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babybull82
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posted December 20, 2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this might sound strange, but I really wish there was a way to somehow, some way cut emotional AND spiritual ties with someone. There was a guy I met at work about 3 yrs ago ( I no longer work at this job) And I swear for a yr I was in love with him. I'd occasionally dream about him and the dreams would feel so real. Like I could feel his touch, hear his voice. Crazy stuff..

Anyway fast forward to now, a little after I left that job I tried to stay in touch with him and he responded to one email and then I never heard from him again. Sometime last Christmas I wished him a happy holidays..nothing. Well earlier this yr I did a purge of my fb and all that and decided to delete him..but I sent him one more message and again he just ignored me, so I let it go. Well like a month later I have this bizarre dream where he tells me never to cut him from my life again..like the dream left me dumbfounded all day lol.

Well annoyingly enough I've been thinking of him again and having a few dreams..I even had a dream he was going to be a father!! Anyway I'd just really love it if there was a way I could cut ties with him. We aren't friends anymore, he totally ignored me when I reached out to him. I'd really like it if I could just forget about him all together lol Does anybody have any ideas on how I can do this?

I'm the blue, he's the red..


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scropiojunkie85
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posted December 20, 2014 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure you want to break ties with him? It seems more like you want to hear that you can't. I have a relationship that had some of those undertones and he's still a huge part of my life. The more I work out my own issues the closer her gets. I realized he was functioning as a mirror in my life showing me everything that I didn't like about myself. Now, I like me so I get to truly experience him and that compulsion has worn off. I just feel love now, which doesn't consume me or require medication to handle.

You'll break ties when you learn whatever lesson you need to learn through him.

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posted December 20, 2014 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry you're going through this. The synastry looks so painful. If you are into the idea, I would suggest you research some cleansing rituals, and practice putting up a protective psychic shield. You also need a lot of healing. For that I use rhodonite and blue lace agate. For the shields I meditate and envision fire surrounding me.. because that's my element I also use a grid of ferrite around my bed to protect myself during sleep and upon waking
I've also had to cut a tie, and it's still not completely cut after almost a year, but it helps for me to simply request that you "clear the air" with the other person. Use sage and something that helps with the third eye chakra like labrodorite, and something that heals you at the same time, like blue lace agate. Candles are also good during these rituals. And mugwort flower essence in teas helps to clear your mind so you can envision better.

This is just what works for me. But I think if you research and go to places where you can find herbs and crystals than you'll be drawn to something that works for your own energy.
I wish you well

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posted December 20, 2014 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scropiojunkie85:
Are you sure you want to break ties with him? It seems more like you want to hear that you can't. I have a relationship that had some of those undertones and he's still a huge part of my life. The more I work out my own issues the closer her gets. I realized he was functioning as a mirror in my life showing me everything that I didn't like about myself. Now, I like me so I get to truly experience him and that compulsion has worn off. I just feel love now, which doesn't consume me or require medication to handle.

You'll break ties when you learn whatever lesson you need to learn through him.


I think scropiojunkie85 is right on based on your Moon Mars conjunction square the man's Mars. This suggests you push each other's buttons. The Pluto Saturn conjunction also suggests the two of you bring up "shadow" material in each other. The "shadow" represents the unconscious parts of ourselves we don't like and most often repress. So, when two people bring up these split off parts of themselves, it can feel rather disturbing or threatening on a deep level. You both could be triggering deep seated insecurities and/or defenses that may or may not even be conscious. But, I think how much contact you had with each other would be a factor in how these energies would manifest or play out.

Because it looks like both your Moon and Saturn are being triggered, your vulnerability and/or insecurities are being brought to the surface. Saturn typically wants to shut down or put up a wall in these kinds of situations. But, if you are willing to allow some discomfort, this is an opportunity to learn about yourself and grow in self awareness and understanding.

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babybull82
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posted December 20, 2014 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea when I posted this question I definitely had the idea in mind I want to break ties. Like someone mentioned it was/is very painful. After I deleted him I also blocked him from my fb not that he probably cared or noticed but I did it as a healing thing. After awhile I undid it & I was ok but then the dreams started again about a month later.

