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Topic: Helio Composite - a creative and expansive relationship
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 03:31 PM
I got inspired by KarmicMoon to look at mine properly, since I never did. Check the conjunctions with the tropical composite and your natals since these are the most important (Draco too, perhaps): they show a luminous, enchanted lol spiritual relationship in which every dimension of the relationship (at least the ones touched by conjunctions) can be infused with the joyous, purified, creative, spiritual glow of our star, the Sun. The solar energy is infused into the relationship in this life, its manifestation, through these conjunctions (oppositions too, since we're talking Yin/Yang here). Many connections show a relationship that will bring spiritual growth and expansion, getting in touch with your higher selves together, as you live together. How does your composite Helio look and what are the connections? I'd like to know how you feel those, especially. Do they match, this concept? Here's mine: ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 10, 2014 03:48 PM
LOLDid you sense I was playing around with mine? BTW I love how connected and stable yours is! I mean especially the quadrangular structure with the quinkunxes in the midst IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 762 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 03:48 PM
Here's mine with Mr. Newbie Things are going quite well I might add [/URL] IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 10, 2014 03:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by IntuitiveJ: Here's mine with Mr. Newbie Things are going quite well I might add [/URL]
and here I see that stable sturcture too, interlaced with the Grand trine. very nice IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 03:52 PM
My chart will put Moon/Earth in opposition to the composite geo Sun, of course, and in conjunction with the composite NN. This also conjuncts my NN and his.Our nodes are therefore aligned with the Earth and Moon. Mercury in Scorpio sextile Venus/Union exact, in connection to all that. This Mercury rules MC in the geo Composite and it is the NN Star: geo composite NN 19 Sag, geo composite Mercury 19 Sag -so the connection is obvious. This Scorpio Mercury disp by Libra Pluto connects to Venus as well, plus it conjuncts: geo composite Venus/ASC, his natal Moon and my natal MC. I think there's a nice dance here between Earth, Moon, Mercury (composite Sun and MC ruler and NN star) and the nodal axis. With Venus in the middle lol As you can see the Trapezoid pours into Vesta. It's close to my Lust. Juno/Ceres pours into composite Lilith(0) and his Eros (2) and Mercury (chart ruler, MC/SN ruler) and sits on my natal Vertex, opposing my Moon. Mars/Aphrodite is on the other side and I see here how a combined archetype of Juno/Ceres/Lilith Mars/Aphrodite is actually flowing through him into the relationship. Jupiter infuses our composite IC, my Ceres, his Alma/Pholus and my Venus at 6 Virgo and also brings expansion to our Venus/Mars mutable Cross. Eros is right on my Jupiter/Juno opposing my Aphrodite: I think I'm the channel for this solar Eros energy into the relationship lol Alma conjuncts his natal Sun (1) and opposes mine exact - connected by our higher selves, I hope it is. Cupido in Taurus conjuncts composite DSC exact and opposes composite Venus. Amor/Saturn is the same as in geo. Venus/Union conjuncts my natal Sun, opposes his and there is this dance between a unifying Venus (me) and Alma (him). Pluto is the same as our Pluto, also conjuncts composite Moon. Valentine conjuncts his natal Vesta exact, also composite Valentine with Lust conjuncting my own Valentine (0) Uranus is of course the same, fueling the meeting between Moon/Earth and Mars/Aphrodite ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 10, 2014 03:55 PM
oursbtw there are some more Yods, and a Water GT and of course Star of David if I use the asteroids as well. [/URL]
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: LOLDid you sense I was playing around with mine? BTW I love how connected and stable yours is! I mean especially the quadrangular structure with the quinkunxes in the midst
Thank you, Ceri, I love it too - and it's connected to minor aspects as well. Haha this must be our Mercury/Mercury Quintile, you and me, we have some nice wavelengths there ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:00 PM
It looks very nice, IJ...Juno/Alma, Uranus/Cupido wow very nice...what are the connections with geo?------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:01 PM
Yours is of course awesome Ceri ...I think I've seen it before.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 762 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 04:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: It looks very nice, IJ...Juno/Alma, Uranus/Cupido wow very nice...what are the connections with geo?
Thanks Lee & Ceri! Side by side as I'm still trying to fig out all the aspects [/URL] IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8969 From: Mordor Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 10, 2014 04:14 PM
Me and Loki for kicks and giggles.
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2688 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 10, 2014 04:26 PM
I'm posting mine minus 'aspects lines to all' as it was much too criss-crossed. No pretty patterns emerged in the hello itself. Perhaps I need to look at the conjunctions with the tropical comp or natals.Not sure what's noteworthy in the first instance? IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 400 From: Wherever the world takes me Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 04:58 PM
Nvm. lol I just got a reading that said that synastry didn't matter, and D and I were doomed.
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CappyLove Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Ireland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 05:29 PM
How does this look?? What is it that I must look for?? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 11, 2014 04:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Eros is right on my Jupiter/Juno opposing my Aphrodite: I think I'm the channel for this solar Eros energy into the relationship lol
that is how it works I believe. Interestingly it seems Mr Sag is in very strong connection with our helio composite. I just saw on a first glance that helio Earth is right on his IC, which is the entrypoint into incarnation as they say. Of course this spills over to our stellium of Sun, Moon, Mercury and Sun on his MC on the other side. That helio Mars is also right on his Vertex-Aphrodite-Saturn-DESC, and on my Draco DESC, so possibly more direct for him, more karmic for me.
