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posted December 28, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What astrological reason could make two good friends through many years, suddenly just blow up their whole friendship, because of 1 argument? And destroy the whole friendship?

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posted December 28, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything involving the aggravation of natal Uranus or a harsh aspect to another planet as a result of transiting Uranus? grrrrrr lol #HateUranus lol

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posted December 28, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've done that before.

Often it's because I've suppressed past grievances. Once that one argument comes along I see it as an opportunity to get rid of someone I've long ago become unhappy with.

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posted December 28, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is a big issue that I've noticed....

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posted December 28, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrologically, I suspect Mars would be involved. Also, Mercury. Possible a Mars-Sun-Uranus triangle.

Also, a progressed aspect/planet might have separated.

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posted December 28, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I've done that before.

Often it's because I've suppressed past grievances. Once that one argument comes along I see it as an opportunity to get rid of someone I've long ago become unhappy with.


Why do you think you suppressed those feelings of grieve? Do you think uranus makes you suppress something until it finally blows up? Like a volcano

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posted December 28, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@N2N if this question is related to you, you should post a chart - Perhaps a progressed composite with transits?

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posted December 28, 2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What astrological reason could make two good friends through many years, suddenly just blow up their whole friendship, because of 1 argument? And destroy the whole friendship?

NTN, hi. I would be looking at transits to both your charts. I think an important factor to consider is the Uranus-Pluto cycle we're in. I think many people are under pressures and going through turbulence and upheaval in their lives, and relationships are bound to be affected. I say this particularly when we're talking about a long-standing friendship as is your case. I'd look at what if any natal planets at about 12 degrees in cardinal signs are being impacted by Uranus-Pluto by conjunction or hard aspect.

Can you post the synastry?

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posted December 28, 2014 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why do you think you suppressed those feelings of grieve? Do you think uranus makes you suppress something until it finally blows up? Like a volcano

Mars in Taurus

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posted December 29, 2014 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm well I recently lost a close friend. We never argued but we are also completely opposite people. We have Venus square Venus in our synastry. Hers in late Scorpio, mine in early pisces. I think transit Saturn just made her crack, she started becoming very insecure and closing herself off. She deleted me off facebook, unliked my photos, thought she was superior by acting cold and passive aggressive, (she's a capricorn) and this is over me not answering a single text. I always do that, but this transit is also falling on my IC, so I guess it's time to reconstruct my home.

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posted December 29, 2014 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Hm well I recently lost a close friend. We never argued but we are also completely opposite people. We have Venus square Venus in our synastry. Hers in late Scorpio, mine in early pisces. I think transit Saturn just made her crack, she started becoming very insecure and closing herself off. She deleted me off facebook, unliked my photos, thought she was superior by acting cold and passive aggressive, (she's a capricorn) and this is over me not answering a single text. I always do that, but this transit is also falling on my IC, so I guess it's time to reconstruct my home.

hmm don't you think it's a shame that people can just cut you off just like that? I mean, if you put a lot of energy into a friendship and then suddenly it f*** up, why??

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posted December 29, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron, Chiron, Chiron

See if you have this in synastry--Chiron/personal planet

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posted December 29, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Chiron, Chiron, Chiron

See if you have this in synastry--Chiron/personal planet


Chiron is square Sun, Moon, Mars and AC... is this simply it then?

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posted December 29, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why do you think you suppressed those feelings of grieve? Do you think uranus makes you suppress something until it finally blows up? Like a volcano

I think neptune does that.
Uranus is kinda abrupt cut off after interactions reveal an undesirable quality

Neptune can breed resentment

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posted December 29, 2014 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please list the orbs of the Chiron aspects.

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posted December 29, 2014 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
I think neptune does that.
Uranus is kinda abrupt cut off after interactions reveal an undesirable quality

Neptune can breed resentment


Yes. I have strong Neptune in the natal chart.

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posted December 29, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
hmm don't you think it's a shame that people can just cut you off just like that? I mean, if you put a lot of energy into a friendship and then suddenly it f*** up, why??

It's like giving your old stuff away. You outgrow people, places, things. The person you let go of will be doing things elsewhere, and you can invest yourself in other matters. Win-Win scenario.

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posted December 31, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Hm well I recently lost a close friend. We never argued but we are also completely opposite people. We have Venus square Venus in our synastry. Hers in late Scorpio, mine in early pisces. I think transit Saturn just made her crack, she started becoming very insecure and closing herself off. She deleted me off facebook, unliked my photos, thought she was superior by acting cold and passive aggressive, (she's a capricorn) and this is over me not answering a single text. I always do that, but this transit is also falling on my IC, so I guess it's time to reconstruct my home.

I'm of a different opinion about the Venus square Venus. Even though there's a square, they're both water signs, so there is an underlying commonality between them of feeling, sensitivity, and emotional rapport. At least that's how I look at it. But without seeing the charts, I wonder if it's more about the differences between her Sun in Capricorn and your Venus in Pisces.

The closing off and insecurity is typical of a Saturn transit to Venus. Putting up a wall and going cold is also a common defense mechanism of Saturn, against an underlying insecurity and vulnerability. A very close and old friend of mine (20+ years) recently went through the Saturn transit opposing her Venus and it was pretty hard on her too. She and I had a disagreement, but we resolved it.

It sounds like this Saturn transit to her Venus is a significant factor in the break up, and could have nothing to do with you or the synastry.

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posted December 31, 2014 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Hm well I recently lost a close friend. We never argued but we are also completely opposite people. We have Venus square Venus in our synastry. Hers in late Scorpio, mine in early pisces. I think transit Saturn just made her crack, she started becoming very insecure and closing herself off. She deleted me off facebook, unliked my photos, thought she was superior by acting cold and passive aggressive, (she's a capricorn) and this is over me not answering a single text. I always do that, but this transit is also falling on my IC, so I guess it's time to reconstruct my home.

Thank you for this post...

I've been discussing about my man on this forum for a while... It's been rough time for both of us, well especially for me. We both just finished the Saturn return, and currently tSaturn is hitting his IC.

tUranus is on my Venus/Mars conjunction in Aries (this would be also opposite his Venus/Mars midpoint in Libra) as well and I wonder if this is making me feel all wary about our fate. I suddenly feel VERY insecure and lost confidence about this (long distance) relationship and starting to consider if I should move on. I am freaking out because I never had these insecure thoughts!! >.< Damn tSaturn for transiting my 12H (JUST started) - shaking up all unconscious fears and thoughts.

If I do decide to move on, yeah I guess his "home/IC" will be impacted as you said. I don't know how it will affect him though because from what he tells me he's quite happy with his new life in his new home town. I will just be suppressed in his memories and be forgotten...

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posted December 31, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add chiron to this, my Chiron conjuncts his MC in synastry (this means opposing tSaturn right now), while his Chiron conjncts my Dsc. There are few more aspects but I think these are the major ones.

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posted January 03, 2015 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Hm well I recently lost a close friend. We never argued but we are also completely opposite people. We have Venus square Venus in our synastry. Hers in late Scorpio, mine in early pisces. I think transit Saturn just made her crack, she started becoming very insecure and closing herself off. She deleted me off facebook, unliked my photos, thought she was superior by acting cold and passive aggressive, (she's a capricorn) and this is over me not answering a single text. I always do that, but this transit is also falling on my IC, so I guess it's time to reconstruct my home.

I am guilty of this (also a cap sun). If you don't answer any of my text and ignore me then I am very likely to cut you off especially more so if I am attached to the person..

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