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Topic: Could they be twinflames ? (yes I said it)
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ueharaa
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posted December 14, 2014 09:55 AM
  
This is because of a weird dream that I asked myself this question.
See I woke up one day and I had dreamed that this woman and man were having twins, male twins, born two days apart. I found the occurrence of the number 2 weird.
I then looked for her birth date and put up the chart and this is what I found:Note that I don't have their birth time this the tropical synastry:
his sun on her venus/mars midpoint
sun trine moon
venus quincunx moon/pluto
her moon might be in the late cap rather than early aqua which would make it somehow conjunct his NN [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/Nausicaa7/astro_61gw_02_115_mae_xab8 318524902.jpg[/IMG] Draconic synastry:
This is where I simply got amazed.
Exact sun/sun opposition
and although a bi twide but a DW of venus/pluto conjunction that are opposite one another!!! His draconic VEnus/pluto opposition is on his tropical NN so that would make her draco venus and draco pluto hit this axis too !! Yes the orb is wide but still right?
Besides if her moon is in late cap then that would make her draco moon late libra which would in turn complete the venus/pluto DW opposition in a t-square!!! (and her tropical pluto is already in late libra at 29°libra) [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/Nausicaa7/astro_61gw_02_115_mae_xab8 317323813.jpg[/IMG] the composite: [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/Nausicaa7/astro_621gw_02_115_mae_xa b8336241291.jpg[/IMG] Sidereal synastry:
I am not going to put the chart up because there is't the degree on it BUT what I found extremely wow was that his sidereal chart is a lot like her tropical chart:
her tropical sun:19°pisces his sidereal sun: 18°pisces
her tropical venus: 20° aries his sidereal venus: 23° aries
her tropical pluto: 29°libra his sidereal pluto/moon: 25°libra
her tropical NN: 1°cancer His sidereal NN: 0°cap I don't know about you but I found all of this really uncanny. Other factors:
She's a bit older than him
She comes from a completely different background and a country far away
There probably was some obstacles as both have ended long term relationships (he, someone he has a kid with, she, her marriage partner)
things got really fast between them especially considering the background story of each. And in their progressed synastry, she is having a progressed sun on her natal venus which in turn widely conjunct his sun
His progressed moon has entered libra while hers will enter aries pretty soon. So what do you think??? IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted December 14, 2014 09:58 AM
tell me if you don't have access to the charts, I'll try to fix it IP: Logged |
Keela
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posted December 14, 2014 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
tell me if you don't have access to the charts, I'll try to fix it
Just hit edit once. You don't need to even change anything if the code is fine, the board just seems to do that with photos at times, not "register" them until after an edit. The first one I glanced at via the link looked quite small to look at details though but we'l see how they look once here.
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ueharaa
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posted December 14, 2014 11:40 AM
it doesn't seem to be working. I think this is the right way to post pics thoughIP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted December 14, 2014 02:06 PM
I don't think so. I do think, however, you may be finding yourself 'midwife' to their destiny. Either they're soulmates (which looks possible, from the SATURN-MOON, though, that could change with TOB) or you've 'ushered' these new souls in, and are helping them find their way. Especially by your receiving the word (through dream) of these new souls which are ready to be born. How is your synastry with each of them? Do you feel a bit like a 'motherly' influence here? Like a Great Mother figure? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted December 14, 2014 02:08 PM
Have you seen the synastry and composite with my Twin, ueharaa? Lavender's is good to review, too. They have a different pattern than he and I do, but you'll notice the markers rather straight-away. Even in planets alone. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted December 14, 2014 02:29 PM
I will say ONE thing, that I found rather boggling; his sidereal does mimic a great deal of my tropical natal. It makes logical (mathematical) mathematical sense -- but I found it interesting.IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted December 16, 2014 09:31 AM
I haven't analyzed that many TF charts to know for sure, but from the few I've looked at, they all have the yin/yang symbolism down.
Both via natal patterns and synastry.
The TF asteroids are always prominent too, but they can be just as prominent in soulmate charts.
