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Aubyanne
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posted November 17, 2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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his mars anti-scion her chiron
his jupiter contra-antiscion her jupiter dw


There we go. THAT's what I wanted to see. Fascinating, as he's taking the MARS energy here to her CHIRON. I can't help but feel that this will have a financial impact. I mean, that's a 1º to her 2C, AND it's 1H.

His MARS and JUPITER are also parallel. So, that links the two together. Bear in mind, it's HER JUPITER that's the skipped step. So now we see how the MARS contrascia CHIRON and JUPITER contrascia are linked.

OH! And GEM / TAU! Sorry! I forgot the 12H interceptions.

So his 2H JUPITER is in her intercepted GEM in her 12H. Ahhhhh. Okay.

Ooooh. These are financial issues in the present, undeniably. But, hey, it's JUPITER. The fact that it's linked to his MARS and her CHIRON is what gives me that karmic feel, which would help her sort out certain issues. Lest we forget her NNODE and CHIRON are both in her 12H, in that interception.

Okay, I'm going to need a bit of time to unravel these interceptions. There's SO strong in this relationship, and that can reveal a lot that's being hidden, or won't activate without certain influences.

I think since her JUPITER is conjunct her DSC, 1º, we have to consider that the relationship itself is the skipped step. Interesting that his NODES are 5H/11H, though. That's not an indicator of longevity, but it is of romance. 11H, though, is a very nice house to have present (which is where his SNODE lies.) Falls in her 4H (NNODE) and 10H (SNODE), too.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm curious to see the contrascions. There's no traditional skipped step. I hesitate to use her DSC as a legit square to his NODES, you know? 2º is fine in terms of orb, but I'd much rather prefer there be antiscia and contrascia involved here.

Nevermind! JUPITER. Her JUPITER makes a 2º square, AND it's Retrograde. A-HA!

I'll be back with more on that. This is going to take some noodle-twisting, as it's not technically ruling any house, but is intercepted. The fact it's opposite his BML is pointing to real issues of jealousy, versus obligation and systems of values.

Yeah. I'm starting to see how things could've gone wrong before.


they have a north node ascendant double whammy, square one way and conjunction the other

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posted November 17, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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his jupiter anti-scion her ascendant also lol

Yeah. Time to pay the piper, that's for sure. Man, I know how THAT feels!

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posted November 17, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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they have a north node ascendant double whammy, square one way and conjunction the other

Yeah, I just wish that they ACTUALLY squared each other; or, his NODAL axis actually fell across her IC/MC.

There's a reason they don't. There's a reason they BOTH have these interceptions. I can feel they're very significant. I have to investigate that.

Karmic relationships, hence 'self-limiting', really are on a stopwatch all their own.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kaianna:
her progressions

sun-10 virgo
venus- 1 libra
moon- 12 sag
mars 8 sag

his progressions

sun- 20 aries
venus- 9 taurus
moon- 23 taurus
mars- 29 cancer
saturn- 23 leo


her natal
sun-11 leo
venus- 24 leo
moon- 0 scorpio
mars- 22 scorpio


his natal
sun-13 pisces
venus-23 pisces
moon- 15 capricorn
mars-22 cancer

his progressed saturn is conjunct her natal venus


Ahhhh. Okay. They're feeling his pSUN trine her nVENUS, and the pMOON square his nSUN.

Her nVENUS still isn't getting any love from his pMARS, though. Instead, her pVENUS is getting a 1º sextile from his pMARS.

That's enough to LAUNCH a relationship. But is it enough to sustain it? I forget how long those progressed aspects can run.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And great work, kaianna.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DSC ruler at 0 Aries wow...how do you feel that? lol


I always wonder that! I ALWAYS notice 0º ARIES. Anywhere. And I'm like, 'WOW! How IS that for you?'

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posted November 17, 2014 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And great work, kaianna.

thanx, its just that i like loaded pistil so i doesnt to do extra lol, but your analysis was great!

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posted November 17, 2014 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi LoadedPistil,

To me this seems like a self-terminating karmic relationship. Allow me to explain. There are some strong, clearly fated, and mostly exact, aspects here.

You met under obviously fated circumstances, and wouldn't have normally, which have impacted you both deeply -- his emotional life, and your destiny. (MOON conjunct VERTEX, 0º).

