posted January 18, 2015 07:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
From a distance? Is this a long distance relationship?

Yes this is a long distance relationship.

Incidentally, I'm curious how you'd interpret the NESSUS conjunct NNODE between you.

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Hmm..Nessus. I'm not quite familiar with this yet.But from a few things I have understood,it could be part of the obsession and strong sexuality between us.. that suddenly explodes into anger,for no apparent reason?!

To be honest, this is the first time a person has ever made me,well i don't quite know how to describe it,but, lose control of my temper & myself so fast, making me feel like i'm a monster.and very ashamed of it

posted January 18, 2015 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by peony:
On again, off again relationships that I've seen are related to Uranus, particularly Venus-Uranus. There's Sun/Uranus, Jupiter/Uranus, and Venus-Uranus contacts in the synastry. But you both also have a fair amount of Uranus aspects in your natal charts, indicating freedom needs are paramount to both of you. The inside person has a natal Uranus in the 5H square Venus in Aquarius which is echoed by the red person's Venus square blue person's Uranus. The outside person has a Moon-Uranus conjunction in Sagittarius which falls in the blue person's 5H. A Mars-Uranus conjunction in the 5H though exciting sexually can be volatile and produce tension. This all adds up to excitement, unpredictability, and instability, and possibly emotional ambivalence as well.

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Yes, freedom is very important to both of us.Privacy also.And it's quite obvious.In our own unique way i suppose

Btw,I am the inside blue person.

Thanks for the help peony!

Was wondering if all this 5th house uranus energy could be the reason for waking inspiration for art,romance or even having a child?
Also,could Venus tr Saturn and Pluto give hope of stabilizing a little this uranus energy? in order to continue fighting for this,in any level relationship.

Sorry for so many questions, I am just trying to figure out,from another perspective,besides the heart, if it's worth the battle. or could the "lessons" be over?
I have personally learnt a few things about myself thru this relationship.I do believe her also.

Am also curious of Karma conjuct Chiron,
Vertex conjuct Karma

posted January 18, 2015 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Yes, freedom is very important to both of us.Privacy also.And it's quite obvious.In our own unique way i suppose

Btw,I am the inside blue person.

Thanks for the help peony!

Was wondering if all this 5th house uranus energy could be the reason for waking inspiration for art,romance or even having a child?

Also,could Venus tr Saturn and Pluto give hope of stabilizing a little this uranus energy? in order to continue fighting for this,in any level relationship.

Sorry for so many questions, I am just trying to figure out,from another perspective,besides the heart, if it's worth the battle. or could the "lessons" be over?
I have personally learnt a few things about myself thru this relationship.I do believe her also.

Am also curious of Karma conjuct Chiron,
Vertex conjuct Karma

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313n, I'll answer any questions you have as long as I know the answers! I would suggest you post the composite chart. It'll give you more insight into the relationship.

Your Jupiter trine her Moon-Uranus in the 5H, and the predominant Uranus in the synastry is a creative and inspiring contact between two people. It's my opinion that Uranus is at its best when there are mutual interests that are larger than the relationship. I don't know of a better combination for a creative collaboration. Jupiter/Moon-Uranus is a very uplifting, joyous, creative, and inspiring contact. To get the feeling of these archetypal energies, you can hear it in the 4th movement or "Ode to Joy" of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony or Mozart's Jupiter Symphony.

I think the Venus/Saturn-Pluto trine does provide a stabilizing energy and it looks like you also have a Sun-Saturn conjunction. Again, I suggest you post the composite to reveal more.

As for the asteroid conjunctions, others on this forum can better address those questions.

posted January 18, 2015 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Hmm..Nessus. I'm not quite familiar with this yet.But from a few things I have understood,it could be part of the obsession and strong sexuality between us.. that suddenly explodes into anger,for no apparent reason?!

To be honest, this is the first time a person has ever made me,well i don't quite know how to describe it,but, lose control of my temper & myself so fast, making me feel like i'm a monster.and very ashamed of it

In general,i'm considered to be a quite calm,patient and even passive person.
From what a few friends of hers,my intuition,and a few of her moves tell me,She is more of the energetic,impatient,aggressive type. But never is like this around me.
I just can't quite understand why this is suddenly the other way around when we are together

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Her Mars is on your Uranus which can be explosive as you've experienced. I wouldn't take all the responsibility though. Her Venus is also quincunx your Mars and she has a natal Venus-Mars square (both in fire and water signs). The preponderance of fire and water in the synastry, cranks up the passion and energy between you. The comparative weakness of the air element suggests problems with communication and/or objectivity. So, these are areas where friends or impartial third parties could be very useful.

You both have Sag Moons, which is very comfortable and makes for an easy rapport between you. But her Uranus on the Moon is more dynamic, brings in an element of unpredictability and perhaps sudden changes or unpredictability of feelings. Your Moon conjunct Neptune is more passive, but also highly imaginative and dreamy. Looks to me like you could be or are very creative together.

