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MineAgain
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posted January 14, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many years ago, I dated a guy. I was a sophomore in college and he was the very first guy I ever dated.

I was very inexperienced but I liked him. It was a bit of a messy romance. We last saw each other in September 2011. He contacted me in 2012 and that's when I gave us the closure we both needed to move on.

He got engaged about 5 months later. He hasn't been able to let me go since. He sporadically contacts me and keeps adding me on social media.

I no longer have feelings for him. I don't think he and I have a deep connection although we got along very well. I don't feel connected to him on a soul level at all.

Hence, I'm kindly asking you to give me a small insight as to why he's still holding on to this story. Is there more to this connection?

Thanks!

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YellowGerbera
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posted January 14, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, THAT stellium in Scorpio....

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MineAgain
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posted January 14, 2015 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Well, THAT stellium in Scorpio....

I don't understand what this means. I don't know how to read/interpret charts.

Is the connection stronger than what I think? Or is it just "unrequited" love on his part?

I'm not sure we have any potential as a couple. The connection seems to be on a friendship level, in my opinion.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 14, 2015 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intense chart...pretty good for romance. Not bad at all! How does the composite look?

EDIT: I mean it would have been But le Monsieur with the Bouquet Ring and House waiting for you in the GT will be better (I think he's your future husband, BTW - that Monsieur)

I have to close now, I'll look at the composite tomorrow

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YellowGerbera
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posted January 14, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think this can go on at "friendship" level! You guys have beautiful synastry here.

Pluto conj Pluto in Scorpio, in its home house AND got Venus and Sun in there... Tough to break this bond for sure. Oh and Vx on Dsc...

I agree with LeeLoo *wedding bells*
No pressure or anything! LOLOL
But still, your heart will choose who you want to marry with at the end

Off topic but can I ask why asteroid "Asia" is in there? Is this long distance?

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EmGem
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posted January 14, 2015 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
beautiful!

just out of curiosity, what makes a chart 'good for romance'? do the asteroids play an important part?

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posted January 14, 2015 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aside from the venus-sun-pluto i'd rate this synastry average at best. the house overlays are poor, and someone has moon/mars in the 12th sitting opp. the others' moon. pluto-venus is highly addictive when the couple first gets together and is a really passionate attraction, but it wears off. that scorpio stellium would be the strongest reason why he might be coming around from time to time. scorpio has a hard time letting go.

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FmVenusWLove
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posted January 14, 2015 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MineAgain,
To answer your question, a stellium is when you have a close cluster (within 0-5 degrees) of three or more planets in one sign and/or house. From what I've read, stelliums create too much energy coming into the activities and affairs of the house it's located in. The individual becomes obsessively focused with the activities of that house.

I can't look at your synastry chart and judge the quality of the relationship/connection but just based on this information, I would second what Starmoon said about him not being able to let go of things easily. Assuming he is the chart in red, it looks like this man has his Sun, Venus, Mercury, and Pluto in Scorpio (fixed sign) in the 5th House. Just thinking about the natures of the 5th house and Scorpio, this could very well explain his overzealous fixation on you and your past relationship (and also might explain some of the reasons your relationship with him was "messy").

The 5th house expresses a stellium in a grand way - as in this house adds an extra boldness to the stellium planets and sign. Scorpio is already a dramatic and intense sign so perhaps this is another reason why he seems to be obsessively pursuing you, even while he's engaged to another woman (and regardless of your apparent wish to stay friends).

Do you know a lot about his dating history? I would honestly be curious if he's done this before with other exes.

Obviously other aspects should be taken into account so take all this with a grain of salt. Overall though, if you don't feel any romantic connection then I'd say go with your gut and cut him loose. Astrology can't really tell you what you "should" feel - even if you had perfect synastry with someone you could still not feel that special "click" and the relationship wouldn't be fulfilling for you. Conversely, many people share very challenging synastry and composite charts yet feel they have met someone on a soul level and make it work.

