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venuscorpio86
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posted December 09, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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venuscorpio86
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posted December 09, 2014 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 09, 2014 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think because your venus in scorpio..

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posted December 09, 2014 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venusscorpio
I'm not very experienced but I think you have a very active synastry.
Mars square Venus is very intense. It seems to be an exact square, right?

"Venus square other person's Mars

This is likely to be a stormy and fiery relationship. The romantic attraction between you is very strong, but your feelings are often not in tune with each other. One of you (typically the Mars person but sometimes the Venus person) may feel sexually aroused by the other and consequently be too aggressive in approach, while the other person feels great love and affection, but is not feeling as sexually attracted. The conflict here is all in the timing. The Venus person may sometimes find the Mars person comes on too strong, and is often offended or taken aback by his or her directness. Jealousy and possessiveness are also likely. Feelings can swing back and forth and you may not realize how much you love each other until you are away from each other."

When it is the woman's Mars and the man's Venus it is the woman that is mostly doing the chasing.

Moreover, your Mercury, ruler of 5th and 8th is exactly squared by his Ascendant ruler, Saturn. Seems that his presence stimulates your need for romance and sex.

Please post your Composite as well.
If I'm not mistaken you have a 10th house Sun/Venus/Mercury/Pluto conjunction opposite Mars in IC, square Moon in 7th house, forming a grand square! This is very sexual.

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posted December 09, 2014 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I just noticed you were born just a couple of hours before a friend of mine!
She has a Virgo Moon and Leo Ascendant.
Tightest aspect: Mercury trine Jupiter. And with all this scorpio and sag planets and 1st house Moon, she is a very expressive girl.

As I've already told you, I think your Mercury is very important in romantic synastries.

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posted December 09, 2014 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi venusscorpio.. I lost a longer reply I was writing to you :/
The gist of what I said was that you have two really positive aspects that jump at me. The first is Mercury conjunct Mercury and the other is the Venus/Mars double whammy. In my opinion one of the best aspects you can have in a relationship is a close Mercury2Mercury aspect, because communication runs smoothly - and whatever problems come up between you - can always be discussed and aired out. You are extremely similar on an intellectual level and have similar views and interests so you could probably talk for hours on end. If you ever talk to him about astrology, I'm positive he would love it!

I have a Pisces Mercury myself and I always have an instant connection with fellow water Mercuries. The Mercury2Mercury aspects are always nice but... (and I know I'm biased) they seem to have a special 'somethin somethin' in the element of water
Water is a very intuitive, psychic element so having your Mercuries conjunct in a water sign - you could easily feel like you read each other's minds. You both probably love starring into each other's eyes and can communicate non-verbally. You are deep people with deep eyes - and you recognise that in each other. I also have a theory that a person's eyes are primarily ruled by the Moon and Mercury. I can almost always, 9 times out of 10, tell if another person has a water Moon or Mercury in aspect to my own Mercury... It seems obvious to me in their eyes because there is something very familiar about them.

The Venus/Mars aspects are intense and attractive on a romantic level. If you didn't have the Mercury conjunction, I could see this as an on/off relationship with much passion - a love/hate rollercoaster ride. But because you are, so much so, on the same wavelength mentally and you can talk about anything under the Sun - I believe that this core friendship between you would be long lasting. You could never treat each other badly or break up permanently because you have so much respect for the other person and truly appreciate their input. Once you get close - if you are apart, you'll miss each other because it would be like losing a best friend.

Do you know him pretty well at the moment - or did you meet recently?

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posted December 09, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think his Saturn in your 1st squaring your Pluto stellium, on his Mercury, is not a good combo here It may bring rejection from his part.

Plus your Mars sq his Scorpio Venus makes you chase him, as twinky says, while his Mars is not very motivated. Scorpio Venus people do not like to be chased, specially men, it activates power playing in them and generally Scorpio people have some contempt for someone showing too much they're into them.