I noticed that when we worked together & we talked everyday no dreams, it was rare, but now I may have one twice a week. I feel like I should just forget about him because he's done the same to me. Our whole "friendship" work thingy was odd from the start. This man would come to my desk EVERY SINGLE DAY to say good morning to me until he changed departments after 6mos. Even then he would still come downstairs to pass my desk on his way to visit someone else & then talk to me on his way back. He made a big deal once because I didn't wish him a happy birthday lol. Everywhere I'd be there he was. I recently finally decided to visit some friends who still work there & although I didn't see him I felt his presence & I'm sure he could feel mine too.

I remember being soo confused about whether or not he liked me because he never made any moves. So I assumed he didn't. Liking him for that yr was pure torture.

The more I talk about this the more I realize how much pain I've been harboring. I've never had anybody have that many planets in my 12th & I see now I don't like it. Also now I know for a fact he's dating a co-worker there & I guess that's painful too.

To be honest I have a lot if unfinished "business" with that job in general. I never really dealt with the loss of it. I also cut somebody else off that I was close to there & I had a dream about her too asking me why I cut her off.

At one point I thought about writing him a letter & just letting him know how I felt about him & how tortured I was for that year but of course I decided against it. I just want to be done with it.

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posted December 20, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon-Neptune.

Had this aspect with a colleague whom I did not like...especially once I saw the aspect and realized it was them I'd been dreaming about. It made me angry - felt like a violation. To stop this I resolved to attack them the next time they showed up in a dream. Next thing I knew I was dreaming, they were in it then something switched on and I attacked ; hitting and punching at them until I woke up.

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posted December 20, 2014 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Moon-Neptune.

Had this aspect with a colleague whom I did not like...especially once I saw the aspect and realized it was them I'd been dreaming about. It made me angry - felt like a violation. To stop this I resolved to attack them the next time they showed up in a dream. Next thing I knew I was dreaming, they were in it then something switched on and I attacked ; hitting and punching at them until I woke up.


Wow!

We have a double whammy so that may mean he dreams of me too. I heard that a person whose planets fall into another's 12th feels weirded out by the connection. We didn't dislike each other we'd talk all the time but then again maybe he really couldn't stand me & was just be nice. Perhaps that explains the silence now.

I'm going to try the suggestions here to break the tie. It just makes me miserable when I wake up.

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posted December 20, 2014 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, wow to that too.
Funny cos I dream fairly often of a person whose Moon squares my Neptune..do you think the actual aspect matters Nine, or just the fact that there's a connection?

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Aubyanne
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posted December 22, 2014 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless it's your Twin, you can sever the energetic 'cord' between you. Takes time, dedication, and staying firm. But you can certainly do so.

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babybull82
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posted December 22, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Unless it's your Twin, you can sever the energetic 'cord' between you. Takes time, dedication, and staying firm. But you can certainly do so.

What's crazy to me is that just by knowing him and interacting with him the "cord" is there in the first place. We've never been intimate or anything of that sort..can you just imagine how much more painful this would be if we were?? *shivers*

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posted December 22, 2014 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by babybull82:
What's crazy to me is that just by knowing him and interacting with him the "cord" is there in the first place. We've never been intimate or anything of that sort..can you just imagine how much more painful this would be if we were?? *shivers*


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Originally posted by babybull82:
What's crazy to me is that just by knowing him and interacting with him the "cord" is there in the first place. We've never been intimate or anything of that sort..can you just imagine how much more painful this would be if we were?? *shivers*

Well, having had several extremely intense spiritual relationships -- many of which continued and evolved purely on the astral plane -- this was truly shocking to me. I kinda thought I'd understood the gist of such things. Apparently, this I was not ready for.

For days, I couldn't figure it out, either. It was only comparable to one other event in my life, upon which I look back with suspicion and great scepticism. (Well, I HAD. Before this.) That was a psychic attack in my teens. (Loooong story.)

I felt half-dead. As if the spirit was gone. I just wasn't myself. So depleted. I was suddenly run down; falling ill. It was horrible. I mentioned it around here somewhere, with the addendum 'don't do it!' Like the worst flu out of nowhere. Whatever it is, you want it to stop.

Happened within hours of my privately meditating to disconnect, and only relieved after I pretty much shouted to the Universe, 'okay! I get it! I'm sorry!' I emailed him, too. I don't recall what I said, but it boiled down to calling a truce and apologising in a few ways.