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posted January 15, 2015 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Double post - Oops!

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MineAgain
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posted January 15, 2015 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your kind responses!

I am the one with the stellium in Scorpio (Scorpio Sun, Venus, Mercury, Pluto). He is the Taurus Sun.

I have to admit that I didn't feel that "special" click the way I felt with my last fling. He's a great guy but I don't feel as though we're soul connected in any way. The synastry may be beautiful but it doesn't transpire in reality.

I also had an "amazing" synastry with my last fling and it was a disaster in real life.

Being the one with those Scorpio placements, I know it's hard to let go. However, I don't stalk my flings as much as he stalks me! I look at their profiles once in a while and that's it. I don't try to interact/add them. After a while, I move on and stop checking them once I find a new interest.

In his case, he's been doing this since late 2012 early 2013. The creepy thing is that he creates his accounts a couple of hours after I create mine. This is stalking right there.

This situation is quite draining as I want to move forward with my life. I can't ask him to stop looking at my profiles but him adding me/ ollowing me as soon as I sign up, it's too much.


The composite:

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 15, 2015 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
beautiful!

just out of curiosity, what makes a chart 'good for romance'? do the asteroids play an important part?


In this case:

major pattern completion
many aspects with romantic potential and a balance of hard/soft
good house overlays on both sides

the more problematic is the red Moon, it looks peregrine (unaspected), right, MineAagain? in your natal chart? and here she does not receive enough support. Given that this Moon is the chart ruler, this was probably the "poisonous fruit" of the synastry. The rest is quite good.


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MineAgain
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posted January 15, 2015 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm the one with the unaspected moon.

Although this synastry looks "good" or "average at best", the reality of the matter is we don't have that "special" "spark" which is an important component for me when considering a potential lover. This is probably how the Moon issue transpires in reality.

I don't understand why he is so obsessive.

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Gabby
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posted January 15, 2015 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know I've found men who have a personal planet conjunction or opposition to my BM Lilith get a little obsessed.
To men BM Lilith is a woman who epitomizes their hidden fears, their masculinity is in question...can she overtake me is a concern for them. I wonder if that is why they get so attached, we are bringing out a conquest they want and fear they have not felt before.
Just a thought....

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MineAgain
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posted January 15, 2015 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's got a fiancée. He needs to focus on her instead on focusing on someone he went on roughly 8 dates with.

I can be obsessive at times but after a while I move on ... especially after 4 years!

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posted January 15, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A marriage cannot take place if none of the rulers of the 1st House are in any major aspect to any of the rulers of the 7th House. -This is according to an article by Gilbert Navarro.

Which one are you? the Asc in Leo/Cancer?

If Leo- Does your 1st house ruler(Sun)make any major aspect with his 7th house ruler(Saturn)?

If Cancer- Does your 1st house ruler(Moon) make any major aspect with his 7th house ruler(Saturn or Uranus)?

In the composite,the ruler of the 7th(Saturn) does aspect the ruler of the Asc(Moon)by trine.

But the Moon is in Virgo and Saturn is in Capricorn and although these two do get on, the one thing I have noticed is that the connection tends to be better as a working relationship than a romantic one.

Their temperaments are too alike to have a "spark". And unless there are other aspects to add to this, these two may end up boring each other-outside the office.

The ruler of the the composite 4th(Venus) does conjunct ruler of 7th and 8th(Saturn). So it also adds to the feel of being too corporate and love for the sake of "permanence","security" and "structure"-than outright romance or tender feelings.

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MineAgain
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posted January 15, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not planning on ever getting married to this man.

I'm the Cancer rising.

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posted January 15, 2015 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not planning on ever getting married to this man.

