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Geeky
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posted January 15, 2015 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the last 15 years, this has happened to me 7 times (that I know of) and it's quite possible it has happened with a few more people that I don't have birth data for.

These people are all different ages (from 36 to 49) and because I have traveled so much, from all over the country. How the heck does this keep happening?!

I want Neptune to LEAVE ME ALONE!

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posted January 15, 2015 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see it as often as venus-mars or saturn aspect, but yeah I do see them once in a while...

I got lots of neptune in my own relationship, but I haven't experienced the bad side yet:P

But because you experienced this so much, I believe it must be something in your own chart... do you have many neptune aspects yourself, 5th house in pisces, neptune in 5th/7th or something like this? Maybe a lot of 12th house influence?

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posted January 15, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NTN, In my natal, I have:

Neptune in Sag in H4
Moon conjunct Neptune
Sun square Neptune
Saturn square Neptune
Neptune trine Asc
Neptune sextile Pluto (but a lot of people have that)

Scorpio is on the cusp of H4, so I think that makes my H4 ruler to be Venus.

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posted January 15, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
5th house in pisces, neptune in 5th/7th or something like this? Maybe a lot of 12th house influence?

No to Pisces in 5H
No to Neptune in 5th/7th
The only 12H influence I have is Jupiter there. But my Mars & Venus both square Jupiter.

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posted January 15, 2015 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One last thing.

I am currently in the middle of a Neptune transit to my 7th, which is seriously making me tired. I have three more years of it and I am just over it.

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Faith
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posted January 15, 2015 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hope it doesn't last three years. :/

I have Venus conjunct Neptune...it's always sucked. Frankly.

So, my sympathies

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Aubyanne
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posted January 15, 2015 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep pulling in men with whom the composite brings CHIRON on our DSC in some fashion. Usually involving VERTEX, too.

As Lee said, 'you HAVE noticed this, right?' Heh.

It's no coincidence you're having a lot of hard NEPTUNE synastry. Think of the meat of it. What does NEP represent? What happens when we've got squares, oppositions -- even semisquares?

Seems like these relationships / dynamics / relational patterns are here to help you learn something about honesty, truth, perception, deception, illusion, idealism, fantasy, and romanticism.

That's a lot!

So, typically, we break down the core elements. Truth and honesty versus deception and lies. Illusion compared to idealism. Are we relating more on a level of fantasy or reality? How much is rose-tinted versus through-the-magnifying glass?

We all have to do the 'reality check' from time to time. Hard NEP synastries are always reminding us to pay attention to how the actuality might be matching up -- or mismatched -- to the perception.

Conversely, sorting through your 'Neptune issues' can lead to a kind of beautiful, fantastical experience -- the likes of which isn't likely on earth.

My husband and I were talking about how it's typical for couples to fantasise about someone else -- usually famous -- while 'engaged' with their partner. WHILE. He says this is, after all, 'common'. I said it's tragic!

I've been consciously striving, in both of my relationships, to relate honestly and presently during my intimate experiences. Oh, it's hardly all that wonderful, having to face the less glamourous and unsexy reality of relating one-on-one -- and being poor at doing so.

Instead, as I told my husband, I'm determined to elevate sexuality; to experience a total merging on all levels. Here. In the present. Not to escape into some fantasy. It seems dishonest to me -- doesn't it to you? Shouldn't we be WITH our partner -- 100% -- when we're WITH them?

That's a bit of what my hard NEP (and soft, too) synastry has been teaching me. I don't HAVE to be 'satisfied' with the escapism that 'common' lovemaking tends to have as an inherent feature in the modern world. I can strive for BETTER. By making the REALITY its own shared fantasy, built by two, consciously.

My husband also said, 'I decided, when I married you, I'd never have to lie again.' We both respect each other immensely for being what most couples consider to be 'too honest'. We've had to work through a LOT. But when your spouse says to you, 'they tell you to marry your best friend -- and I have,' there's a rare satisfaction in that truth.

And it couldn't have been achieved by anything BUT truth, in our case.

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Geeky
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posted January 16, 2015 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting perspective and approach Auby.

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