posted November 17, 2014 05:52 PM            

Synastry:
Pluto conj Mars
Mars sextile Moon
Venus square Mars
Venus trine Uranus
Asc conj Mars
Asc conj Pluto
Pluto trine Venus
Pluto square Venus
Pluto square Sun
Sun sextile Jupiter
Sun trine Neptune
Mars trine Neptune
Moon conj Neptune
Mars/Moon/Uranus/Mercury sextile Saturn
Sun conj Venus
Sun sextile Venus
Sun semi square Saturn
Venus semi square Saturn
Amor conj Venus
Juno conj Moon
Ceres conj Sun
Eros conj Asc
Sun quintile Apollo
North Node conj MC

Composite:
Sun quintile Pluto
Sun trine Jupiter
Sun(Leo) square Moon(Scorpio)
Sun semi sextile Venus
Venus trine Moon
Mars sextile Moon
Mars sextile Venus
Jupiter(Sag!) conj Neptune
Saturn conjunct Pluto
Juno conj Moon
Ceres conj Mars

posted November 17, 2014 06:06 PM            

The closest aspect is Sun square Pluto 0.52 S but most of them between 1~4 degrees.

Astrotheme synastry orbs are perfect for me.

posted November 17, 2014 06:08 PM            

My progressed Sun is @ 29.5 Virgo!

Come on, let's lit this bad boy.

posted November 17, 2014 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Has this happened to you?

Synastry:
Pluto conj Mars
Mars sextile Moon
Venus square Mars
Asc conj Mars
Asc conj Pluto
Pluto trine Venus
Pluto square Venus
Pluto square Sun
Sun sextile Jupiter
Sun trine Neptune
Mars trine Neptune
Moon conj Neptune
Mars/Moon/Uranus/Mercury sextile Saturn
Sun conj Venus
Sun sextile Venus
Sun semi square Saturn
Venus semi square Saturn
Amor conj Venus
Juno conj Moon
Ceres conj Sun
Eros conj Asc
Sun quintile Apollo
North Node conj MC

Composite:
Sun quintile Pluto
Sun trine Jupiter
Sun(Leo) square Moon(Scorpio)
Sun semi sextile Venus
Venus trine Moon
Mars sextile Moon
Mars sextile Venus
Jupiter(Sag!) conj Neptune
Saturn conjunct Pluto
Juno conj Moon
Ceres conj Mars

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posted November 17, 2014 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by kaianna:
you need to post the synastry wheel and orbs, some of these orbs may be too wide and/or your not placing planets in their 5,7 or 8th house and not aspecting the rulers

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Also, Virgo28, it depends upon if SHE would be having a SIMILAR progression. When it comes to using progressions, DWs are everything.

As to orbs, finding my orbs were too wide was one of the biggest ways I've grown as an astrologer. YOU may feel them BECAUSE of the way they're positioned in YOUR natal. That doesn't say the other person does.

posted November 17, 2014 06:30 PM            

Wow.

posted November 17, 2014 06:31 PM            

My progressed Venus(0.52) is getting closer to her Progressed Sun(4.21)

Her progressed Venus is 3 degrees away from my natal Mars in Leo.

Her progressed Venus(16.33) is conjunct my Natal Mercury(16.20).

Progressed Mercury conjunct exact!

Her progressed Saturn is conj My natal Asc.

Her progressed Moon(21 Sag) conjunct my Natal Moon(19)

I only use 2 degrees orb for progressions.

posted November 17, 2014 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I should add, in the synastry I referenced, we have the SUN/MARS, MARS/PLUTO, MARS/ASC and so on, but we also have the 5H/8H overlay, with his MOON in my 8H, which is natally positioned in his 5H, and rules his 8H -- and opposes my SUN/PLUTO which is conjunct his MARS.

Wow.

Not getting out of THAT one!

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She has no planets in my 5,7,8. Pluto(Mine/Hers) is touching all planets so still aspects to house rulers.

She has her stallion in my first house and everything else 2,3,4,9,10,11.

