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ReeseC
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posted December 30, 2014 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In every one of my relationships thus far, I have seen our NN/SN be placed conjunct ASC/DSC from either the 6th/12th or 1st/7th; karmic, I know, but confusing considering how they are meant to be interpreted.

For example; my ex husband and I had SN in 12th house in Virgo 6* from ASC, and NN in 6th house in Pisces 6* from DSC in Composite and Davison.

Another guy,C, had NN in Aquarius in 12th 5* from the ASC and SN in 6th house in Leo 5* from DSC in both Composite/Davison.

Most recently, D and I have SN in Virgo in 1st house 4* from ASC, and NN in Pisces in 7th house 4* from DSC in both Composite/Davison.

Are these cases of relationships based on karmic debts considering the SN is conjunct ASC(or essence) of the relationship, and the NN is conjunct the DSC? Would this mean that a lasting relationship would be hard to achieve since people are more hesitant to more towards the lessons of the NN?

I'm really confused because every romantic relationship has had the same aspect interchanged.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 30, 2014 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN/DSC is a classical relationship conjunction, it shows the common destiny (composite NN) is to be in a relationship (DSC)


The composite conjunction of ASC/DSC and NN axes is a powerful fated one, no matter the direction.
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ReeseC
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posted December 30, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
NN/DSC is a classical relationship conjunction, it shows the common destiny (composite NN) is to be in a relationship (DSC)


The composite conjunction of ASC/DSC and NN axes is a powerful fated one, no matter the direction.



But I was reading another thread between Cewiden, you, and Auby and someone said that NN conjunct a planet or angle might not ever manifest into a real relationship because it's foreign territory.

Wouldn't SN conjunct DSC indicate a stable union because it says, "I loved you before, and I will love you again"

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 30, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ReeseC:

But I was reading another thread between Cewiden, you, and Auby and someone said that NN conjunct a planet or angle might not ever manifest into a real relationship because it's foreign territory.

Wouldn't SN conjunct DSC indicate a stable union because it says, "I loved you before, and I will love you again"


Did we say that? I don't think so...I mean this would be valid in the context of very few aspects, when it's just that. But composite angle conjunct nodal axis is very powerful. Of course, it can be there in an affair too, an important one, if nothing else is there. No SINGLE aspect brings a relationship. I think what we discussed in that thread is how the conjunctions ( in synastry) to both sides of the nodal axis may play out, what the difference is. But they're both equally important and potentially binding.

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Aubyanne
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posted December 31, 2014 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I didn't say that.

SNODE's always iffy, though. 'I loved you before,' doesn't always mean 'I'll love you again' unless something is outstanding and demands resolution. But companion souls tend to bond together, lifetime through lifetime, with common goals and objectives. These can be both lovers, friends, or family.

The alignment across the composite ASC/DSC is always a potent tie, though. As Lee says, it's fated, no matter how you play it, or how long it endures.

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ReeseC
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posted December 31, 2014 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry if I've been saying this wrong-I don't know the right way to put it, but in explaining NN/SN especially in Venus conjunct NN it might lead to unrequited love, or the node person shunning the relationship due to its unfamiliarity.

I thought it would be similar having NN in the 7th house, but I was wrong.

bear with me, ladies. I'm learning, I'm learning.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 31, 2014 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry, Reese, no one is upset here...especially now! A new year begins!

The thing about unrequited love is that the synastry looks like this: there are a couple of very tight contacts (usually conjunctions or hard aspects) such as Venus conj angle, NN (it could be SN too, but mostly NN as practice shows it), a tight Pluto or Uranus contact etc, but the rest of the synastry is scattered, empty of aspects. Those tight contacts are compelling aspects, such as Venus conj NN. One of the people here (especially due to overlays or those planets being their love rulers or the person is Venus longing to be a part of NN's life or that prson is prone to unrequited, more than the other) gets hit by those tight contacts, it has a strong impact on them...but for the other, it's just an affair, or something not that important, or something to leave behind. The other is not hit, due to the lack of aspects. The interesting thing is that in most cases, if they were to be together, the person who thinks they're in love would soon feel the lack of aspects themselves and realize they're actually not a match (which is obvious from the scattered synastry), but because those tight contacts hit a nerve for them of because they're prone to unrequited love, this "in love" person doesn't realize that. This is one possible scenario for unrequited love. I'm thinking about a thread where such synastries would be displayed.

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