Also, I'm shocked if some big questions weren't answered, or a greater commitment achieved, or something revealed during the 23 October eclipse. The SUN/MOON was at 0º Scorpio, which hit this conjunction dead-on.

You will undoubtedly help him to grow as a person, largely due to your approach to the world. (ASC/NNODE, 0º)

Note that you both have a similar house structure; for you, SAGITTARIUS is intercepted; for him, it's SCORPIO. His DSC in SAG then becomes a major attracting factor. Again, the fact that his ASC/DSC axis falls along your 6H/12H axis is hardly coincidental. He's pulling SAG energy from his DSC, yes, but it's important to not forget it falls in YOUR 6H. The relationship is thereby intended to help you along your path to spirituality; especially how it can be pragmatised; approached in a mundane way. Simple service in daily life.

Meanwhile, your MARS is what hits his intercepted Scorpio. Which -- surprise, surprise! -- is in his 6H. Crucial detail. While your MARS is 5H, it's drawing energy from the 6C, which it conjoins by 4º. (Wide, but present.)

The interceptions in a relationship show immediately what becomes the focus, and is considered very sacred and special to the individuals involved.

MARS and DSC. SAG and SCO. It seems to me that you would both do very well to consider spiritual activism together. There's a tremendous drive there, with so much 6H focus.

Your SUN is also 0º04 contraparallel his MOON. Despite there being a very weak quincunx, the declination aspect between your MOON and his SUN is what's binding. Alas, there's a strong disconnect between the energies between the two, which would need to be reconciled through compromise, and anything which might fall on the Midpoint of your SUN and his MOON in the composite.

No doubt his approach to things can uncover some deep wounds in you, with CHIRON loosely on the ASC, but in the 1H. These will become more prominent the longer you're together. I'd also explore if you have any Draconic or Sidereal links activating 5º GEMINI.

You're a SUN-JUNO conjunction (2º), but he's not actually a JUNO-MOON conjunction, to clarify. Rather, his JUNO pulls energy from his VERTEX.

This is why the two of you are in a relationship. He is very much driven by the invisible hand of fate to determine the direction of his romantic life. You can relate to this, with 5H MARS-VX.

Again, your VX falling in his 6H, intercepted Scorpio, drives the relationship towards service and greater spirituality. (With Scorpio here, I'd totally try Tantric sex.)

There's a nice contraparallel between your JUNOs, too, but be mindful that the relationship will surface old wounds for him, too, as it's his CHIRON that's involved here, by 0º.

We'd call this a 'Chirotic relationship'. There's a debate as to how long they can endure, at the moment. The romance may be the first thing to go between you, which would leave a lot of self and psychological work to feel more akin to drudgery. But then, that all depends upon the balance of masculine and feminine between you.

Your MOON's not getting any real love from his SUN. Over time, that can become very noticeable. On top of a very nice 1º trine from his VENUS to your MARS, with only a 2º quincunx vice versa ... that does not bode well for romantic or sexual fulfillment on your behalf.

Now, a caveat. If you're the type that, say, prefers to dominate a relationship and is seeking a sexually submissive partner -- go to. It'll be a lot harder to turn the tables and switch roles, however.

The natural dynamics between you are such that his MOON and VENUS are activated by your MARS and SUN. There's a lovely resonance there, but it certainly casts you in the light of the one expressing these traditionally masculine energies.

And then there's SATURN-VENUS, 1º. You may like this. HE certainly does, with a CAP JUNO and MOON. Bear in mind, too, this resonates with your CAP DSC. The trick is to not get tyrannical, as your VENUS quincunx VENUS already shows butting heads over difference of taste, and many compromises to be had.

A final quick note.

You have a 0º20 parallel of SUN and CHIRON, did you know? In this way, the contraparellel from his MOON is lovely. It can be just the right level of emotionality to help clear these old wounds and heal that which is stubborn to be healed.

(I'd also be VERY interested to see if anything falls on your CHIRON. It wasn't until I went digging that I found certain things on my CHIRON which proved so illuminating.)

I'd watch the SATURN on your VENUS. This can be a lovely, trusting, guiding influence -- or it can feel stifling, domineering, and undeniably paternal. (But, hey, you've got daddy issues; so it can at least help with that.)

