posted November 14, 2014 03:23 PM            

I thought about compiling a method of profiling someone's destined spouse, with your help

Assuming we look at several charts/markers to build up this profile, what should we look for?

This of course includes someone's type, but I was thinking more about the element of fate in relation to the partner suggested by the chart.

Juno, Draco and some Personas immediately came to mind...what Personas do you suggest?

What shall we look for, in general?
If someone asks you to tell them whom they will marry (love), clues about this person, what do you look for?

posted November 14, 2014 03:48 PM            

For partner prognostication, I used to look at pattern completion and weak spots. Pattern completion is pretty cut and dry, but the "weak spots" I sort of sniff out based on reading instinct, no particular formula there. Lately, however, I started using progressions more. So I try to connect them with natal configurations to see what might be yearning for an activation.

posted November 14, 2014 03:53 PM            

then you look to see when they conjunct by solar arc. thats the age they meet.

which house does the conjunction fall? thats the meeting place.

which sign is the sun/venus conjunction in? thats what the relationship will be like.

aspects to venus represent what the person will be like.

well in my case it happened when i was 25. last year.
i have venus in gemini but the conjunction happened in cancer in my 9th house. i met him while traveling abroad. and I'm much younger than him (cancer)

posted November 14, 2014 03:55 PM            

Yes, I'm experiencing astonishing results with Persona charts when it comes to describing a certain area reflected by that Persona and with Persona and Persona/natal comparisons between people. For example, could you post your NN Persona (preferably with equal to look at your Shadows too )> It should describe your life path pretty accurately.

Post it here or in the Persona thread.

About this thread's topic...I've been looking at some NN Personas and it seems that the DSC there, the ruler and Juno match the spouse quite accurately. I'll come back with some examples.

That's where I got the idea about this profile.

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posted November 14, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
you look at relationship between sun and venus.

then you look to see when they conjunct by solar arc. thats the age they meet.

which house does the conjunction fall? thats the meeting place.

which sign is the sun/venus conjunction in? thats what the relationship will be like.

aspects to venus represent what the person will be like.

well in my case it happened when i was 25. last year.
i have venus in gemini but the conjunction happened in cancer in my 9th house. i met him while traveling abroad. and I'm much younger than him (cancer)

my venus is in wide opposition to saturn/uranus. he is an older partner. controlling too.

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Interesting. So you mean when my SA Venus conj his SA Sun and viceversa? Or when my SA Venus conj my SA Sun as the moment/place when I'm supposed to meet my soulmate?

Or you mean SA Venus conj natal Sun?

posted November 14, 2014 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Sorry I meant Natal Venus conjunct Sun and vice versa.

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I still don't get it, sorry, my mind is slow today

could you describe the method one more time?

which is SA and which is natal?

is this between charts or natal only?

posted November 14, 2014 04:09 PM            

To determine what kind of spouse the person will have, you look at the aspects the natives Venus makes to other planets and thats what the person will be like.

which house does the Solar Arc conjunction fall? Thats the place they will meet.

posted November 14, 2014 04:14 PM            

This is only 2 days after my birth, btw, so most placements are where they were in the natal.
Here's 2 notable links:
-MC/IC axis exactly on natal AC/DC axis. Persona MC = natal AC.
-hmmm, Sun/Moon midpoint exactly on his natal Venus. Suspicious... Stop it, astrology.

posted November 14, 2014 04:46 PM            

Looking the destined spouse alone, I see:

A very intelligent and cardinal fellow and exquisitely Uranian

It's not impossible he is a foreigner.

Are you a bit addicted to intelligent, Virgo like beauty in men?

BTW, I think your spouse is related to the Osiris myth - whatever Osiris rules and does in the pantheon lol

It's very possible he's your boss or someone you work for.

Older age marriage leading to an awesome Vesta/Union, Cap style

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posted November 14, 2014 06:47 PM            

A little about how my preferences link to what you see in my Nodal Persona chart...
I do like Uranian energy, for sure. My Sun/Moon mp is in AQU, and so is my Jupiter. My Moon is conjunct Uranus(AQU), in SAG(Jupiter). So a link there, definitely.

Now intelligence is a bit of a funny issue with me. I like clever men, for sure. But I also like being the most clever person in the room, unfortunately, so I don't like competition from my partner. Probably that AQU Jupiter of mine. I like a partner with an intelligence different than mine. I'm "book smart", I like men that are "physically smart", more wise, really. I have a Chiron-Mars conjunction, I ascribe it to that.

I have literally never been attracted to someone from my own country, so that is a 100% hit there. I LOVE Virgo in men. It's totally my thing. I like them a little shy, it gets my Aries Venus very excited. Someone to chase, you know. And they are notoriously resistant, of course.