"Wow.
Not getting out of THAT one! "

I'm so jello right now!!! --- Damn Leos

posted November 17, 2014 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Her progressed Venus is 3 degrees away from my natal Mars in Leo.

Her progressed Saturn is conj My natal Asc.

Her progressed Moon(21 Sag) conjunct my Natal Moon(19)

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Is the pVENUS applying or separating?

Her pSATURN on your nASC is ... hm. That could be putting the kibosh on some things, depending upon what her nSATURN (and pSATURN) rules.

posted November 17, 2014 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Is the pVENUS applying or separating?

Her pSATURN on your nASC is ... hm. That could be putting the kibosh on some things, depending upon what her nSATURN (and pSATURN) rules.

I like the pMOON on your nMOON. Just bear in mind that's so temporary. It may be an illusive (and elusive!) emotional attraction that's not enough to build upon.

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Applying...

I don't have her TOB.

posted November 17, 2014 06:52 PM            

BTW: Sun square Pluto sucks more than Venus square Pluto.

posted November 17, 2014 06:58 PM            

Here’s part of what I previously posted on this topic in a thread called ‘THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLATONIC AND ROMANTIC SYNASTRY’. Here’s the link. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/221321.html

My theory is that all aspects are always felt.

BUT they can be either felt in either a platonic way, or a romantic/mating way. No matter what the planetary combo is.

In this thread I’m going to address the varied factors in synastry that I’ve seen ‘switch on’ physical attraction aspects.

There is actually a platonic version of Venus/Mars, Venus/Uranus, Pluto/Mars and so on... After all it’s entirely possible that we could have this aspect with a friend or family member. You have Venus/Mars with grandma? No problem, maybe she just likes to give you dating advice.

The Vertex Axis, and the 5th,7th, and 8th houses, describe our 'type'. When they are switched on due to house ruler synastry, or house overlays in synastry, our romantic 'feelers' are switched on.

I have come to believe over time that the above is what determines whether a synastry is expressed platonically or romantically.

Having the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, plus the Vertex Axis, activated in synastry ‘switches on’ traditional physical attraction synastry from it's platonic version to its romantic version.

When a person’s natal chart strongly resembles the symbolism of the 5th,7th, or 8th houses on multiple levels, this also switches on physical attraction synastry. Someone’s chart strongly matching the symbolism of our ‘Love Houses’ awakens us in a romantic way as well.

My formula is basically this…

Physical attraction synastry + 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation in syanstry/Vertex synastry = strong romantic attractions.

Now when I say the 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation, what I mean is that one person will activate all these houses in your chart on multiple different levels… Using house overlays (planets in houses), house ruler synastry, or symbolism matches

For example, a love interest may match the symbolism of your 7th house… As in you have Uranus in the 7th house and they’re an Aquarius… And they could have their Moon residing in your 5th house… And they could have their Venus conjunct your 8th house ruler… MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS.

The strongest attractions we have with others usually involve all three of the relationship houses being activated in some fashion or another. And this seems to flip a switch in our psyches between platonic associate to potential mate.

For the Vertex Axis, well it’s not essential for an attraction to occur, a relationship can manage fine without Vertex synastry…

However, what Vertex synastry does give in a romantic context is a feeling the relationship is ‘fated’ and meaningful, and that this person gives us something that we’ve been craving deep down. There’s a kooky synchronicity in relationships with Vertex synastry, where we may be shocked by what we have in common with a person who aspects our vertex. People who aspect our vertex tend to stand out in our minds, and captivate us.

When mixed with a reasonable amount of 5th, 7th, 8th house type synastry, a conjunction to either end of the Vertex Axis can really set an attraction off, in an almost ‘over the top’ way.

I’d say that synastry involving the Vertex does switch on physical attraction synastry just like the 5th,7th, and 8th houses do. Only the Vertex Axis does seem to need extra factors backing it up, as well, to make it a strong attraction… And by ‘extra factors’ I mean at least a little 5th, 7th, and 8th house synastry.