Now, Lee mentioned some Lilith-oriented issues. Yes. There are those. His BML is also parallel your SUN/CHIRON, 1º. It's ... close enough to at least pay some attention. As this falls upon your ASC, you won't help but be able to notice. (Spoiler alert: he's got mommy issues.) And your BML on his VENUS 2º can carry a bit of that weight, if done wisely.

Long-term? Depends on many things.

I suspect you're both here to clear family karma which has consolidated in your own individual lives, and is unsettled between you. Your SUN/CHIRON parallel his IC, so he'll be finally putting to bed issues regarding his own family drama, especially that relating to his mother.

So, what do you want to bet his SUN's parallel your MC?

Yep. Sometimes astrology is just too spot-on. His SUN will illuminate the issues surrounding your father, (as well as career, and your overall 'life direction') for, we all hope, eventual healing.

Healing family issues and childhood wounds -- I'd say that's 60% of relationships, if not more. Depending upon level of maturity, and willingness to do the work, wonderful rewards can be achieved once 'the closets have been cleaned out'.

I do suspect there's a bit going on at the karmic level, as I said before; especially with the SATURN-VENUS conjunction, and your SNODE conjunct his DSC. That can be literally read as, 'he owes you a relationship'.

Isn't it funny that his 7R (NEPTUNE) 'disappears' in your 6H, in your intercepted SAG? Heh. Not funny at all. That's karma.

There's a lot of uncertainty surrounding the duration of your relationship; you're astute to pick that up. NEPTUNE, of course, is very spiritually driven and higher-minded.

If you both dedicate yourselves to service, and approaching the relationship in a 6H fashion, using the CHIRON energy to heal yourselves and others -- I feel the rewards can be great. It may last a long time.

If, however, you choose the 'lower road' -- easy street -- you'll likely find the usual culprits -- jealousy, possessiveness, and lack of true intimacy -- will overcome. LILITH is a dangerous shadow, and she must be treated with equality and respect. JUNO's standing by to see the relationship, and its members, are being given its due, too.

Just remember to treat each other with respect and cultivate unconditional love. NEPTUNE's great for that, too, when you let it be.

Good luck!


1. Don't have daddy issues, really. My father died at a really young age and my mother kept me from him. I actually would have preferred living with my father over my mother. Mommy issues? YES.
I like the Venus-Saturn when he's being stern. He's actually got the daddy issues. Doesn't understand my mommy issues and is APPALLED when I speak of my mother in such a way. "Watch your mouth, young lady." I think you're onto something because of some intimate moments that I'd rather not share here.

2. I am NOT the one to dominate a relationship or bedroom much. As needed? Sure! But he is very dominant in the bedroom. I can have my way maybe 5 min before I'm wisked away. It's ver hard to get him to be submissive in the bedroom for long. He'll say yeah, but it never works out.

3. There is certainly all kinds of healing oing on between us. I will re-read this 100x.

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posted November 17, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1. Don't have daddy issues, really. My father died at a really young age and my mother kept me from him. I actually would have preferred living with my father over my mother. Mommy issues? YES.
I like the Venus-Saturn when he's being stern. He's actually got the daddy issues. Doesn't understand my mommy issues and is APPALLED when I speak of my mother in such a way. "Watch your mouth, young lady." I think you're onto something because of some intimate moments that I'd rather not share here.

2. I am NOT the one to dominate a relationship or bedroom much. As needed? Sure! But he is very dominant in the bedroom. I can have my way maybe 5 min before I'm wisked away. It's ver hard to get him to be submissive in the bedroom for long. He'll say yeah, but it never works out.

3. There is certainly all kinds of healing oing on between us. I will re-read this 100x.


Oh, boy. That's going to be a problem. I'm very sorry to hear about your relationship (or lack thereof) with your father. But, yes, THAT is still an issue, and it's going to need to be addressed here (in the relationship).

'Daddy/babygirl' roleplaying may very well be a particular way to explore some of what's locked in the subconscious, incidentally. VENUS/SATURN is perfectly at home when in a BDSM context.

If, in the long run, you are more presently comfortable exploring issues with your mother, this relationship may not be the arena for it. I'll have to more thoroughly study your MOON.

If he's got paternal issues he's more comfortable exploring for the time being, that's wonderful as it can help you uncover your own in that regard. An important question is, what to do when those have been mostly sorted / or 'played out' (perhaps, literally).