His Mars likes Aries Venus or Sun.

Your Scorpio stellium gives you a tendency to get a little bit obsessed about people who reject you and mistake this for genuine affection. I'm Plutonian myself and I know how it works It makes you want to have the upper hand and win him over and it makes you mistake this for genuine interest.

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posted December 09, 2014 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think there's a Venus/Mars DW here...the trine seems to be with Mercury from what I see.

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Odette
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posted December 09, 2014 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But they are both Scorpionic (they have the same stellium) - and he has Cancer going on - on top of that.. and we all know how highly emotional and clingy Cancer influence can be. Mainly Cancer Moon!
What made you think he rejected her?

I had an exact Mars square Venus aspect (my Mars/his Venus) with my long term ex and we never chased each other. We drifted into a relationship. We also had Moon conjunct Moon, Mercury trine Mercury and Moon sextile Mercury DW. Other aspects can change the Venus/Mars dynamic.

I would use a wider orb on the Venus trine Mars because her Venus is part of a stellium.

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posted December 09, 2014 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What effect would his venus conjunct my sun I have...I thought with that the venus would find the sun person highly attractive the perfect mate look wise

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posted December 09, 2014 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo - You mentioned Aries Venus and Aries Sun. Honestly a guy with Cancer Moon and Mars would have the worst relationship in the world with an Aries woman. I don't think it could get much worse.
Cancer loves Scorpio. There's a lot of chemistry between these signs.

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posted December 09, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the Sun/Venus - it's out of sign - since your Sun is in Sagittarius and his Venus is in Scorpio - but there are a lot of indications he would find you attractive anyway.
You should get to know him and get closer! It sounds like you haven't talked much yet.

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posted December 09, 2014 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
You mentioned Aries Venus and Aries Sun. Honestly a guy with Cancer Moon and Mars would have the worst relationship in the world with an Aries woman. I don't think it could get much worse.
Cancer loves Scorpio. There's a lot of chemistry between these signs.


Not this guy, in my opinion. He has a Cardinal T/square with personal planets he wants/needs to complete and this is what makes him commit. We've already discussed, with Venus, a rejection situation with this guy on another thread

I didn't say Mars sq Venus is bad per se, on the contrary, it's a great aspect to have, but when the woman is Mars, there are sometimes problems because she goes after the guy.

I don't think trines rule astrology and all Scorpios are into Cancers or Pisces or viceversa. It depends on each natal chart. IMO, each planet needs the energy reflecting the one they already have in their chart: in this case, a cardinal T/square with Mars feels completed only with a Venus Moon maybe Sun on the missing leg - at least this is their best option, the ideal scenario. Of course, real life implies astrological compromises of all kinds.

I really don't like the Saturn Pluto stellium sq in this synastry, falling in her 1st and on their Mercuries. Not all conjunctions are what one needs.

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posted December 09, 2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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We've already discussed, with Venus, a rejection situation with this guy on another thread

Oh I missed that thread. I'm sorry to hear that.


I actually really like your synastry Venus! Plus your individual natal charts have some similar patterns and you also have the love stellium in composite (Sun/Venus/Merc conjunct).
Did he straight forwardly reject you or is he simply acting weird?
Cancer Mooners are very moody.

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posted December 09, 2014 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I like in this synastry, is the Sun/Venus coupled with the Sun trine Mars...very very nice, too bad that conjunction is OOS. The Moon trine to her stellium is a great aspect to have, not for him though. The Kite she makes with his Mars is not bad either; but I'm afraid his chart really requests a lot of cardinal energy in his partner. a girl with Sun/Venus in Aries/Pisces for his Mars Pluto stellium water trine and his cardinal T/square.