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Here’s another part of a different thread I posted on the same topic, called ‘SYNASTRY OF ATTRACTION: WHY IT DOES OR DOESN’T WORK’. Here’s the link. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216505.html

SYNASTRY OF ATTRACTION: WHY IT DOES OR DOESN’T WORK

Okay. So we've probably all had that experience of meeting somebody with whom we share strong physical attraction synastry, and yet for some puzzling reason we're just not into them like that. And other times we’re head-over-heels. I think the answer to why this happens in the majority of cases is HOUSE RELATED SYNASTRY! Attraction is not purely just about what planets are aspecting what other planets. We can have Venus/Mars with one person and not harbor any romantic feelings for them at all… And have the very same aspect with a different person and be overwhelmingly attracted. This is because the ROLE a person will be playing in our lives is also largely determined by how they influence our natal houses in synastry.

I’ve been into astrology since I’ve been an early teen, and I’ve got a lot of observation under my belt. Of the people around me, myself, and celebrity case studies. As I’ve honed my passion for astrology I’ve started to notice certain patterns, especially with regard to the astrology of romantic attraction. One themes I’ve noticed is that HOUSE RELATED SYNASTRY 'ACTIVATES' ATTRACTION PRODUCING INTERPLANETARY ASPECTS. It’s seems that the physical attraction potential of certain astrological aspects can be either ‘activated’ or not depending on how the other person influences our natal chart through house ruler synastry, house overlays, and house symbolism matches.

But before I get into the house synastry thing, I’ll outline the aspects typically associated with physical attraction (Most of us know these already).

Astrology is REALLY flexible when it comes to physical attraction. There are many combinations of planets that indicate this...

PLANETARY COMBINATIONS INDICATING PHYSICAL ATTRACTION.

Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Sun/Mars, Sun/Pluto, Moon/Venus, Moon/Mars, Moon/Pluto, Venus/Asc, Venus/Venus, Venus/Mars, Venus/Uranus, Venus/Pluto, Mars/Asc, Mars/Mars, Mars/Uranus, Mars/Pluto...

Different planetary combinations seem to work better for different people depending on their natal charts, and the rest of the synastry with the partner. I've noticed most people do have their personal favorites based on their experiences. All of the above aspects do work, it's just a matter of preference.

I also want to mention Venus/Mercury. This aspect is not typically associated with physical attraction in the purest sense. But it can indicate finding each other's mannerisms attractive, flirty little interactions, and good kissing (so I've heard).

WHY HOUSE SYNASTRY IS IMPORTANT.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are the power players when it comes to who we find attractive, and why we find them attractive. If we have a typical physical attraction interplanetary aspect with somebody, and we don't feel it that way, I suspect that the main reason for this is that they may not be hitting any of the 'relationship houses' (5th, 7th, and 8th) in synastry….

People can influence our relationship houses either by putting planets in that house through overlays (Especially if the overlaying planets make important aspects to your natal chart), or by aspecting the ruler of that house in your chart with their natal planets. When people touch the 5th, 7th, or 8th houses in your chart with their natal placements they bring the theme of that house to ‘life’ for you. Almost like they are turning that house ‘on’.

Another way for someone to activate your relationship houses is with a symbolism match... For instance, if you have a Scorpio Dsc, with Uranus in the 7th, and Pluto in Libra ruling the Dsc, and the other person has strong Scorpio/Pluto, Aquarius/Uranus, and/or Libra/Venus in their chart, then they match the symbolism of your 7th house with the makeup of their chart... Creating a symbolism match to your taste and preferences. Symbolism matches are what makes a person seem like they are your ‘type’ in terms of personality and style.

HOUSE SYNASTRY AND PHYSICAL ATTRACTION PLANETARY ASPECTS.

I've noticed over time that house related synastry seems to 'activate' any physical attraction aspects that exist in your synastry with somebody. Like it flicks the switch in our psyche that distinguishes between a platonic relationship and a potential lover. The stronger and more intense such 5th/7th/8th house related synastry is, the more intense and complete the attraction to that person will be.