In the long run, a woman needs her VENUS and MOON supported, just as a man does his SUN and MARS. Sounds as cliched as they come, but I've found it to be true.

Incidentally, this relationship is presently designed to help you with the father-issues: the age difference, the strong SATURN, the emphasis on your SUN/MARS with CHIRON -- so, perhaps, it's best to look at it in that light for now?

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posted November 17, 2014 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh, boy. That's going to be a problem. I'm very sorry to hear about your relationship (or lack thereof) with your father. But, yes, THAT is still an issue, and it's going to need to be addressed here (in the relationship).

'Daddy/babygirl' roleplaying may very well be a particular way to explore some of what's locked in the subconscious, incidentally. VENUS/SATURN is perfectly at home when in a BDSM context.

If, in the long run, you are more presently comfortable exploring issues with your mother, this relationship may not be the arena for it. I'll have to more thoroughly study your MOON.

If he's got paternal issues he's more comfortable exploring for the time being, that's wonderful as it can help you uncover your own in that regard. An important question is, what to do when those have been mostly sorted / or 'played out' (perhaps, literally).

In the long run, a woman needs her VENUS and MOON supported, just as a man does his SUN and MARS. Sounds as cliched as they come, but I've found it to be true.

Incidentally, this relationship is presently designed to help you with the father-issues: the age difference, the strong SATURN, the emphasis on your SUN/MARS with CHIRON -- so, perhaps, it's best to look at it in that light for now?


Father issues in that he passed at a young age? That's interesting. I look forward to THAT! I really do love the Mars trine Mars. It's so easy for us to work together with each other. I credit that for our ability to switch rolls in giving and receiving instructions in many aspects.

I actually havent found any relationship to even really be able to discuss issues with my mother. That's like a size of a can of worms you can only get at Costco. I agree this may not be the arena for it because he doesn't like hearing my talk about pain like that. He winces. It's just too much and I don't think he like to see hurt in me like that. As a pisces, it's too much for him it empathize and for him it's like catching a bullet.

I feel very much feminine when I'm with him and love his male energy. I'm very much worried about Moon Opp Venus in composite because Venus as ruler of money causes issues with his Cap moon. We spend VERY differently. In my family, I'm the highest earner. No surprise with Sun in 2nd. I spend for happiness. He saves for God knows what reason. His money questions generally go unanswered by me because it's MY money. If it becomes OUR money, I former messiness.

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posted November 17, 2014 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kaianna:
thanx, its just that i like loaded pistil so i doesnt to do extra lol, but your analysis was great!

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posted November 17, 2014 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody cares about our name asteroid synastry?

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Both times of birth are certain.

More interestingly,

We met because of our names. He was looking for someone with my name. I started talking to him thinking I found the person I was looking for. I said "no. Sorry. Wrong (my name). I was looking for _____" He said, "My name is _____ " One year later, I'm here.

He has Pluto conj My name exact
I have Pluto semi-sq his name 1 deg

I put his name on his 5th cusp
He puts my name on my 5th cusp

His parents have Pluto sq My name exact
My parents have pluto trine his name exact.

We have Pluto sq his name in Composite
His name in my chart opposed his sun/moon mp 1 deg.

...just in case that was important.


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posted November 17, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nobody cares about our name asteroid synastry?


it could just be that the relationship is fated, doesnt speak much to longevity, compatibility etc

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posted November 17, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kaianna:
it could just be that the relationship is fated, doesnt speak much to longevity, compatibility etc

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posted November 17, 2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, typically regarding name asteroids, they've got to first be natally tested. Once you've found the right ones, the links are usually shocking.

For example, his natal GIVEN is conjunct his SURNAME which conjunct his MOON-BML, and my PRIAPUS. That's huge for us, given the dynamics of our sexual relationship. (And the fact that he was even able to get to that extremely hidden and guarded part of me.)

What's most telling to me?

In my natal, his GIVEN is parallel his SURNAME and my ASC.
In his natal, my GIVEN and SURNAME (maiden) are parallel.

My SURNAME is part of his 7H stellium; specifically conjunct VALENTINE-ANTEROS-LUST. And, my GIVEN/SURNAME is conjunct his DSC, 1º.

My GIVEN is also parallel his SURNAME and ANGEL.

