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margym0o
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posted November 18, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the chart of a stereotypical self-admitted "commitment-phobe":

He is 32, has all his ducks in a row, and yet talks about fearing the next step - marriage, kids etc. - yet he WANTS it so badly. He oozes love, warmth and sexuality on his good days and on his bad gets so incredibly cold, distant and defensive when you try and pry into his inner world. He blames it on failed past relationships (of which there are many) and fear of opening up only for that person to leave. He also LOVES women...loooooves women, is quite the "admirer" so to speak and yet is faithful in his relationships, really only desiring that one-on-one connection.

He is quite the walking contradiction!

Could he ever commit to one person?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 18, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow what an impressive chart!!!! what makes you think he is faithful in relationships? if he loooooves women so much?

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margym0o
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posted November 18, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I suppose nothing in life is ever certain. You can really only trust what someone tells you if you can't stalk them.

He is consumed with work and his off-hours are accounted for (for the most part) so for him to be physically cheating is unlikely. He definitely likes to LOOK, that is for sure.

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posted November 18, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well he met the love of his life at age 29.

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ikja
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posted November 18, 2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
well he met the love of his life at age 29.

How can you tell this? I'm so impressed?!

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Aubyanne
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posted November 18, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
well he met the love of his life at age 29.

You've had success with that? Huh. I'm surprised. Just never seemed to hit for me. And believe me, I have tried.

Instead, I became more impressed with the more clear marriage years.

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Aubyanne
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posted November 18, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't say he's a 'commitment-phobe' as much as he has exceptionally high standards.

I don't see him marrying unless they're working together, and more than likely on some major thing. He's liable to have an extremely spiritually adept but very, very secretive relationship, however, should he find the soulmate he's quietly seeking.

And don't believe it. He's seeking. He's just not finding.

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posted November 18, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alma conjunct Vesta. Juno conjunct Neptune and Isis opposite Venus. I'm wondering how often commitment phobes in general have aspects like this? You wouldn't expect to find such airy-fairy placements. I'm thinking of one famous example, and it's the same kind of aspects.

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posted November 18, 2014 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You've had success with that? Huh. I'm surprised. Just never seemed to hit for me. And believe me, I have tried.

Instead, I became more impressed with the more clear marriage years.


Yes. Its dead on. I met my twin flame on the exact day the aspect was exact and I haven't had any one that I have read for say that I was wrong.

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posted November 18, 2014 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
How can you tell this? I'm so impressed?!


Ask him, I guarantee he will say yes.

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ikja
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posted November 18, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Ask him, I guarantee he will say yes.

What did you use from the NC to figure that out?

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posted November 18, 2014 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The distance between the Sun and Venus..

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LoadedPistil
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posted November 18, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Ask him, I guarantee he will say yes.

Looking at guy ditched's chart. Interesting. That's exactly when we met. I kinda feel bad now
Nah. Not really.

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Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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posted November 18, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at my Father's chart! Holy crack pipes!

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Tarot Readings | Etsy
Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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ikja
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posted November 18, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
The distance between the Sun and Venus..

Hmm. I'm derailing again lol #sorry
But out of curiosity, why Sun/Venus? Why not other planets?

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margym0o
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posted November 18, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by page one:
Alma conjunct Vesta. Juno conjunct Neptune and Isis opposite Venus. I'm wondering how often commitment phobes in general have aspects like this? You wouldn't expect to find such airy-fairy placements. I'm thinking of one famous example, and it's the same kind of aspects.

What example is that?

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posted November 18, 2014 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You've had success with that? Huh. I'm surprised. Just never seemed to hit for me. And believe me, I have tried.

Instead, I became more impressed with the more clear marriage years.


it doesnt work for people who have sun and venus really close or really far a part, venus to the angles are also valid and ive also seen other aspects between venus and sun work like the trine etc

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posted November 18, 2014 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes. Its dead on. I met my twin flame on the exact day the aspect was exact and I haven't had any one that I have read for say that I was wrong.

So strange. Never worked for me, or any of my clients. Which house system are you using? I flip flop between Koch and Placidus, depending. But if we're down to degrees, that may be the issue.

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posted November 19, 2014 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wow what an impressive chart!!!! what makes you think he is faithful in relationships? if he loooooves women so much?



Saturn in the 7th are generally not cheaters. They want a committed relationship with one person.

Yes. Yes. I know. That's only one placement.

