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LoadedPistil
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posted November 17, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I posted this synastry before and a LOT has changed since then. If anyone could tell me to what highest capacity we could be together.

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posted November 17, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know. You have a Sun-Juno conjunction, which is a big deal, and it isn't being touched by his planets

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posted November 17, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't know. You have a Sun-Juno conjunction, which is a big deal, and it isn't being touched by his planets

It's being sextiled by his Pluto

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posted November 17, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LP

The good news is that he has Juno/Moon in Cap, and you that Sun/Juno sq Saturn, the bad news they're both unaspected. It's interesting he has this Moon/Juno in Cap sq Pluto, you have Sun/Juno sq Saturn in Scorp, plus your Moon/Pluto, definitely a resemblance here. Is his TOB a certainty?

It looks like a Lilith relationship, a bit obsessive and hard to overcome too many unaspected planets for real compatibility.

An Aqua or maybe Taurus Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, at least two of them would be really good for you.

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posted November 17, 2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi LP

The good news is that he has Juno/Moon in Cap, and you that Sun/Juno sq Saturn, the bad news they're both unaspected. It's interesting he has this Moon/Juno in Cap sq Pluto, you have Sun/Juno sq Saturn in Scorp, plus your Moon/Pluto, definitely a resemblance here. Is his TOB a certainty?

It looks like a Lilith relationship, a bit obsessive and hard to overcome too many unaspected planets for real compatibility.

An Aqua or maybe Taurus Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars, at least two of them would be really good for you.



??? My Mars is sexile is Juno 1 deg.
I absolutely hate Aqua Sun AND Moon.

Do sextiles not count with you two?

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posted November 17, 2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

??? My Mars is sexile is Juno 1 deg.
I absolutely hate Aqua Sun AND Moon.

Do sextiles not count with you two?


Then it must be Taurus

Of course they count, they are not shown here, you know astro does that some time.

The thing is you both have very strong charts, but the connection between you two is focused on certain points, but scattered for the rest - it is an intense crush rather than a match

Is this relationship very important to you and long-lasting? Many times life defies astrology

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posted November 17, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both times of birth are certain.

More interestingly,

We met because of our names. He was looking for someone with my name. I started talking to him thinking I found the person I was looking for. I said "no. Sorry. Wrong (my name). I was looking for _____" He said, "My name is _____ " One year later, I'm here.

He has Pluto conj My name exact
I have Pluto semi-sq his name 1 deg

I put his name on his 5th cusp
He puts my name on my 5th cusp

His parents have Pluto sq My name exact
My parents have pluto trine his name exact.

We have Pluto sq his name in Composite
His name in my chart opposed his sun/moon mp 1 deg.

...just in case that was important.

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posted November 17, 2014 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does the composite look, BTW?

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posted November 17, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How does the composite look, BTW?


I hate it. BUT the 12th house part I enjoy. We like to hide in caves together. The Uranus/MC is the part I hate.

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posted November 17, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Then it must be Taurus

Of course they count, they are not shown here, you know astro does that some time.

The thing is you both have very strong charts, but the connection between you two is focused on certain points, but scattered for the rest - it is an intense crush rather than a match

Is this relationship very important to you and long-lasting? Many times life defies astrology


Taurus sun? Yes. Taurus Moon? No. Too ditzy.
Yes. The relationship is already important and life-changing for him. He left a 5-year relationship. I'm on one line. He's breaking up with her on the other.

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posted November 17, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, the lilith explains he was in a relationship when you both met and started the relationship. But i have to agree with the others, the synastry is weak and doesnt look long term. The composite isnt that strong either, some parts are too scattered.


how about mid points and anti-scions, i will look some up for you, we should prob check progressions to.

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posted November 17, 2014 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kaianna:
yes, the lilith explains he was in a relationship when you both met and started the relationship. But i have to agree with the others, the synastry is weak and doesnt look long term. The composite isnt that strong either, some parts are too scattered.


how about mid points and anti-scions, i will look some up for you, we should prob check progressions to.



I think his progressed Saturn or Sun is coming to my Venus.

His Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium opposes my Sun/Moon.

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posted November 17, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
besides my synastry with you is much better lol

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posted November 17, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay they have some parallels and contraparallels


His-Her

Sun contraparallel mercury
moon contraparallel sun
mercury contraparallel mercury
venus contraparallel pluto
saturn parallel venus
uranus parallel venus
pluto contraparallel moon
mercury contraparallel pluto

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posted November 17, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<3 our composite

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posted November 17, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok progressions


her progressions

sun-10 virgo
venus- 1 libra
moon- 12 sag
mars 8 sag


his progressions

sun- 20 aries
venus- 9 taurus
moon- 23 taurus
mars- 29 cancer
saturn- 23 leo


her natal
sun-11 leo
venus- 24 leo
moon- 0 scorpio
mars- 22 scorpio


his natal
sun-13 pisces
venus-23 pisces
moon- 15 capricorn
mars-22 cancer

his progressed saturn is conjunct her natal venus

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posted November 17, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kaianna, could you be a lil less Leo for me? Please?