If, for example, you have Moon trine Mars with somebody, and they also had their Sun in your 5th house, their Venus sextiling your 7th house ruler, and their Moon in you 8th house trining your 7th house ruler… This house related synastry would likely flick the Moon/Mars aspect ‘on’ in a romantic/sexual way. If such house related synastry involving the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses is missing, the Moon/Mars aspect would likely stay platonic, and you may like that person’s energy in a friendly way, but not find them particularly attractive.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses (The relationship houses) in synastry seem to be the keys to ‘activating’ the romantic attraction potential of any synastry that you have with somebody.

ACTIVATING ALL THREE OF THE HOUSES IS IMPORTANT.

In romantic relationships, it does work best if the person in question influences all three of the relationship houses in your chart some way or another. The three relationship houses (the 5th, 7th, and 8th) each represent one of the three important levels in all romantic relationships. Romance (the 5th), partnership (7th) and intimacy (8th).

If your partner’s chart connects to all three of these houses, this is a very good sign. As it indicates that the relationship feels balanced and complete for you. Having your partner connect to all three of these houses in at least some way is actually not as hard as it sounds. Your partner could aspect the ruler of one of these houses. Have planets actually in these houses. Or simply have a natal chart that matches the symbolism of one or more of these houses. For example, you have Jupiter in the 7th house, and your partner has important natal placements in Sagittarius (a symbolism match).

It’s also an extremely good sign if your partner, in turn, has all three of their relationship houses activated by you (in some why). Something as simple as a sextile to the ruler of one of the 5th, 7th, or 8th houses will be effective, especially if the other two relationship houses are strong in synastry. This way the relationship will ‘feel’ balanced and complete for your partner.

REQUITED AND UNREQUITED LOVE.

The strongest house 'relationship house' activated in the synastry for each person will determine the flavor of the relationship for them. If only one or two of these 'relationship houses' are activated for one or both of the people in the relationship, then the relationship can feel lopsided or somehow incomplete. Sometimes this even leads to an unrequited love situation, if one person has strong activation of their relationship houses in synastry, while the other person has weak or no activation of their relationship houses.

Of course if there is no relationship house activation for either person in a situation, even if they have Mars conjunct Venus, the relationship will likely stay in the platonic zone. A reverse to this is also true. If you have no typical physical attraction synastry aspects with someone, and yet they activate your relationship houses very strongly, you could see them as very much your type in terms of personality and style, and yet there seems to be a spark missing... Like there’s just not enough passion to build a connection on.

The synastry of romance seems to be a rather complicated balance between each person in the relationship having all of three of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses activated in some way… And also having a couple of really nice typical physical attraction interaspects in the synastry. Both seem to be necessary for a relationship for worthwhile and viable to both parties.

THE THREE FLAVORS OF ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS.

I mentioned earlier about how the 'flavor' of a relationship is determined by which relationship houses are strongest for each person in the synastry. The symbolism of 5th, 7th, and 8th houses describe what we like on 3 different levels.

The 5th house is about romantic sparks, infatuation, courtship, and falling in love. It's that euphoric 'RUSH' we get when we first meet that special someone who impresses us big time! The 5th house is all about how and why we fell in love with someone in the first place (Most movies and romance novels are about this part of the relationship).

The 7th house is about what we view as 'partnership material' for the long term. And about who we really like and just want to be with in the most basic of ways. That feeling of tender sweet affection that we have for a loved one... That longing to embrace their whole vibe as a person, interact with them, and know them. This comes from the 7th house (The happy couples in typical American sitcoms exemplify 7th house love).

The 8th house is about the private bond that a couple builds up as they learn to trust each other. The 8th house is where we get intimate, reveal our mutual vulnerabilities, share secrets, and negotiate the power balance in the relationship. It's where we combine forces and unite with our partner, in the deepest, most complete ways possible... Sexually, emotionally, financially. (Media example of 8th house relationships? Psychological thrillers and X-rated stuff. Although, hopefully we get a more peaceful type of 8th house relationship than is typical of the average psychological thriller!! The 8th house has a gentle soothing side too).