Venus in Gemini, I'm sure contributes to his duality, back & forth thoughts on commitment. Mars in Libra, he can't decide, can see the good in bad in everyone.


quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You've had success with that? Huh. I'm surprised. Just never seemed to hit for me. And believe me, I have tried.

Instead, I became more impressed with the more clear marriage years.

Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So strange. Never worked for me, or any of my clients. Which house system are you using? I flip flop between Koch and Placidus, depending. But if we're down to degrees, that may be the issue.


It certainly doesn't work for everyone for sure. It did for me. I have 28 degrees between sun & Venus. I don't know about "twinflame/love of my life, etc", but, I met my soon to be x husband when I was 28.

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posted November 19, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by page one:
Alma conjunct Vesta. Juno conjunct Neptune and Isis opposite Venus. I'm wondering how often commitment phobes in general have aspects like this? You wouldn't expect to find such airy-fairy placements. I'm thinking of one famous example, and it's the same kind of aspects.

There is a glitch here, however. As Aubyanne pointed out, he has a high and very specific feminine ideal, reflected in the placements you describe. This is one of the reasons for non-committed behavior: the presence of an ideal, an image of the ideal woman. This ideal is connected to his Yod, so either there's a woman he will really meet or met, this ideal partner, or it all pours into his Gem Venus as constant "browsing" and preoccupation. His chart is very impressive in connection to that fated Yod.

My guess is he is a bit addicted to female looks, beauty - this is a Libra challenge, sometimes.

Personally, I consider constant drooling over people's physique a form of emotional cheating, as toxic for the partner as physical cheating. The partner always feels as if the guy has his options open, as if there's always someone equally beautiful or more beautiful, someone around the corner he would like to know touch etc The nastiest thing ever - I experienced this once and it is interesting that, no matter how confident you are, as a woman or as a man, it totally erodes you with time and undermines your self-image, even if you realize it's an illusion. I wouldn't experience this ever again.

I also consider this habit connected to women consumerism and objectifying and the idealization of looks and empty form.

I also consider this habit unfair to the partner and plain rude, incompatible with love and romance. I wouldn't do it before my partner unless it's on purpose (haha for jealousy or revenge) - otherwise, why would I give my partner the impression there's some other beautiful attractive men in the world since I chose him out of million others? It's the same with making a fool of myself, in my view. Do I not know what I want? My love for him is not in his looks. People who are not in love with someone in particular and are fascinated by human beauty in general should stay the hell single, at a window and watch. Leave the rest of us experience love as love should be.

sorry for my angry rant, I remembered the nasty experience I had with one of those.

Lucie, Saturn in 7th can also mean celibacy, IMO.


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I'm so cappy
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posted November 19, 2014 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are 16 degrees between my Sun and Venus. Wait...is that guy I met online when I was 16 "the love of my life"??? Hm, it's more likely than I'd like it to be.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted November 19, 2014 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Lucie, Saturn in 7th can also mean celibacy, IMO.


Bite your fingers! That'll never happen with this Saturn in 7th girl. LOL

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posted November 19, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Bite your fingers! That'll never happen with this Saturn in 7th girl. LOL


I have Saturn on DSC myself. It's more like a self-imposed celibacy until finding the right partner and being picky, wanting the real deal, rather than a lack of suitors.


Saturn in 7th is hard to commit because it takes partnerships very seriously. It is also a placement for people preferring to be alone rather than in an unsuitable partnership.
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posted November 19, 2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cappy!!

I did mine, it was 22 degrees from Sun-Venus... I won't do Sun-Moon or Venus-Mars, because I'll be more than 60... I want to have kids!!! lol

No nothing happened in the 22th year of my life!!! I'll wait my Saturn Return!! lol

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
There are 16 degrees between my Sun and Venus. Wait...is that guy I met online when I was 16 "the love of my life"??? Hm, it's more likely than I'd like it to be.


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posted November 19, 2014 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have Saturn on DSC myself. It's more like a self-imposed celibacy until finding the right partner and being picky, wanting the real deal, rather than a lack of suitors.

Saturn in 7th is hard to commit because it takes partnerships very seriously. It is also a placement for people preferring to be alone rather than in an unsuitable partnership.


My Sat is also on DSC, 4 deg (I think).

That's funny, I was going to write the same thing.

I agree. Except, I think dating is fun. I can tell rather quickly if there is potential or not. If not then I don't usually go past a couple of dates as I don't see the point really. Lots turn into friends, others I just delete completely.

Seeing the original chart in the first post I can see the man's issue about committing. Probably because he can't really figure out who his suitable partner really is.


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