Not an experience I will ever repeat. We can become surprisingly insular, too. I'd no idea, until discovering a few days past, that he was suddenly ill as well. That drove it all home for me. He was just as drained, depressive and out of it I was. Now, we'd always find ourselves getting colds and what-not around the same time -- within 12 hours of each other, only learning of it at a later point.

What it taught me was to try and appreciate this for the blessing it is; the purpose it serves. And don't think for a moment he's easy-peasy to deal with. Quite the opposite! Very emotionally abusive for years. Years. It became too much to endure. I wanted out.

But that's not an option. Through; not around, nor over or under it. Straight through. I'm grateful now. It's taken us nearly a decade to get here. Luckily, it's worth it.

You'll find many are not. Anyone who abuses you or treats you anything less than you deserve -- is never worth it.

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posted December 24, 2014 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, having had several extremely intense spiritual relationships -- many of which continued and evolved purely on the astral plane -- this was truly shocking to me. I kinda thought I'd understood the gist of such things. Apparently, this I was not ready for.

For days, I couldn't figure it out, either. It was only comparable to one other event in my life, upon which I look back with suspicion and great scepticism. (Well, I HAD. Before this.) That was a psychic attack in my teens. (Loooong story.)

I felt half-dead. As if the spirit was gone. I just wasn't myself. So depleted. I was suddenly run down; falling ill. It was horrible. I mentioned it around here somewhere, with the addendum 'don't do it!' Like the worst flu out of nowhere. Whatever it is, you want it to stop.

Happened within hours of my privately meditating to disconnect, and only relieved after I pretty much shouted to the Universe, 'okay! I get it! I'm sorry!' I emailed him, too. I don't recall what I said, but it boiled down to calling a truce and apologising in a few ways.

Not an experience I will ever repeat. We can become surprisingly insular, too. I'd no idea, until discovering a few days past, that he was suddenly ill as well. That drove it all home for me. He was just as drained, depressive and out of it I was. Now, we'd always find ourselves getting colds and what-not around the same time -- within 12 hours of each other, only learning of it at a later point.

What it taught me was to try and appreciate this for the blessing it is; the purpose it serves. And don't think for a moment he's easy-peasy to deal with. Quite the opposite! Very emotionally abusive for years. Years. It became too much to endure. I wanted out.

But that's not an option. Through; not around, nor over or under it. Straight through. I'm grateful now. It's taken us nearly a decade to get here. Luckily, it's worth it.

You'll find many are not. Anyone who abuses you or treats you anything less than you deserve -- is never worth it.


So are you saying I shouldn't try to disconnect from him and just leave it as is? I know this sounds ridiculous but I wish there was some way to know if my being in his life had any affect on him at all. Through out my life it's always felt like people have had a profound affect on me, but I meant absolutely nothing to them and was just thrown away like yesterday's garbage..or that's how it feels anyway.

You know the dreams and stuff wouldn't bug me so much if he hadn't just ignored me when I tried to reach out. I get that we don't work together anymore and maybe our time of knowing each other is done, but at least acknowledge me when I reach out to you and it probably wouldn't even phase me if we never talked again after that..if anything astrology aside, it's just plain rude and I don't appreciate it. It just makes me think he hated me further adding to my belief that I'm just not that much of a likable person..but I know that's just my own deep seeded insecurities I'm projecting out here for the most part.

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posted December 25, 2014 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi babybull82!

Without much thought it seems to me even though it all feels complicated it is also a very simple situation. This is about self love. It makes you miserable. You gotta love yourself here and feel that he is not worth the beautiful you ... NOW. It is all in the now. It is what it is and who know what will happen later. You can let go without losing, like loving unconditionally but detache. Loving yourself is the best thing there is in the world!! This he gives to you. I would really advise you to choose YOU and get this relationships started with the beautiful you!
Of course this is my feeling. Feel for yourself and let go everything that does not resonate. <3

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posted December 25, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi babybull82!

Without much thought it seems to me even though it all feels complicated it is also a very simple situation. This is about self love. It makes you miserable. You gotta love yourself here and feel that he is not worth the beautiful you ... NOW. It is all in the now. It is what it is and who know what will happen later. You can let go without losing, like loving unconditionally but detache. Loving yourself is the best thing there is in the world!! This he gives to you. I would really advise you to choose YOU and get this relationships started with the beautiful you!
Of course this is my feeling. Feel for yourself and let go everything that does not resonate. <3

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