Moon-Uranus in a woman's chart is not only an indicator of independence and freedom needs, but there can be a mind-body split or a tendency to split off feelings and go into one's head, particularly in Sagittarius. Moon-Uranus can be very ambivalent emotionally and staying grounded is a challenge.

posted January 18, 2015 05:53 PM            

Surprisingly, my interest & appreciation for classical music re appeared strongly after meeting this lady. and I understand exactly what u mean by the feeling of these energies!

Comunication between us is easier felt than said,yes.
Don't know about deceit & lies though.
We both live in a creative dreamworld when together, but when reality breaks through.. oh dear

This is the composite.
Not sure if ref.place is important.?

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posted January 18, 2015 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Hi peony,
Yes I understand that u can not answer all my questions. Was my impulsive mistake asking them all in one reply,as they were also meant for anyone in general who may have an answer.
And I very much thank u for your time and interest in this

Surprisingly, my interest & appreciation for classical music re appeared strongly after meeting this lady. and I understand exactly what u mean by the feeling of these energies!

Funny thing with the unpredictability part is that I had come to believe that I only was the problem to all this instability & outbursts. But as time goes by, also looking at her chart,I finally realised that I was taking the blame for not knowing what I want in this relationship. Can't say it's a lie, but I've never really felt like she wants me knowing.
I am also female, and do believe it makes it a little easier to get a better understanding of what may be going on in her mind & heart,even if she does not admit or show.

Comunication between us is easier felt than said,yes.
Don't know about deceit & lies though.
We both live in a creative dreamworld when together, but when reality breaks through.. oh dear

This is the composite.
Not sure if ref.place is important.?

[IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag53/mynamelen/4455d231-06 3f-4a4f-bb10-159cc66cc64d_zps9bbaec3d.gif[/IMG]

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313n, you are making no mistakes at all.

The Moon-Uranus theme repeats in the composite and there's a Mercury-Saturn square indicating that perhaps clear communication is something to work on. The emotional and even violent intensity is indicated by the Mars-Pluto square.

You also have a GRAND TRINE in the composite between Venus/Chiron, Jupiter, and Mars/Ceres, involving the romance planets. According to Magi, the GT is "the strongest and most favorable three-planet configuration-tremendous harmony and synergy."

The Grand Trine is an example of "planetary geometry." Here's Magi again:

"Combined Planetary Geometry creates attraction and/or ties between the two persons that form the Planetary Geometry.  Two persons will not have any serious association with each other unless they form strong Planetary Geometry. The more powerful the Planetary Geometry, the more serious the relationship that develops, and the longer it will last."

posted January 18, 2015 06:46 PM            

First of all, Saturn in Libra can be fearful of relationships and with Pluto conjunct and in the 12H, suggests an extreme fear that is unconscious. If there's nothing to account for this in the present life, it may have to do with past life trauma. Saturn-Pluto in the 12H are powerful energies that are most likely operating outside of her awareness. What may be happening is that every time the two of you approach a certain threshold, deep unconscious defenses get mobilized. Because this trio of heavyweights are in your 4H, she could be a mirror of unconscious fears and defenses in you as well. This may be why you haven't been able to move forward or establish your relationship on more solid ground?

posted January 18, 2015 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Interesting. very interesting.
Now I see why this connection is so difficult to break.

Although I am not too familiar with Magi,yet, I can see what it means by tremendous harmony and synergy coming from a GT with this person.
Too bad it doesn't like to stay stable for too long to fully understand and appreciate it.

Any idea where I could find some serious info on Magi? mainly regarding GT's

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I left another reply just above that may be useful regarding the instability.

To answer this question, here's a link on planetary geometry:
http://magihelena.com/magi_lesson_geometry.htm

You can also visit the Magi website: magiastrology.com

posted January 18, 2015 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
One thing I forgot to mention. She has a Saturn-Pluto conjunction in her 12H, which is on your Pluto in your 4H.

First of all, Saturn in Libra can be fearful of relationships and with Pluto conjunct and in the 12H, suggests an extreme fear that is unconscious. If there's nothing to account for this in the present life, it may have to do with past life trauma. Saturn-Pluto in the 12H are powerful energies that are most likely operating outside of her awareness. What may be happening is that every time the two of you approach a certain threshold, deep unconscious defenses get mobilized. Because this trio of heavyweights are in your 4H, she could be a mirror of unconscious fears and defenses in you as well. This may be why you haven't been able to move forward or establish your relationship on more solid ground?

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Yes,this is one thing i have noticed, and felt actually. The strong 12th unconscious energy.and mostly,her fear of me for some peculiar reason.
It seems like i am unconsciouscly most times,trying to provoke those fears, trying to get them out of there. It does not come out in a very good manner though sometimes :/

posted January 18, 2015 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
It really is fascinating when you start to realise that with a little study and helpful insight by others, some pieces start to fit together. also reassuring your intuition

I will sure look into magi a little further. I appreciate all your help. & thank u for the link

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You're very welcome.