THE TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP EXPERIENCE EACH PARTNER HAS IS DIFFERENT.

The relationship house that is strongest for each person in synastry will show how the relationship feels for them. For example, if you have your 5th house strongly influenced by your partner (Though 5th house overlays, aspects to your 5th house ruler, or your partner's natal matching the symbolism of your 5th house), then there’ll be a consistent theme in the relationship for you relating to the meaning of the 5th house: Feeling 'in love', being impressed, seeing the other person as adorable and special, a playful tone.

If your partner then has their 8th house strongly influenced in the synastry (Though 8th house overlays, aspects to their 8th house ruler, or your natal matching the symbolism of their 8th house), then there’ll be a consistent theme in the relationship for them relating to the meaning of the 8th house: Sexual attraction, trust, and getting emotional and physical security from the relationship, a serious tone.

Each person in a relationship will have a different experience of the relationship depending on house related synastry, and which relationship house is the strongest for them in the connection. Giving each person in the relationship their own unique experience of the flavor, feeling, or vibe of the relationship. Although, preferably all three of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses will still be touched to some extent for each partner, even if there’s a different emphasis in the synastry.

EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE?

Astrology is complex, so I'm sure there is more to the story... Occasionally there may be exceptions to the rule. But in the majority of cases, it's seems that what switches physical attraction producing planetary aspects from platonic to romantic, is house related synastry (And occasionally aspects to the Vertex Axis, especially conjunctions and oppositions).

House related synastry shows if a person is able to fit into the role of a romantic partner for us in very specific ways. How they are able to match our individual conceptions of courtship, partnership, and intimacy is revealed by how their chart influences these areas of life (houses) for us. If they don't influence these areas of life for us at all, they simply won't attract us much regardless of what the interplanetary synastry is.

The general trend that I've noticed is that the house person feels more the planet person, and is inspired by them. Although, I have seen a few random exceptions to this... Sometimes, for reasons unknown, the planet person will feel more for the house person. As if they personally feel it's their role to be the house person's lover/partner/intimate, and became attracted to the house person. Perhaps house related synastry goes both ways to some extent. Even if it’s usually felt more strongly on the house person's/receiving side, then on the planet person's/giving side. I think it would be interesting to explore more about what the planet person actually experiences in house related synastry, and how sensitive we really are to ‘being’ in other peoples houses, and touching their house rulers.

Another type of exception that I've noticed is that if two people have a really powerful physical attraction producing aspect... Like Sun exact conjunct Moon, or Venus exact conjunct Mars, there can be some attraction even if the 5th, 7th, and 8th house related synastry is absent. Here, it’s like the power of the aspect is so intense that it can override the 'activation switch' of the relationship houses. In these cases, you may see the person as sexy or good looking… But they won't match what your 'type' is, or fit in with your relationship ideals. As a result the connection usually goes nowhere due to lack of motivation to actually have a relationship with that person. The astrology of romantic/physical attraction is complicated stuff.

Anyway, that’s my astrological theory of why physical attraction aspects sometimes work, and sometimes don’t work, in synastry.

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Just to reemphasize, my formula is basically… Physical attraction synastry + 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation in syanstry/Vertex synastry = strong romantic attractions.

posted November 17, 2014 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
I'm so jello right now!!! --- Damn Leos

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Love your emoticons!

Yeah, he's an nVENUS in LEO. I'm digging it.

In terms of progressions, his pSUN is conjunct his nVENUS (0º); my pVENUS is conjunct my nSUN (0º), applying.

The cherry is my pVENUS is also (2º) applying to a conjunction with his nMARS (which is on my nSUN-PLUTO/BML, and his nLILITH -- and opposite his nMOON-BML.)