I think the main thing to look for would be an abundance of yin/yang symbolism. The charts would seem as though they just interlock like a perfect fit. This synastry to me feels more like karmic soulmates.  IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted December 16, 2014 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Have you seen the synastry and composite with my Twin, ueharaa? Lavender's is good to review, too. They have a different pattern than he and I do, but you'll notice the markers rather straight-away. Even in planets alone.
Heh you think so? I didn't think ours was that obvious. It tends to confuse a lot of people. Lol IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted December 16, 2014 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I will say ONE thing, that I found rather boggling; his sidereal does mimic a great deal of my tropical natal. It makes logical (mathematical) mathematical sense -- but I found it interesting.
Ours does too. And the small number of TF charts I've checked, it's the same for them so there could be something to it IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted December 16, 2014 09:42 AM
then the 23° of angular distance would need to play a role somehow. I noticed that my secondary chart (arabic parts chart) is very similiar to my sidereal one, but that is easy to explain, as the angular distance between my ASC and Sun (which is the basis for the secondary chart) is 19° and the sidereal and tropical chart are at a distance of 23° approximately of each other. BTW I agree on Yin/Yang, but want to remind you to also transfer that to the Yin-Yang- display on the houselevel (houserulership etc.). BTW Mr Sag`s sidereal chart displays - very very roughly- some similiarities to my tropical, though not as close aspectwise, more signwise. His sidereal Venus is still in Capricorn, but now it is conjunct my tropical Venus by 4 degrees. his sidereal Sun, Moon, MC are still in Sagittarius, roughly grouped around my Mars-ASC (and Amor). all within 4 degree orb as well. his sidereal Mars-Jupiter-Amor opposing my tropical Moon rather closely, and his sidereal Eros conjuncts my tropical Moon by 3 degrees
but anyway, I don`t want to derail the thread. lol
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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted December 16, 2014 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
then the 23° of angular distance would need to play a role somehow. I noticed that my secondary chart (arabic parts chart) is very similiar to my sidereal one, but that is easy to explain, as the angular distance between my ASC and Sun (which is the basis for the secondary chart) is 19° and the sidereal and tropical chart are at a distance of 23° approximately of each other. BTW I agree on Yin/Yang, but want to remind you to also transfer that to the Yin-Yang- display on the houselevel (houserulership etc.).
Yup 
How can I forget about houserulerships. 
I'm obsessed with them nowadays lol. And that's quite interesting I never heard of secondary-charts before. I'll look into it further. And speaking of the 23° angle, it's close to a semi-octile, which is an aspect of 22°30. Here what a website said about it: "These aspects are based on the division of the circle of the zodiac by sixteen and are related to the 8th-harmonic aspects (semisquare and sesquiquadrate). All are considered "hard" or "stress" aspects. Many Uranian astrologers use only the semioctile and its multiple aspects, including the sesquioctile and 112.5° (112°30'), and 157.5° (157°30'), aspects, claiming that they are not "minor." " But then again it also depends on what orbs we use when comparing the natals to the sidereals. They have to be super-tight in order to be considered a 16th harmonic aspect. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted December 16, 2014 01:07 PM
Not saying that we are TFs, but our sidereals and dracos mirror our tropical charts, either directly by sign or through sign/house symbolism. I am preparing a thread about Draco mirroring. Well, I noticed that too with other couples.When it comes to sidereal, the sign mirroring is: my sid ASC in Sag on his tNN exact his 5th stellium is in Cap, on my tASc (he has Venus Ceres Juno Eros there) with his sJuno on my ASC exact, to the second his sMars in Taurus on my tIC (2) my sNN on his tMoon (3) etc.
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Aubyanne
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posted December 16, 2014 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Not saying that we are TFs, but our sidereals and dracos mirror our tropical charts, either directly by sign or through sign/house symbolism. I am preparing a thread about Draco mirroring. Well, I noticed that too with other couples.