In my natal, his GIVEN/SURNAME is conjunct my PRIAPUS and his nMOON, (0º)

In our composite, his SURNAME is parallel my nASC, with my SURNAME parallel his nSUN.

Not bad.

Further, where the names appear in conjunction to certain asteroids has been wonderfully illuminating in regards to our karma and the purpose of our (lifetime) relationship.

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Also, I'm shocked if some big questions weren't answered, or a greater commitment achieved, or something revealed during the 23 October eclipse. The SUN/MOON was at 0º Scorpio, which hit this conjunction dead-on.


He came back around to me Oct 13. After the eclipse, we had conflicts.

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You will undoubtedly help him to grow as a person, largely due to your approach to the world. (ASC/NNODE, 0º)

Note that you both have a similar house structure; for you, SAGITTARIUS is intercepted; for him, it's SCORPIO. His DSC in SAG then becomes a major attracting factor. Again, the fact that his ASC/DSC axis falls along your 6H/12H axis is hardly coincidental. He's pulling SAG energy from his DSC, yes, but it's important to not forget it falls in YOUR 6H. The relationship is thereby intended to help you along your path to spirituality; especially how it can be pragmatised; approached in a mundane way. Simple service in daily life.

Meanwhile, your MARS is what hits his intercepted Scorpio. Which -- surprise, surprise! -- is in his 6H. Crucial detail. While your MARS is 5H, it's drawing energy from the 6C, which it conjoins by 4º. (Wide, but present.)

The interceptions in a relationship show immediately what becomes the focus, and is considered very sacred and special to the individuals involved.

MARS and DSC. SAG and SCO. It seems to me that you would both do very well to consider spiritual activism together. There's a tremendous drive there, with so much 6H focus.


There is a HUGE 6H energy influence between us to "serve" each other. I definitely thought it had to do with that interception.


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And then there's SATURN-VENUS, 1º. You may like this. HE certainly does, with a CAP JUNO and MOON. Bear in mind, too, this resonates with your CAP DSC. The trick is to not get tyrannical, as your VENUS quincunx VENUS already shows butting heads over difference of taste, and many compromises to be had.


This is certainly true. The way we display love to each other is very different. He thinks I should b satisfied with his methods and I'm not.

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So, what do you want to bet his SUN's parallel your MC?

Yep. Sometimes astrology is just too spot-on. His SUN will illuminate the issues surrounding your father, (as well as career, and your overall 'life direction') for, we all hope, eventual healing.

Healing family issues and childhood wounds -- I'd say that's 60% of relationships, if not more. Depending upon level of maturity, and willingness to do the work, wonderful rewards can be achieved once 'the closets have been cleaned out'.

I do suspect there's a bit going on at the karmic level, as I said before; especially with the SATURN-VENUS conjunction, and your SNODE conjunct his DSC. That can be literally read as, 'he owes you a relationship'.


This is interesting. he does offer the most amazing encouragement to me career-wise. Total daddy-like encouragement there, which i .
I asked FilleAspirant about this as I have this image of his inner child. He can be very child-like at times when he's excited or enjoying something. He gets that "new ice cream cone" face like he's not had joy in a while. I'll notice something is bothering him. I don't ask hime. I just grab him and want to give him a kind of pure love like this...

and at around the 29th kiss, he gets all...
How did you know I was upset? What did I say, exactly?

My psyche his his Sun/Moon mp and MC 1º

He doesn't like this feeling of psychic molestation and fondling. This makes him run. FilleAspirant said he didn't get that as a child, which I found hard to believe. He loves it until he starts feeling psychically lubricated and he gets crazy. Makes me sad.

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Isn't it funny that his 7R (NEPTUNE) 'disappears' in your 6H, in your intercepted SAG? Heh. Not funny at all. That's karma.

There's a lot of uncertainty surrounding the duration of your relationship; you're astute to pick that up. NEPTUNE, of course, is very spiritually driven and higher-minded.

If you both dedicate yourselves to service, and approaching the relationship in a 6H fashion, using the CHIRON energy to heal yourselves and others -- I feel the rewards can be great. It may last a long time.

If, however, you choose the 'lower road' -- easy street -- you'll likely find the usual culprits -- jealousy, possessiveness, and lack of true intimacy -- will overcome. LILITH is a dangerous shadow, and she must be treated with equality and respect. JUNO's standing by to see the relationship, and its members, are being given its due, too.