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posted December 09, 2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He didn't flat out reject me.....just was acting weird so I told him off ....he works a lot based on what his social media page the working a lot is true I guess. I dont understand how or why he woukd reject me if he is the 1 who initiated started contact and showed interest first I didn't

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posted December 09, 2014 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't say he rejected you, although from your threads and what we discussed I understood he had a rejection attitude during your last messages. What I wanted to say here is that the Saturn combo on Mercuries and the rest I described coupled with Mars/Venus sq could lead to rejection from his part.

Well, now you have different opinions here, this is not a bad thing.

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posted December 09, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....I was rude and told him off in the messages cussed him out so ......he of course got mad who wouldn't I thought maybe this synastry was good from little I know guess not..especially since his venus touches my sun I thought that made venus super attracted to the sun person

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posted December 09, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I thought maybe this synastry was good from little I know guess not..

Wait. Have I suddenly gone invisible?

It *is* good synastry from many perspectives. First and foremost because you have such a close Mercury/Mercury conjunction, so if you want to sort things out - remember the door is always open. I'm sure he'll get over this argument. Martian Mercuries always have heated arguments. It won't be such a big deal. Give it some time. Scorpio is fixed so they can take more time than Aries Mercury to 'forget it' - but he *will* eventually.

This is a thread I made on the importance of Mercury aspects ages ago, under my old nick: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203016.html

You also have the much talked about love stellium in your composite chart. This is a very good indication of lasting friendship and love between two people. Read more about it here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209763-15.html

Also, many astrologers stress the importance of having compatible natal patterns. You guys have a lot in common in your individual natal charts, quite apart from the synastry.
I mean everyone has hard aspects and problems - but with so many deep, understanding and caring connections (You have Moon/Venus in aspect as well btw!) ... these are not things that can't be overcome.

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posted December 09, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo in this context, the Saturn squaring their Mercuries isn't such a big deal imo. These are issues he has dealt with throughout his life, since he has it in natal. She has Mercury trine Jupiter so the conj in synastry also trines her Jupiter. She can really help him lighten up and talk about things he has kept bottled up for years. His Scorpio Mercury doesnt only 'like' but also -needs- her Jupiter in Pisces.
I'm not worried about Saturn/Pluto either since they are both very Plutonian people and wouldnt shy away from an intense relationship. They both have a placement in Aquarius squaring the others' Scorpio stellium. It's no biggie - They can see each other's pov very clearly and there is mutual respect. Her Aquarius Mars trines his Sun anyway - and they have a Saturn/Saturn sextile.

Everyone has free will, so people can make and break relationships - but I think this synastry is very promising.

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posted December 09, 2014 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed another positive thing. He lacks fire in his chart and you have 4 planets in fire including Uranus on his NN. He would be very fascinated by you and drawn to your energy. You both have fire sign North Nodes - so you are walking a similar path in this life time. You can help him become more expressive/direct and also more assertive. He feels confident and generally optimistic when he is with you. On his own - he can tend towards depression, but you really seem to brighten up his world.

I wouldn't give up on him yet. If you haven't talked since your argument and he seems upset - just wait a few days and try to strike up a conversation again - and tell him you care about him and didn't mean to hurt his feelings. Cancer Moon is one of the most over-sensitive Moon signs. You have to tone down your Sagittarian 'truth' with him at times.. Because he can't always handle the truth, unless it's slightly sugar coated.

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posted December 09, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might be mistaken, but I'm going to bet you have a lot of composite conjunctions: SUN, VENUS, MARS, with PLUTO, and possibly making a square to the MOON. Hard to tell.

That can be very driving.

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posted December 09, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No idea...but wish he liked me found me irresistible attractive the perfect woman....

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posted December 09, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are more important things in life ^

A guy could think you are irresistible and get over you next week - if that's all you have. Sun conjunct Venus is pretty superficial. I've had it many times both ways - my Venus/their Sun and vice versa. It's not all that it's cracked up to be.
You synastry has more substance, which I think is a good thing, unless you just wanted a fun fling.
But it's also *mutually* sexually attractive.

I think you are really over-thinking this. Just give it some time and contact him again and all will be good.

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