I should also mention that NYMPHE and EROS are both involved in our synastry, too. His MOON-BML-NYMPHE-EROS in my 8H. (His MOON-BML-NYMPHE is conjunct my PRIAPUS, in his 5H).

posted November 17, 2014 07:01 PM            

She is a Leo Sun too lol...!

posted November 17, 2014 07:03 PM            

About unrequited love…

From what I’ve noticed from lurking around at Lindaland, and just from life in general, it is quite common for aspects that are typically considered ‘romantic’ not to be felt mutually, and sometimes not even by one of the people involved. Perhaps there is an astrological reason for this that has not been discovered yet, or perhaps it has something to do with how house rulers aspect each other between charts, and what houses they fall in. There is no way to know for sure. What I do suspect is that in our life times we are fated to, or have the karma to, have certain kinds of relationships with the different people we cross paths with, and that the synastry we have with each person plays out according to connection we karmicly have to them. Like if you have a Venus/Pluto conjunction with your kung fu teacher, and you were only ever destined to be teacher and student, this conjunction may only be about him teaching you how to kill gracefully. But if you have a Venus/Pluto conjunction with someone, and you were fated to be romantically involved it may be about the strength of your attraction to each other. In the case of an unrequited attraction, one person may be fated to feel it as a strong physical attraction while the other is fated to be indifferent, or even repulsed by the other. There is no aspect that guarantees that you will be loved or not by someone else.

However once the relationship ‘type’ between two individuals is in place I’ve seen that the relationship usually plays out according to themes and issues shown in synastry. For example if you had Venus/Mars with your grandma she may hug and kiss you a lot, and give you lots of advice about relationships and romance, but certainly you are not attracted to your grandma. This is not to say that intense attraction is not common in the right situations with Venus/Mars aspects. It’s just that there is some unknown factor at work, where sometimes an aspect will function in distinctly romantic/sexual way between two people, sometimes with only one of the people, and sometimes with neither. However the energies of these two planets will still be present in the relationship but they may just function in a more platonic way. Like with positive Venus/Mars there may simply be a mutual appreciation of some type of art, or an ability to work in physical harmony. I once had a yoga instructor who had Mars opposite my Venus and I did really respect him and see him as a strong and confident person, but I didn’t have the hots for him, even though he was quite handsome.

Not that I’ve got my ramble about karma and fate etc of my chest I do what to take a look at some real and valid astrological reasons for why sometimes attractions can be lop-sided. The first reason is really basic and obvious. Hard aspects between a ‘male’ planet and a ‘female’ planet. Now the tricky part with this one is that sometime hard aspects simply point to an attraction being really intense and dramatic. There are other instances though where, usually the person with the ‘female’ planet, feels turned off by the person with the ‘male’ planet, who insists on pursuing them despite their objections.

The second, and I think most important, reason for unrequited love has to do with house overlays, and the relationships between house rulers in synastry.

House related synastry has a very powerful effect on how relationships play out. And is a very common reason why you can be attracted to someone with whom you have weak synastry, or not be attracted to someone with whom you have strong synastry. The houses most connected with attraction between the sexes are the 5th, 7th & 8th.

The Dsc relates to…
Affection/liking/completion/marriage/the most significant other in life/

The 5th relates to…
Romance/adoration/courtship/the glamour of falling in love/

The 8th relates to…
Intimacy/sex/power balance/emotional and psychological merging/

If someone else’s natal chart matches the symbolism of these houses in your chart then an attraction may occur even if the synastry is weak. If the symbolism of someone’s chart doesn't match the symbolism of these houses there is unlikely to be an attraction even if the synastry is strong. When I speak of symbolism matching I’m referring to house related synastry in three main ways. 1: Important planets in someone else’s chart fall into your the 5th, 7th or 8th houses. 2: The rulers of your 5th , 7th, or 8th houses strongly aspect important parts of the other persons chart (if it’s vise versa THEY are more likely to be attracted to you). 3: the signs prominent in connection with your 5th,7th or 8th houses show up strongly in the other persons chart. E.g. you have a Capricorn Dsc ruled by Saturn in Gemini, with Scorpio on the 5th house cusp, and Jupiter in Aquarius in the 8th… and then you wind up with Scorpio Sun with Venus in Capricorn, Moon in Gemini and Sagittarius rising… the signs and planets from the other persons chart match what is shown on your 5th, 7th and 8th houses.