Also, I would not trade venus saturn for venus sun.
And I like his Mars in my 1st and 8th house Moon in my 7th.

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posted November 17, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any major asteroid at around 25 Pisces? Vesta, Pallas, Amor, Eros and/or Psyche, Ceres would be nice...Valentine maybe...this could add some stability to the composite. DSC ruler at 0 Aries wow...how do you feel that? lol

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posted November 17, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Any major asteroid at around 25 Pisces? Vesta, Pallas, Amor, Eros and/or Psyche, Ceres would be nice...Valentine maybe...this could add some stability to the composite. DSC ruler at 0 Aries wow...how do you feel that? lol


Ceres at 14 Pisces
Boda is 24 Cancer
Psyche 2 Capricorn sq Saturn Exact

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posted November 17, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok for some midpoints lol


his-her

venus= neptune/chiron
venus= jupiter/north node
mars= mercury/chiron
moon opp venus/chiron
saturn= sun/mercury
north node= venus/mars
pluto= venus/mars
pluto= mercury/mars

her-his

moon= uranus/pluto
mercury opp moon/chiron
jupiter= venus/pluto
saturn opp venus/jupiter
uranus opp venus/saturn
chiron= mercury/saturn
north node= sun/saturn

these are only conjunctions and oppositions, you will have to check for squares


up next anti-scons and contra lol this is fun

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posted November 17, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LoadedPistil,

To me this seems like a self-terminating karmic relationship. Allow me to explain. There are some strong, clearly fated, and mostly exact, aspects here.

You met under obviously fated circumstances, and wouldn't have normally, which have impacted you both deeply -- his emotional life, and your destiny. (MOON conjunct VERTEX, 0).

Also, I'm shocked if some big questions weren't answered, or a greater commitment achieved, or something revealed during the 23 October eclipse. The SUN/MOON was at 0 Scorpio, which hit this conjunction dead-on.

You will undoubtedly help him to grow as a person, largely due to your approach to the world. (ASC/NNODE, 0)

Note that you both have a similar house structure; for you, SAGITTARIUS is intercepted; for him, it's SCORPIO. His DSC in SAG then becomes a major attracting factor. Again, the fact that his ASC/DSC axis falls along your 6H/12H axis is hardly coincidental. He's pulling SAG energy from his DSC, yes, but it's important to not forget it falls in YOUR 6H. The relationship is thereby intended to help you along your path to spirituality; especially how it can be pragmatised; approached in a mundane way. Simple service in daily life.

Meanwhile, your MARS is what hits his intercepted Scorpio. Which -- surprise, surprise! -- is in his 6H. Crucial detail. While your MARS is 5H, it's drawing energy from the 6C, which it conjoins by 4. (Wide, but present.)

The interceptions in a relationship show immediately what becomes the focus, and is considered very sacred and special to the individuals involved.

MARS and DSC. SAG and SCO. It seems to me that you would both do very well to consider spiritual activism together. There's a tremendous drive there, with so much 6H focus.

Your SUN is also 004 contraparallel his MOON. Despite there being a very weak quincunx, the declination aspect between your MOON and his SUN is what's binding. Alas, there's a strong disconnect between the energies between the two, which would need to be reconciled through compromise, and anything which might fall on the Midpoint of your SUN and his MOON in the composite.

No doubt his approach to things can uncover some deep wounds in you, with CHIRON loosely on the ASC, but in the 1H. These will become more prominent the longer you're together. I'd also explore if you have any Draconic or Sidereal links activating 5 GEMINI.

You're a SUN-JUNO conjunction (2), but he's not actually a JUNO-MOON conjunction, to clarify. Rather, his JUNO pulls energy from his VERTEX.

This is why the two of you are in a relationship. He is very much driven by the invisible hand of fate to determine the direction of his romantic life. You can relate to this, with 5H MARS-VX.

Again, your VX falling in his 6H, intercepted Scorpio, drives the relationship towards service and greater spirituality. (With Scorpio here, I'd totally try Tantric sex.)

There's a nice contraparallel between your JUNOs, too, but be mindful that the relationship will surface old wounds for him, too, as it's his CHIRON that's involved here, by 0.

We'd call this a 'Chirotic relationship'. There's a debate as to how long they can endure, at the moment. The romance may be the first thing to go between you, which would leave a lot of self and psychological work to feel more akin to drudgery. But then, that all depends upon the balance of masculine and feminine between you.

Your MOON's not getting any real love from his SUN. Over time, that can become very noticeable. On top of a very nice 1 trine from his VENUS to your MARS, with only a 2 quincunx vice versa ... that does not bode well for romantic or sexual fulfillment on your behalf.

Now, a caveat. If you're the type that, say, prefers to dominate a relationship and is seeking a sexually submissive partner -- go to. It'll be a lot harder to turn the tables and switch roles, however.

