chart, but a different person with the same aspects could use their energy in a completely different way. People can choose how to use their energy. A person with a Neptune square could be an artistic dreamer or a drug addict. It's their choice what they do with their Neptunian energy.

The people who ask questions on this forum are real people with feelings. We can not just go around saying fatalistic things to people like this unless we are sure we are right.

Also, the guy the OP was asking about has Saturn conjunct his Dsc. This is a hallmark of someone who longs for loyalty and stability. With Uranus in the mix he wants a dependable long-term relationship perhaps with someone who is an odd, interesting match for him. It's worth noting that his Dsc/Saturn conjunction is Scorpio which is a rather possessive sign. Trust and fidelity are likely to be very important to him. Uranus in the 7th adds a desire for an intellectually stimulating partner that adds something 'different' to his life.

His Uranus in the 7th square the Moon, and Mars opposite Moon, does indicate he could have a few erratic, temperamental mood swings, but that's not the end of the world. Venus conjunct Mars indicates he is passionate in love, but the conjunction is in Virgo, which is not a sign prone to excess in general. I wouldn't see that as an indication of cheating at all. One nice aspect he has is Mercury trine Jupiter exact... He is enthusiastic, full of ideas, and prefers to look at the positive side of things. Being a Libra Sun/Mercury means he is considerate and would rather get along with others most of the time, however he dislikes unfairness and injustice.

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posted November 03, 2014 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest, one should be looking at the Venus in order to decipher if a person will cheat..and I mean EVERYBODY is capable of cheating. BUT if I had to pick I'd say a mutable venus..

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It would be wise to listen to Lotis White!!

What they are saying speaks right to my heart!
Uranus is very involved in my synastry with Barbie and it's much like YTA, who she mentioned.
My Uranus conjunct her Venus, my Venus trine hers. And more...
We met quickly, married quickly, are interracial, from didifferent parts of the country. I'm quite tall and she's under 5 feet.

To further support what LW is telling you. I agree, you can't look at a chart and say, "yep. They're a cheater." For one, synastry can change everything. Even without that, you still don't know.
I have Venus in 12, square Neptune. Mars and mercury in 12, square moon. Depending on who you ask, several markers for infidelity, drug and alcohol abuse, violence. (I was told my sun square jupiter contributes to that also).

I'm not violent unless I really need to be, which is a rare situation indeed.
I've NEVER cheated in my life. (did find myself involved with a married woman once)
I despise drugs and drink very little. One or twice a year.

My Venus square Neptune and Venus in 12 is just a romantic dreamer. But if you take the general conconsensus I must have cheated on everyone.

So, in these cases I think you are better off just listening to your gut.

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posted November 03, 2014 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:

People who have their sexual planets (venus,mars) aspecting their inner/outer planets usually have a very high sex drive that cannot be contained.

Do you suggest that it's best to have Venus and Mars unaspected in the natal chart?

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posted November 03, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
The guy's venus/mars aspects alot of his personal/outer planets.

That is a trademark for cheating. He has no Saturn aspects either so that's a major red flag.

People who have their sexual planets (venus,mars) aspecting their inner/outer planets usually have a very high sex drive that cannot be contained.


Having a high sex drive does also not mean someone cheats. It means they need to find someone with an equally high sex drive.

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posted November 03, 2014 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 03, 2014 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 03, 2014 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoingDutch:
May I ask, what different cultures you and your wife from? Me and this Libra are also interracial, but ours is not the typical 'norms" interracial, so I'm shaky since it will add more stress into our relationship, one day we will probably snap.


She is black, I am white. Though becoming much more common. For a long time it was mostly black males with white females in black/white couples.

She's also much younger.
From a state 650 miles away. We met here, on LL.
What's fascinating is without knowing at all leeloo asked about it based on our Uranus in synastry and composite. Pinpointing that and our quick start based on Uranus.

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posted November 03, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 03, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Do you suggest that it's best to have Venus and Mars unaspected in the natal chart?


if only it was possible :P

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posted November 03, 2014 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And to Gemini30, where do you see his high sex drive? He have both Virgo Venus and Virgo Mars. And those are picky traits, pay attentionto details, choosy type, like he will always be searching for the 'perfect girl in his eyes', and once find, he will settle down.
I don't find Virgo Venus and Virgo Mars is a traits for high sex drive though.


I never look really look at the "signs." I always look at the aspects.

He has:

Venus conjunction Mars: People with this conjunction are very sexual people. No need to explain that one.

Moon opposition Venus: Cafeastrology and other sites have explained that where there is a hard aspect between the Moon and Venus in the natal, the person is considered highly sexual, being sexually active and quite lustful. Another site called oocities.com has stated that there is misuse with sex.

Moon opposition Mars: Having your moon aspecting your mars, whether harsh or harminous, makes you automatically sexual and lustful.

Mars Square Uranus: This is battle tested energy and when a sexual person has this aspect, it's extreme fireworks. Just ask Madonna.

I'm not saying he's going to cheat on you but do understand your man is most likely a very sexual guy. To please a sexual man or woman, one must also be sexual.

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posted November 03, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He brings up good points..with mars conjunct venus in the 5th squaring uranus and ruler of the 5th conjunct Sun in the 5th he will have a high sex drive and that moon tight aspect to uranus can mean mood swings and having on and off feelings.

Him having a high sex drive and need for excitement and romance and you been asexual its possible that he will grow restless and end up cheating bc he does not feel satisfied sexually.

You are so challenging that you are providing a lot of excitement right now but once you give in and the reality that each of you have total opposite sex drives kicks in it will lead to problems and possibly him getting restless and looking elsewhere.

You should post your synastry and composite with him.

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