Just remember to treat each other with respect and cultivate unconditional love. NEPTUNE's great for that, too, when you let it be.

Good luck!


Intimacy has never been an issue with us. We share very deep things. I do feel the low road is the deal-breaker. I take relationships too seriously. He tends to flout the responsibility to the relationship when he fails. He takes it very personally and lashes out, but as quickly as he lashes out is as sweetly as he apologizes going so far as to get down on his knees and kiss my feet. Like you said, maturity and willingness to do the work seems to be the test here, but when he doesn't, he's disappointed in himself.

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posted November 18, 2014 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also, typically regarding name asteroids, they've got to first be natally tested. Once you've found the right ones, the links are usually shocking.

For example, his natal GIVEN is conjunct his SURNAME which conjunct his MOON-BML, and my PRIAPUS. That's huge for us, given the dynamics of our sexual relationship. (And the fact that he was even able to get to that extremely hidden and guarded part of me.)

What's most telling to me?

In my natal, his GIVEN is parallel his SURNAME and my ASC.
In his natal, my GIVEN and SURNAME (maiden) are parallel.

My SURNAME is part of his 7H stellium; specifically conjunct VALENTINE-ANTEROS-LUST. And, my GIVEN/SURNAME is conjunct his DSC, 1º.

My GIVEN is also parallel his SURNAME and ANGEL.

In my natal, his GIVEN/SURNAME is conjunct my PRIAPUS and his nMOON, (0º)

In our composite, his SURNAME is parallel my nASC, with my SURNAME parallel his nSUN.

Not bad.

Further, where the names appear in conjunction to certain asteroids has been wonderfully illuminating in regards to our karma and the purpose of our (lifetime) relationship.


Unfortunately, only my first name has an asteroid namesake.
His middle name is conj my Desc exact, tho, which natally sq his first name exact.
Wait for it.... In my 6H

He puts his Last name in my 4th house to complete a stellium of his full name. His full name makes a t-square in his natal.

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Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
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posted November 18, 2014 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Unfortunately, only my first name has an asteroid namesake.

It's good to be a 'MELETE'.

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posted November 18, 2014 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne, kaianna , LeeLoo2014

Feel free to post a thread and @ me in either personal readings for a tarot or Horary for a Horary reading.

Thank you all.

Sounds like the final assessment is "maybe".

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posted November 18, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, there were some pieces missing here, LP.

First off, you're an exact ISIS-SUN. I'm going to wager the man with whom you have the deepest karmic relationship, and are going to eventually marry is an OSIRIS-SUN -- or OSIRIS-MOON. At least tightly conjunct a light.

Now, you're on the right track, as his OSIRIS is barely within orb of a trine to your ISIS-SUN, and conjunct your EROS. His ISIS is about as far (3º) in trine to your OSIRIS, out of sign.

He, on the other hand, is a SUN=KARMA/DESTINN, 0º30.

Pay close attention to now up until New Year's. As of the 17th, the tISIS/tOSIRIS is at 11º Leo in the sky, right on your SUN, 0º. The reason why you're asking about the long-term is, I think you know, unconsciously.

Don't you think it's funny that the most important conjunction in your natal, SUN-ISIS, has only his MOON and SUN throwing weak quincunxes? This is evidence of the karma you have to clear before being able to attain the soulmate relationship for which you're destined (SUN/ISIS, 0º; ISIS/OSIRIS parallel, 1º).

Despite some very nice parallels between you (VALENTINE/EROS contraparallel his SUN, ISIS/ASC) and conjunctions -- such as your AMOR on his ASC -- I feel the REAL draw between you is a significant and fated self-contained period.

First off, your pMOON is 1º conjunct your nEROS at the moment. For the next 6 months, it's going to reach a conjunction with his nOSIRIS. This is undoubtedly destined, and you'll both learn some very important things from each other -- most of which will help you grow towards your ISIS. There's a lot of resonance here: his pISIS is now trine your nOSIRIS (0º). His pMARS is also conjunct your nOSIRIS, (1º applying) and will continue to be for the next several years.

Without question, the sense of fatedness and important karmic work and mutual destiny will continue between you as it's very likely you're soulmates. But, in my view, that's not exactly what you need.