The natural dynamics between you are such that his MOON and VENUS are activated by your MARS and SUN. There's a lovely resonance there, but it certainly casts you in the light of the one expressing these traditionally masculine energies.

And then there's SATURN-VENUS, 1. You may like this. HE certainly does, with a CAP JUNO and MOON. Bear in mind, too, this resonates with your CAP DSC. The trick is to not get tyrannical, as your VENUS quincunx VENUS already shows butting heads over difference of taste, and many compromises to be had.

A final quick note.

You have a 020 parallel of SUN and CHIRON, did you know? In this way, the contraparellel from his MOON is lovely. It can be just the right level of emotionality to help clear these old wounds and heal that which is stubborn to be healed.

(I'd also be VERY interested to see if anything falls on your CHIRON. It wasn't until I went digging that I found certain things on my CHIRON which proved so illuminating.)

I'd watch the SATURN on your VENUS. This can be a lovely, trusting, guiding influence -- or it can feel stifling, domineering, and undeniably paternal. (But, hey, you've got daddy issues; so it can at least help with that.)

Now, Lee mentioned some Lilith-oriented issues. Yes. There are those. His BML is also parallel your SUN/CHIRON, 1. It's ... close enough to at least pay some attention. As this falls upon your ASC, you won't help but be able to notice. (Spoiler alert: he's got mommy issues.) And your BML on his VENUS 2 can carry a bit of that weight, if done wisely.

Long-term? Depends on many things.

I suspect you're both here to clear family karma which has consolidated in your own individual lives, and is unsettled between you. Your SUN/CHIRON parallel his IC, so he'll be finally putting to bed issues regarding his own family drama, especially that relating to his mother.

So, what do you want to bet his SUN's parallel your MC?

Yep. Sometimes astrology is just too spot-on. His SUN will illuminate the issues surrounding your father, (as well as career, and your overall 'life direction') for, we all hope, eventual healing.

Healing family issues and childhood wounds -- I'd say that's 60% of relationships, if not more. Depending upon level of maturity, and willingness to do the work, wonderful rewards can be achieved once 'the closets have been cleaned out'.

I do suspect there's a bit going on at the karmic level, as I said before; especially with the SATURN-VENUS conjunction, and your SNODE conjunct his DSC. That can be literally read as, 'he owes you a relationship'.

Isn't it funny that his 7R (NEPTUNE) 'disappears' in your 6H, in your intercepted SAG? Heh. Not funny at all. That's karma.

There's a lot of uncertainty surrounding the duration of your relationship; you're astute to pick that up. NEPTUNE, of course, is very spiritually driven and higher-minded.

If you both dedicate yourselves to service, and approaching the relationship in a 6H fashion, using the CHIRON energy to heal yourselves and others -- I feel the rewards can be great. It may last a long time.

If, however, you choose the 'lower road' -- easy street -- you'll likely find the usual culprits -- jealousy, possessiveness, and lack of true intimacy -- will overcome. LILITH is a dangerous shadow, and she must be treated with equality and respect. JUNO's standing by to see the relationship, and its members, are being given its due, too.

Just remember to treat each other with respect and cultivate unconditional love. NEPTUNE's great for that, too, when you let it be.

Good luck!

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posted November 17, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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up next anti-scons and contra lol this is fun

I'm curious to see the contrascions. There's no traditional skipped step. I hesitate to use her DSC as a legit square to his NODES, you know? 2 is fine in terms of orb, but I'd much rather prefer there be antiscia and contrascia involved here.

Nevermind! JUPITER. Her JUPITER makes a 2 square, AND it's Retrograde. A-HA!

I'll be back with more on that. This is going to take some noodle-twisting, as it's not technically ruling any house, but is intercepted. The fact it's opposite his BML is pointing to real issues of jealousy, versus obligation and systems of values.

Yeah. I'm starting to see how things could've gone wrong before.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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his mars anti-scion her chiron
his mars contra-antiscion her uranus dw
his jupiter contra-antiscion her jupiter dw

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posted November 17, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooof. Look at that packed 12H.

Yep. This is a 12H / Chirotic relationship.

Not saying there can't be a lot of love and laughter, but it can take a bit to get there. The honeymoon period almost suckers you into sticking with it until the work is done.

It's hard. Very, very hard.

I'd say, the long-term potential truly lies in how willing both partners are to work for the relationship. Wonderful rewards can be the result.

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posted November 17, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm curious to see the contrascions. There's no traditional skipped step. I hesitate to use her DSC as a legit square to his NODES, you know? 2 is fine in terms of orb, but I'd much rather prefer there be antiscia and contrascia involved here.

Nevermind! JUPITER. Her JUPITER makes a 2 square, AND it's Retrograde. A-HA!

I'll be back with more on that. This is going to take some noodle-twisting, as it's not technically ruling any house, but is intercepted. The fact it's opposite his BML is pointing to real issues of jealousy, versus obligation and systems of values.

Yeah. I'm starting to see how things could've gone wrong before.


his jupiter anti-scion her ascendant also lol

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