Really? I'm looking forward to that thread, because I HAVE noticed sidereal / tropical mirroring. Not Draco-Tropical mirroring. That is unless you're counting, say, drMOON conjunct nSUN; or nMOON conjunct drASC. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted December 16, 2014 03:40 PM
I remember the man I believed to be my twinflame (I was 15, and well obviously I was wrong  ) ahs a tropical chart that mirrors my Draco chart. his t Sun: 16 Aries
my Dr Sun: 15 Aries his tMercury: 08 Aries
my Dr Mercury: 14 Aries his t Mars: 20 Pisces
my Dr Mars: 25 Pisces his t ASC: 25 Pisces
my Dr ASC: 26 Pisces only Moon and Venus miss the boat- signwise his tMoon: 19 Taurus
my Dr Moon: 07 gemini his tVenus: 4 Taurus
my Dr Venus: 26 Aries IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted December 16, 2014 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I don't think so. I do think, however, you may be finding yourself 'midwife' to their destiny. Either they're soulmates (which looks possible, from the SATURN-MOON, though, that could change with TOB) or you've 'ushered' these new souls in, and are helping them find their way. Especially by your receiving the word (through dream) of these new souls which are ready to be born. How is your synastry with each of them? Do you feel a bit like a 'motherly' influence here? Like a Great Mother figure?
Midwife to their destiny? Oh I certainly hope NOT! I don't know the girl and well, the guy is someone I used to be infatuated with. Anyway, things turned sour,there certainly was some huge misunderstanding and amid this I realized things were going really fast between the two of them which like I said was odd considering their background. Anyway, if I have to be really honest I think part of me thought "okay, maybe they're each other rebound and they'll find a way back to their ex" (which I thought would be best considering he has a very young kid with her)
AND this is when I dreamt of this!
I know I sound crazy or stupid but it was like here's your answer, I didn't specify this but I remember that in my dream when I learned they were having twins, it was like the "ah ah " moment 'this is why!"
everything made sense (in my dream)
I don't usually dream of anyone having babies, don't dream about him neither (I did years ago when I was very infatuated with him and missed him but I guess that was just part of missing someone)
Either way I was a bit confused and that hit me "twins" born "2" days apart.. (is that even possible?) this is why I looked at their chart and found the dracos with this DW venus/pluto backed up with venus/venus and pluto/pluto quite surprising!
Besides his Sidereal mimics her tropical chart it's uncanny.
So I thought maybe they're twinflames or super soulmates. As you know I'm a bit skeptical about the concept of twinflames (I believe in it but I am not sure if the description given on the web are accurate) But thinking about it now, I realize if twinflames have to be mature to come together, then it clearly doesn't seem to be his case. As for the synastry with each of them, I have some aspects with each but nothing outstanding I think.
As for whether I feel like a motherly influence, I don't. Like I said I honestly think it would be best if he got back together with the mother of his kid. I can not help but empathize with her and his child, and I think the whole thing is just sad. IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted December 16, 2014 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Have you seen the synastry and composite with my Twin, ueharaa? Lavender's is good to review, too. They have a different pattern than he and I do, but you'll notice the markers rather straight-away. Even in planets alone.
No I haven't seen them;
Do you mid giving me the links so I know what to look for next time
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ueharaa
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posted December 16, 2014 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Not saying that we are TFs, but our sidereals and dracos mirror our tropical charts, either directly by sign or through sign/house symbolism. I am preparing a thread about Draco mirroring. Well, I noticed that too with other couples.
That would be really interesting.
I don't know much about sidereal to tropical aspects.
I remember Ceridwen had described it as the completion of karma (is that right? )
So would it make sense that twinflames have strong sidereal to tropical? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted December 18, 2014 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
That would be really interesting.
I don't know much about sidereal to tropical aspects.
I remember Ceridwen had described it as the completion of karma (is that right? )
So would it make sense that twinflames have strong sidereal to tropical?
Sidereal to tropical, yes. Draco to tropical, no. I'm not even sure why exactly. It may be the links of karma to the present. It shows what's outstanding. I'm with Lavender on getting more of a feeling of karmic soulmates for these two, though. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted December 18, 2014 03:00 AM
I suppose there can be different opinions on that, depending on which zodiac you see as the karmic one and how your take on twinflames and karma is. IP: Logged |
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