I'm the Cancer rising.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 15, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]A marriage cannot take place if none of the rulers of the 1st House are in any major aspect to any of the rulers of the 7th House. -This is according to an article by Gilbert Navarro.[/B]

Sorry, but this rule doesn't apply stricto sensu. To give just three famous examples: Newman/Woodward, Rita Wilson/Tom Hanks, Yoko Ono/John Lennon don't have this combo, neither in the synastry, nor in the composite.

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posted January 15, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In this case:

major pattern completion
many aspects with romantic potential and a balance of hard/soft
good house overlays on both sides

the more problematic is the red Moon, it looks peregrine (unaspected), right, MineAagain? in your natal chart? and here she does not receive enough support. Given that this Moon is the chart ruler, this was probably the "poisonous fruit" of the synastry. The rest is quite good.


thanks leeloo and which asteroids do you usually consider to be important in romantic synastry? if major planets are not aspecting, do you look to the asteroids?

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posted January 15, 2015 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite just looks heavy in a bad way. Saturn conjunct venus, square Mars... You two don't sem to be all that passionate
Saturn also trine moon so this is a tempered relationship

Sun square pluto makes it unforgettable but there's no love stellium so your composite sun is just by itself in a t-square.
Pluto also sextile moon so emotion does run deep but this just seems heavily burdened. No wonder you say there's no sparks

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posted January 15, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry, but this rule doesn't apply stricto sensu. To give just three famous examples: Newman/Woodward, Rita Wilson/Tom Hanks, Yoko Ono/John Lennon don't have this combo, neither in the synastry, nor in the composite.

I mentioned it as a possibility.Haven't checked the details of it however. Just read about it and noticed that it could apply to this "lack of attraction" etc.

I will have to check the synastry of those people mentioned above. I am certain that they have strong connections that make one "recognize" the other. I think the crux of it is that...RECOGNITION.

I found it interesting to mention because attraction is very much "self-reflection" IMO.

So the lack of 7th-1st house connection in this case was a ballpark guess to cement this specific theory.

But I think that if we are to "extend" it and include other houses connecting either with the 1st/7th house axis-by ruler,aspect or otherwise.The connections can be fascinating to explore.

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posted January 15, 2015 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally, I've been the SUN-PLUTO with a PLUTO on my SUN. And, it was exact.

I'm afraid to have lunch with him unarmed, should he come through my city, travelling for business. But he jumps to my rescue anytime I have network security issues, and still sends me valentines on occasion.

That about sum it up?

And yours is in Scorpio. Yeeeeesh!

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MineAgain
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posted January 16, 2015 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Incidentally, I've been the SUN-PLUTO with a PLUTO on my SUN. And, it was exact.

I'm afraid to have lunch with him unarmed, should he come through my city, travelling for business. But he jumps to my rescue anytime I have network security issues, and still sends me valentines on occasion.

That about sum it up?

And yours is in Scorpio. Yeeeeesh!


I'm the one with the stellium in Scorpio. He doesn't have any Scorpio placements except Pluto I think.

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MineAgain
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posted January 16, 2015 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theunknown:
The composite just looks heavy in a bad way. Saturn conjunct venus, square Mars... [b]You two don't sem to be all that passionate
Saturn also trine moon so this is a tempered relationship

Sun square pluto makes it unforgettable but there's no love stellium so your composite sun is just by itself in a t-square.
Pluto also sextile moon so emotion does run deep but this just seems heavily burdened. No wonder you say there's no sparks[/B]


Thank you! Yes, there was no passion at all. It was boring to be quite frank. That's why I said it felt more like a "friendship". I can't picture myself being intimate with him or even kissing him. For some reason, he repulses me .. no joke. I've never had this "repulsion" with anyone but him.

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posted January 16, 2015 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MineAgain:
I'm the one with the stellium in Scorpio. He doesn't have any Scorpio placements except Pluto I think.

Right. It's his PLUTO on your SUN-PLUTO. In Scorpio. That's ... what I said.

In my experience, PLUTO can be extremely possessive of, and obsessive over, SUN-PLUTO. In my experience, that is.

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