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Selene Knowflake Posts: 1076 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted November 11, 2014 04:42 AM
Helio C.Earth exactly opposite our tropical synastrical Jupiter/Neptune conjunction.
H.C.Mercury conjunct my n.Jupiter 1, my n.Moon 2 H.C.Venus conjunct his n.Uranus 2, opposite my n.Mars 3 H.C. Mars conjunct my n.South node exact, his n.ASC exact H.C. Jupiter conjunct my n.Venus exact H.C. Neptune conjunct my n.Uranus exact H.C. Pluto conjunct n.C.Pluto exact, conjunct n.C.Moon 2.30, n.C.IC 3 H.C.Venus conjunct his n.South node 2 H.C. Uranus conjunct n.C.Uranus exact IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 06:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: that is how it works I believe. Interestingly it seems Mr Sag is in very strong connection with our helio composite. I just saw on a first glance that helio Earth is right on his IC, which is the entrypoint into incarnation as they say. Of course this spills over to our stellium of Sun, Moon, Mercury and Sun on his MC on the other side. That helio Mars is also right on his Vertex-Aphrodite-Saturn-DESC, and on my Draco DESC, so possibly more direct for him, more karmic for me.
Very interesting. In a way, he embodies the ideal man in this relationship, he would be at his best.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 06:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by CappyLove: How does this look?? What is it that I must look for??
Can you list what I described in the OP< the connections with your natals and geo composite? ------------------
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1626 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 07:16 AM
@Lee: very symmetrical and cozy, as all your charts are. I like your asteroids placements, especially Aphrodite conjunct Mars lol, nice pair. I never thought of compare the Helio Composite to tropical but looking at mine now, it is weird: except for Moon/Earth and Venus, all the rest of the planets remain in the same position as Tropical Composite (they conjunct themselves 0-2 degrees), is there mathematical explanation for this?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 11, 2014 08:28 AM
Uranus, Neptune, Pluto are always close to their tropical counterparts. Saturn and Jupiter usually move not that far either, though a few degrees. However Mercury, Venus, Mars can be in quite different regions of the zodiac.BTW is your helio composite Venus also very close to conjunct or opposite your helio davison Venus? It is not always as tight as in mr Sag and my case (just a few minutes difference), but I noticed they usually end up close together (or opposite). No clue why this is so. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 16380 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 11, 2014 08:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Very interesting. In a way, he embodies the ideal man in this relationship, he would be at his best.
I am not sold on the idea the Helios represents our ideal Self though. However, he would be the conduit about that Martian essence/ spirit. Now our tropical composite Mars is conjunct the NN, and rules the SN, and funny enough is conjunct his own natal Pluto. So yes, it seems to reemphasize that it might be more of his personal role in our little drama. Interesting also that the tropical composite Mars on 23 Libra is conjunct helio composite Mercury on 24 Libra and Draco composite Eros on 23 Libra. Oh and conjunct his natal Adonis on my natal Babylon on 24 Libra, with my natal Adonis on 27 Libra. (it always leads me back to Babylon, every.single.synastry. I have ever looked up. lol) IP: Logged |
CappyLove Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Ireland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 09:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Can you list what I described in the OP< the connections with your natals and geo composite?
Ammmm I am still a beginner, I would like to learn though! Slowly but surely get there I am not sure so here are the 3 charts requested my natal His natal Composite IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1626 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 02:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Uranus, Neptune, Pluto are always close to their tropical counterparts. Saturn and Jupiter usually move not that far either, though a few degrees. However Mercury, Venus, Mars can be in quite different regions of the zodiac.BTW is your helio composite Venus also very close to conjunct or opposite your helio davison Venus? It is not always as tight as in mr Sag and my case (just a few minutes difference), but I noticed they usually end up close together (or opposite). No clue why this is so.
Ah thanks Ceri for explaining. My helio composite Venus oppose helio davison Venus by several minutes, I have no idea why though. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 03:25 PM
Reese and Astro keen and CappyLove, could you add your superpositions with your natals/the comp? as described in the OP. The Helio chart per se doesn't say much. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7663 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 03:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I am not sold on the idea the Helios represents our ideal Self though. However, he would be the conduit about that Martian essence/ spirit. Now our tropical composite Mars is conjunct the NN, and rules the SN, and funny enough is conjunct his own natal Pluto. So yes, it seems to reemphasize that it might be more of his personal role in our little drama. Interesting also that the tropical composite Mars on 23 Libra is conjunct helio composite Mercury on 24 Libra and Draco composite Eros on 23 Libra. Oh and conjunct his natal Adonis on my natal Babylon on 24 Libra, with my natal Adonis on 27 Libra. (it always leads me back to Babylon, every.single.synastry. I have ever looked up. lol)
I agree with you, Ceri, it's not the chart of the ideal partner, more like he would display his masculine higher self in this relationship, he would be a solar, spiritualized version of himself as a man in the framework of this relationship, IMO. IP: Logged |