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FmVenusWLove
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posted January 29, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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starmoon
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posted January 29, 2015 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's the angles that are really drawing you together. assuming you have his TOB correct it's the alignment of the AC/IC and DC/MC in synastry. angles are receptive points in the chart that we associate with transformation and growth - usually personal growth and changes in ourselves that the other person is able to bring out. it can last for a short period of time (until we learn what we need to and move on) or can be a lifelong connection. i see some weak points in the synastry - uranus close to the ASC, saturn opp. venus and mars, but overall the synastry and composite are good. it kinda looks like a working/business connection.

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posted January 30, 2015 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 31, 2015 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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peony
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posted February 01, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi - please indicate who's inside and who's outside and whether you have the exact TOB for both.

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FmVenusWLove
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posted February 01, 2015 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2015 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I have a hard time reading the chart with all the aspect lines, but here's what I see. Your Moon conjunct his ASC indicates a close emotional tie and bond between you. His Moon on the cusp of your 5H conjunct Jupiter is one of those aspects in synastry that enhances a sense of well being around each other and would enhance you're getting along well together. You have a Moon square Neptune DW, your Neptune conjuncts his Sun, and there's a Mars-Neptune also. So there may be either idealization going on, and at times a misreading of each other and misunderstandings. Sometimes with these contacts, there can be a yearning to save or be saved, to rescue or be rescued. There can also be great empathy. With Sun-Neptune, you may idealize him, defer to him or even be self-effacing towards him. But the Neptune contacts can also heighten your sensitivity to each other's moods and feelings. The down side of Neptune of course is deception, self-deception or illusions about each other or the relationship. I'm not saying that's happening or going to happen, but with Neptune, there's that possibility. Neptune can also be about sacrifice.

Your Jupiter looks like it's at the MP between the Moon-Venus synastry contact in your 5H which is great for romance. Temperamentally you're very similar. You both have Sun-Mercury in earth signs and you have a Virgo Moon conjunct his ASC. You're a Venus in Aries and Moon in Virgo. He has Venus in Aquarius, but Moon in Aries. So it looks like you both run hot and cold, romantically and emotionally. You have a similar dichotomy between one side that is a realist, rational, and cautious, while another side is hot tempered, impulsive, and passionate. He's a pistol with that Moon-Mars opposition with a hair trigger, controlling, impulsive, with strong appetites and passions. Also, he can attract controlling women. You have a Moon square Mars, which is similar. I think both of you having the hard aspect can make it easier for you to handle each other.

Natally, you have a Moon-Saturn/Uranus-Mars mutable t-square. You've probably been confronted with tough/harsh circumstances and life experiences that make it difficult for you trust others. There is enormous mental and physical tension associated with these planets in major aspect. They can sometimes bring close encounters with violence or madness. His Neptune sits on one end of the t-square conjunct your Uranus-Saturn, opposing your Mars, and square your Moon. I can't tell whether his Sun square Mars is in orb, but if it is, he's used to conflict and struggle in his life as well. He's probably also seen things that most of us can't even imagine. So, he can help to soften those hard edges in your personality. But on the other hand, because it's his Neptune, he's also very vulnerable to you and may be overwhelmed. Mars-Saturn-Uranus in my opinion is probably the toughest and harshest combination in astrology, other than Saturn-Pluto. And guess what, he has that too! His Saturn-Pluto opposes your Venus, and here lies what looks to be what's problematic in this synastry. The gaiety, lightness and pleasure associated with Venus, especially in the 5H, has his Saturn-Pluto opposing it. On the positive side, it brings in a quality of gravitas or seriousness to the relationship. But with your Venus and Jupiter in the 5H which wants romance, wants to enjoy and have a good time, his Saturn-Pluto is going to throw a wrench into it at some point. With the conjunction in Libra, he's probably very fearful of intimate relationships. So, his partner is likely to see all his defense mechanisms mobilized, which can manifest as distancing or a need for space, or periods when he's cool or not engaged, or being critical of you. Your Saturn squares his Moon, so there may a tendency at times to be critical and judgmental on both sides.

His Jupiter on the cusp of your 12H conjunct your Pluto in Scorpio I think may mean he's protective of you on a deep level. He may have insight into parts of you that you may not be aware of, or he may have a healing influence on you. Other than his Jupiter and your Pluto in Scorpio in your 12H, the water element is almost missing in this synastry. It may be difficult to be vulnerable and to express your feelings and emotions to each other, except when you're angry, but the anger may mask the vulnerability underneath. It may help to keep that in mind. Also, things I've said about what looks to be the dynamic between you may not come into play unless and until you're together, or if you're only seeing each other for brief periods of time.

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FmVenusWLove
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posted February 03, 2015 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 05, 2015 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
I was just curious if you mean he might feel overwhelmed by my Moon-Saturn/Uranus-Mars craziness (Yikes! lol) or if he's overwhelmed by the vulnerability this brings out in him?

What I was thinking at the time of writing is that Neptune is permeable, it doesn't have boundaries, so with your Saturn-Uranus on his Neptune, he may pick up on and absorb the tensions and the stress from your t-square. His Neptune is on his IC, so his vulnerability may be well hidden, along with a soft, dreamy side of him that only those close to him see. You're similar with Pisces on your IC. His Sun and Neptune are in his 4H, so I think his home is his castle. Your Neptune is conjunct his Sun, so together I imagine you two could create a sanctuary or a haven. But at times, your Saturn-Uranus on his 4H Neptune may be grating and uncomfortable for him.

You have a Mars-Neptune hard aspect both ways. There may be a tendency to be indirect, evasive, or even deceptive with each other on some level. Or, one of you may act in a way that triggers evasive maneuvers in the other. This may be something to watch out for. Mars-Neptune also heightens fantasy and action inspired by vision and imagination.


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FmVenusWLove
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posted February 18, 2015 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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