I like that you mention the Osiris myth, and I've been thinking about it. I do have this need to sort of, be the one to "put my partner together", like Isis did for Osiris. To gather the chaotic parts of them and help them be someone greater. So I think I really can feel that one.

posted November 14, 2014 09:19 PM            

DSC exactly conjunct his natal Sun and MC.
Uranus & Mercury tightly conjunct his natal Jupiter, my natal Neptune AND our composite Sun
NN & Saturn tightly conjunct his natal Moon

posted November 14, 2014 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
you just look at your own natal chart, not the synastry. look at the relationship and distance between Sun and Venus. when the Sun conjuncts Venus by solar arc or vice versa, thats the age they meet.

To determine what kind of spouse the person will have, you look at the aspects the natives Venus makes to other planets and thats what the person will be like.

which house does the Solar Arc conjunction fall? Thats the place they will meet.

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I have this aspect coming up. However I think it's 2 or 3 years away.. I'll have to come back and update

My natal sun at 16 Leo
My SA and progressed Venus is at 13 Leo
3 more degrees before the conjunction. The conjunction will take place in my h6

My natal Venus is at 2 cancer. Right around the same time, my natal sun will progress in to libra.

posted November 15, 2014 12:42 AM            

I found:

*My NN persona
- Juno 13sco34 ---> 2 deg from his natal Sun
- Pluto conj Venus 5sco22 & 53 ---> 1 deg from his natal Pluto/Vesta conj
- I have a kite, chiron on apex @ 13gem05 in 1H ---> conj exactly with his natal chiron. Sabian symbol for 13gem is "Bridging Physical Space And Social Distinctions, Two Men Communicate Telepathically". We synchronize like crazy!!! Always jinxing...

posted November 15, 2014 02:42 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
when the Sun conjuncts Venus by solar arc or vice versa, thats the age they meet.

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How do I find out when that happens?

posted November 15, 2014 07:57 AM            

The NN-Persona is more relevant in terms of our individual destiny. Though this of course includes connections and encounters, it does not necessarily mean that everyone finds destiny in their marriage.

However if using the NN-persona I would pay a lot of attention if Juno, DESC, 7th house ruler, Venus etc. are strong nad prominent, as this might indicate a destiny strongly connected with one`s spouse.

the SA Sun-natal Venus conjunction or vice versa can be seen in astro.com, if you pick natal, progressions and solar arc combined.

EDIT:
Interestingly Mr Sag was having pSun conjunct nVenus with an orb of 0°00 (so really, no orb at all - this was valid for 5 days, and we met on the 3rd day of that timeframe, so could not get any more precise. lol), when we met.

I wasn´t having such a Venus-Sun-conjunction, though there were some minor occurences:

- my sa Venus semisquare nSun 0°44a
- my pVenus conjunct nMoon and pAntivertex
- my pJupiter conjunct nJuno (1 minute)
(he was having pPsyche conjunct nEros)

- my tpSun conjunct tpASC on n Juno
- tpMoon square tp Sun exact (and trine nMoon)
- pMoon square pSun exact as well

posted November 15, 2014 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
How do I find out when that happens?

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You count the degrees between the two planets. Number of degrees = age meeting should happen.

posted November 15, 2014 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
Thank you Lee! When are you going to write an instruction manual on your technique already?

A little about how my preferences link to what you see in my Nodal Persona chart...
I do like Uranian energy, for sure. My Sun/Moon mp is in AQU, and so is my Jupiter. My Moon is conjunct Uranus(AQU), in SAG(Jupiter). So a link there, definitely.

Now intelligence is a bit of a funny issue with me. I like clever men, for sure. But I also like being the most clever person in the room, unfortunately, so I don't like competition from my partner. Probably that AQU Jupiter of mine. I like a partner with an intelligence different than mine. I'm "book smart", I like men that are "physically smart", more wise, really. I have a Chiron-Mars conjunction, I ascribe it to that.

I have literally never been attracted to someone from my own country, so that is a 100% hit there. I LOVE Virgo in men. It's totally my thing. I like them a little shy, it gets my Aries Venus very excited. Someone to chase, you know. And they are notoriously resistant, of course.

I like that you mention the Osiris myth, and I've been thinking about it. I do have this need to sort of, be the one to "put my partner together", like Isis did for Osiris. To gather the chaotic parts of them and help them be someone greater. So I think I really can feel that one.

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I see Juno in Virgo and DSC in Gem, so he's definitely Mercurial - that's why I said intelligent but maybe Mercurial in a different way? You do however like physical beauty in men, that's what I think, denying is futile