For each of these houses (the 5th, 7th & 8th) check the sign on the cusp and its ruler by sign, house, and aspect, as well as what planets are within that house. People whose natal charts reflect the symbolism pertaining to these houses are the ones who resonate most with your notions of the ideal mate. This is especially true with the 7th house. Being an angular house, and the house specifically concerned with significant ‘one on one’ relationships, any connection with this house opens the door to the possibility of a long-term co-existence. The 5th and the 8th houses add to the core influence of the 7th in terms of preferences regarding what excites you about others initially, and what you need to feel close. If someone were to activate your 5th or your 8th without also connecting to the 7th in some way, they may be viewed as temporary ‘fun’ (the 5th), or as someone to help usher you through some intense experiences in life (the 8th), but the bond is unlikely to be lasting. When other peoples’ planets activate these houses either by falling in the house itself, or aspecting its ruler, they stimulate feelings in you related to the theme of that house. In terms of aspects to the house ruler, the conjunction is the most potent because there is both energy (aspect) and a symbolism (sign) fusion between the planet and the house ruler. The more important the conjuncting planet is in the partners chart the more significant the connection is.

Where the topic of unrequited love shows up in all of this is that if the are strong connections between someone else’s 5th, 7th and 8th houses and your natal chart they are very likely to be attracted to you. If your 5th, 7th and 8th houses do not also connect with their charts you may not reciprocate their feelings. And vise versa of course. Sometimes both charts connect in this way but one persons chart connects way more powerfully then the other one. In these cases the attraction might be mutual, but one person might be far more infatuated than the other one. If the charts of both people have a strong symbolism matches to each other involving the 5th, 7th and 8th houses then wonderful. This is when two people are much more likely to have a rich and fulfilling romantic relationship that goes both ways.

That being said, if the planet synastry is weak (and by weak, I mean no typical ‘romance’ aspects Sun/Moon, Venus/Mars, Moon/Mars, Venus/Uranus, Sun/Venus, and Venus/Pluto) and you do have an attraction only because of house related synastry, that attraction might always be mild as there is no planet on planet action to really get the juices flowing. Planet on planet synastry can move things from a mere appreciation to a deeper level of involvement. If you only have house overlays and house sign matches to go by there may not be enough ‘energy flow’ between you to get the relationship off the ground. On the other side of the fence, I do believe it is also possible for a really strong and potent (very tight orb) 'romance aspect' to create an attraction even if the house connections for romantic feelings (the 5th, 7th & 8th houses) are weak. In these cases, however, the reaction is likely to be that although you can see the person in question as having a certain appeal on a physical level, you may feel they are not you're type in terms of personality. Like you can see and appreciate their beauty but feel they are not right for you.

Basically, my point is that the most intense attractions are created by a combination of the right planet on planet aspects, with strong and mutual house symbolism connections for the 5th, 7th and 8th houses between peoples charts. An attraction based on house symbolism alone is mild and weak. But planet on planet ‘romance aspects’ aren’t enough to make someone feel as if they are your type without the relevant house connections. It’s a balancing act between these two factors. Good planet syanstry (typical romance aspects) is positive in any relationship but it may not have a sexual flavor unless two people’s house symbolisms connect in certain ways. If your partners 5th, 7th & 8th relate to your chart symbolically this will show how attracted to you they are likely to be.

Some other factors that I have noticed causing attraction, regardless of planet synastry, are hard aspects to the Vertex, especially the conjunction and opposition, and the partner's planets in the house symbolized by the Dsc sign. e.g. if you have an Aqua Dsc look at you 11th house to see if your partner has important planets in your 11th house, or if you have a Taurus Dsc look to see if your partners planets fall in you 2nd house etc. With regard to the nodes, connections to the south node represent the sheared past between you, and connections with the north node show how others help you grow forward.

posted November 17, 2014 07:05 PM            

My Venus in Cancer Square her Moon/Mars/Pluto in Libra.