Being born an exact SUN conjunct ISIS indicates a very special, very specific destiny. You're on a soul-based trajectory to unite with an OSIRIS-oriented individual who will allow you to embody that powerful ISIS energy completely.

Right now, our relationship is giving him the opportunity to don the masque of OSIRIS: he has pOSIRIS trine pSUN. His pSUN, in fact, forms a Grand Fire Trine with your pISIS (separating 2º) and pOSIRIS (applying 2º).

My best forecasting predicts that, as this resonance continues up to 2017, you'll both have a tremendous opportunity to grow and heal together. Indeed, he will revel in the OSIRIS role, and you will, in turn, learn how to truly access the power of your natural, 'God-given' ISIS potential.

While his pMARS will continue to sextile your pVENUS for quite some time, it's best to remember it will also be conjunct your nOSIRIS as it does so.

At heart, these are progressions. They present opportunities for us to achieve things crucial to our journey. Karma is incredibly binding, as is fate. During the period in which we're to be acting, we're our most forgiving and accommodating. It's a kind of honeymoon period in and of itself.

For the time being, you're in alignment. There are several things which tell me why you're together now. But, of course, your question was 'how far will this go?'

My best estimate would be, not past 2019 without both of you turning against your greater destinies -- mainly you.

I say this because natal influences always win in the end. Natural dynamics reassert themselves regardless of the progressions that brought you together.

Natally, you bring SUN/MARS to the relationship, and he MOON/VENUS. And, I'm not sure if you knew this, but he has PSYCHE parallel PRIAPUS. His submissive and vulnerable side is deeply wounded, and, as you've noted expertly hidden.

Once he feels as if he's been able to successfully play the OSIRIS to your ISIS, he will revert to his natural instincts, which, with you, are of the Yin expression. Now, I find that as curious as you do. But all I can surmise is that he's got to heal his wounded masculinity with one who's got an equally wounded femininity, so that you're both able to reattain balance.

Are you going to go on to other relationships? Perhaps. I'd say the greater danger of staying with him is to you never fulfilling your ISIS, as, natally speaking, there's just not much to support it, outside of a loose trine from his OSIRIS. And, let's face it, to be a truly happy wife, you can't neglect your SUN/ISIS (conjunct JUNO, 2º).

Again, his SUN and MOON make loose quincunxes here natally. It will take adjustment to both his core identity and emotional constitution to fulfill that role.

Should he do so? That's a bigger question. I'm going to hazard a guess and say no, given the lack of his being a natal OSIRIS individual.

It's crucial, I feel, that he rediscover this within himself, and you're doing that. I'd just say, be prepared for the day that it proves a costume. A masque. Be understanding of the wounded boy underneath who's going to finally feel safe enough to confess his deep and powerful need for a strong female figure.

'Hang on,' I hear you saying. 'How more powerful can you get than ISIS?'

I hear you. I totally hear you.

The issue is that ISIS and OSIRIS are equals. It's his PRIAPUS he's going to need to express, which is all kinds of eff'ed up, (retrograde in Capricorn). There's a lovely loose conjunction of your BML to his PRIAPUS (3º) which, you already know, is conjunct his VENUS.

So the choice will be yours.

You can stay and don the role of Dominant, (which, let's face it -- it's your money? That's a HUGE clue what you're dealing with!) as he'll be approaching the age in which he's going to start yearning to explore submission (around 40, typically) -- or you can decide that you've leant what was needed, and move on.

As always, the choice will be yours.

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posted November 18, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG.....

That number 17 is following me....

It is a very long story. I have been seeing that number since we met and when FilleAspirant passed on the 17th after pelting her with questions as to why I was seeing that number, she swore it was connected to him.

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posted November 18, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
17? Ahh. Spiritual awakening and new beginnings. Good number. Typically, it's a positive omen. You're on the right path; where you need to be, right now, today.

It's also a signal to listen to your intuition above all.

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posted November 18, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
17? Ahh. Spiritual awakening and new beginnings. Good number. Typically, it's a positive omen. You're on the right path; where you need to be, right now, today.

It's also a signal to listen to your intuition above all.




Do you have a paypal? Can we settle this karmic debt right now?

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Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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posted November 18, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. I wonder. Should I also mention that tISIS is at 17º LEO?

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