Do you have Pluto square Mercury in your synastry???, if you do - how does it play out???

posted November 17, 2014 07:27 PM            

His 8H SUN sextile my 12H VENUS
His 5H stellium conjunct my 8H PRIAPUS
His VENUS conjunct my NNODE
His VENUS conjunct my VESTA
LUST quindecile LUST
EROS quindecile EROS
His ASC conjunct my LUST
His ASC conjunct my MARS
His MARS conjunct my SUN, PLUTO/BML
His PRIAPUS conjunct my EROS/DESTINN
His VESTA conjunct my LILITH
VESTA square VESTA
His VENUS square my URANUS/MOON
NYMPHE square NYMPHE

Regarding rulerships:

posted November 17, 2014 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
How do you experience the Cancer square Libra combination??

My Venus in Cancer Square her Moon/Mars/Pluto in Libra.

Do you have Pluto square Mercury in your synastry???, if you do - how does it play out???

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I know I've told you about the PLUTO/MERC (0º) square before. It's unique for us, because of our individual backgrounds. I'd say it plays out as mutual respect. He can't manipulate me, (and won't) and I'm too good with detecting them. Neither of us don't out of respect to the other -- if that makes sense.

As to how squares play out, that's entirely on how they're positioned.

We have two CAN square LIB points; his SUN to my SATURN, and his MERC to (yes, my PLUTO/BML).

Bear in mind, his SUN is 8H; even if not readily apparent, it carries the 8H energy, so it's going to infuse that. My SATURN is 1H. But, furthermore, my SATURN is my 5R. Any 8/5 link is likely going to express itself sexually. Just the nature of things.

And, again, his MERC is also 8H. It carries with it that same energy; my NYMPHE is also 1º conjunct it. That sexualises it pretty intensely from the start. Now, it's being square my 2H SUN-PLUTO/BML is intriguing.

2H when combined with a sexualised point in a sexual house tends to embody its more sensual elements. 2H is what we can offer as partners -- our sexual resources -- whereas the 8H is what we can receive; our partner's.

Looking at MERC/PLUTO through that lens, I'd have to say it clicks when I consider MERC is his 7R. Now that we've got the energy of his DESCENDANT involved, with his 8H, and the energy of my SUN and PLUTO -- the sexual relationship connexion unfolds. Question is -- how?

Well, PLUTO is my 3R; so there's a weird simpatico, on top of my natural SCO MERC.

Undoubtedly, our sexual relationship began very logically, with a clear approach and a lot of talking. A solid, running dialogue. We discussed everything. This was part of our 'deconstructing sex' phase. We learnt a lot, taught each other tonnes, and discovered ways to improve sex that a lot of couples, less comfortable with talking to each other plainly, may neglect to.

To me, that's MERCURY. It's going to put an intellectual spin and create a running dialogue. For us, it allowed (and still does) for us to be bluntly honest with each other about sensations, experiences, and how to improve overall. Specific details, too.

The square doesn't seem to matter overall. My PLUTO isn't afflicted, and his MERC is locked in a powerful, very sexualised T-Square in his chart. Anything hitting that MERC is going to activate the T-Square -- which is already being hit on all angles with conjunctions from my chart.

posted November 17, 2014 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Thanks Lotis...

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Your welcome,

Sorry if I overwhelmed you with all that info. The question of why attraction synastry aspects sometimes don't result in attraction comes up every now and then. Some people even have a meltdown about it and think about quitting astrology, but every time there's totally some good explanations of how that could happen.

The most common scenario of why that happens is house-related synastry, and Vertex activation. And to some extent I think fate had something to do with it.

If we were only ever fated to have a certain kind of relationship with someone then the synastry aspects we have with them will play out according to that theme.

To give an example...

Venus/Uranus conjunction could be an indicator of finding a love interest fascinatingly attractive, and having 'electric' chemistry with them. But if we had this aspect with our sociology teacher, it could be just about them illustrating for us the common trends operating in society concerning love and romance.