posted February 10, 2015 08:39 PM            

Just looked up our composite for the first time (creepily, I took your birth info off a chart you posted here the other day):

* Sun at 5 Cap, conjunct your Venus
* Mercury at 15 Cap, conjunct your cVenus with You-Know-Who, and conjunct my sun
* ASC-Pluto conjunction, 8 Libra
* DSC-Vertex exact, if my birth time's correct
* Pallas-Moon conjunction at 1-2 Pisces (on his SN?), 2 Virgo Kaali, 3 Scorpio Uranus
* 8H Urania

Thought it was interesting and didn't want to derail any other threads.

posted February 11, 2015 11:56 AM            

Buuuuut with tr Jupiter exactly on my pr moon in Leo today, in my natal first house, how can I resist?

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posted February 11, 2015 01:55 PM            

For example your ASC falls onto my Draco Chiron. Your Psyche on my Draco Moon. and so much more. lol

And yes, KAALI, VERY electric, along with Uranus/Aquarius of course. But Kaali is the epitome of vortex to me, actually i once was having a weird scene in a semi-trance I sometimes fall into on the bus.

Actually 2 of these experiences. one being a dream

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In that dream I was meeting Sati, Pavati and Kaali actually.
Sati and Parvati were dressed in beautiful gowns, very luxurious, looking like noble Indian women, radiating and glowing; Satis gown was a blueish-green, Parvati`s was blue like the sky.
However while these two stepped towards me gracefully (on a sandy path, with the Sun burning down mercilessly, in some distance of a temple, which I hadn`t dared to enter, as I am no hindu, and wanted to be respectful, and just looking at it from the distance on that desertlike sandy path at Noon, and that was when they stepped out of the temple coming over to me.

Kaali however appeared with a gush of wind, well fire-wind. She was pretty much naked, or halfnaked, with wild fiery red-brown hair, twigs and leaves sticking in her hair, and her skin being layered with whereever she was before, dirt/ sand/ dust/ twigs/leaves/ even a few drops of blood.
She was untamed, uncivilized, unleashed, very concentrated power and energy, and I certainly did not dare look at her, until she pretty much forced me to look at her face. In my dream at least she didnīt like a devoted, socially conditioned, attitude in the least.

Anyway so they were standing in front of me and saying:
"I am Sati. I am forgiveness."
"I am Parvati. I am compassion."
"I am Kaali. I am what has always been, is and will always be. I am the fire of truth."

And that was the dream. lol

A few months after that I was having an image rising up during an email conversation.
Of course it is puzzling and not easy to understand. lol

I feel it was significant but am not exactly sure how to interprete it. That was it: The friend was asking me in a mail what Kaali / Siva means, and upon reading this I felt something shift inside me, like her question was actually not directed to my personal Self but to my Higher Self.
And I was immeditately getting an answer "Siva contains Kaali", but I didn`t really understand what that means, and when I signalled my confusion, I was getting an image as well as some words.

This was it:

The first image was a vase with something inside; the vase being Siva, the something
inside being Kaali.
But then the image was instantly replaced by some other.
A man (Siva) embracing / enveloping completely a woman (Kaali).

I asked about the meaning of the image, and what I received was: "Kaali is energy, emotional energy, the motor, but needs to be channelled / directed or it will swirl into all directions, like a sandstorm/hurricaine. Siva is giving her direction, anchoring her,c ontaining her.
Kaali is emotion, Siva is understanding.Kaali is impetus, Siva is direction. Kaali is the idea, Siva is the manifestation of her."

And later on the friend was asking me if Siva was like a portal, and I was receiving this:
"Still the image in mind, the man looked up at me and said: "Noone comes to the
mother but through me."
I was aksing: What is the mother?
And the word I Received was: "time." (And I was seeing something like a spiral of air/ wind, but couldn`t see where it ended)
And me: But where does it lead?
answer: It doesn`t lead. It just is. Everywhere."

So I guess, if that is true, then Siva is a portal. But the image fascinated me
of matter (Siva) anchoring / containing / enveloping Spirit (Kaali). The
manifestation of emotional and spiritual energy."


I guess there must at least be some meaning for me personally in it, though it may not be a generalized truth, but it is slippery.

posted February 11, 2015 02:07 PM            

very strong activation, and in Aquarius, too!

With Neptune also very spiritual of course, and hitting you in the core.

Funny, but Mr Sag`s Kaali is on 6 Sagittarius.

Well, when we first met,

pr composite KAALI 14°10 Pisces
pr composite ASC 13°58 Pisces

his pr PARVATI 13°21 Pisces
my n SIVA 14°57 Scorpio

Tr SIVA 12°36 Pisces
Tr PARVATI 14°01 Pisces
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Tr KAALI 19°20 Gemini
Tr Mercury 20°58 Gemini
Tr MAHAKALA 21°32 Gemini

(Mahakala is one name of Siva, Kaali`s consort)

- well no wonder our chat was so bizarrely loaded with electric energy. lol

leading back into our personal charts

his pr KAALI 20°17 Sagittarius

my MAHAKALA 23°15 Gemini
(my pr MAHAKALA On 17 Gemini on my Karma btw)

c-SIVA 21°26 Sagittarius

additionally with an opposition of EROS on 12 Gemini and true BML on 12 Sagittarius along the DESC and ASC in the first meeting chart.

Definitely Kundalini-rising-worthy.

posted February 11, 2015 02:12 PM            

My natal moon
18 Pisces..."

MINDBLOWING.

It also means that Uranus and Pluto were on the Sun/Mars-mp

posted February 11, 2015 02:15 PM            

"Sun at 5 Cap, conjunct your Venus"
Yeah I very much like our convos.

"
* Mercury at 15 Cap, conjunct your cVenus with You-Know-Who, and conjunct my sun"
Interesting. You know whos solar arc Mercury is at 15 Cap at the moment, too.

"* ASC-Pluto conjunction, 8 Libra"
That is really intense! With Pluto coming from the 2nd house, a lot of emphasis on values. Sounds right, right?

"* DSC-Vertex exact, if my birth time's correct"
I suppose we are meant to get married.
No seriously at least meant to know each other and connect. Funny, but Mr Sags Draco Mars-Jupiter-Amor falls onto 9-10 Aries.

posted February 11, 2015 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

* Pallas-Moon conjunction at 1-2 Pisces (on his SN?), 2 Virgo Kaali, 3 Scorpio Uranus

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this one is pretty crazy, too!

Yes his SN is 1 PIsces, his Priapus is there as well. Plus he is still under the influence of two major solar arc pictures.

sa Neptune conjunct n Venus
sa Venus conjunct n SN

(those were both exact in october 2014.

So either he met his soulmate or he got COMPLETELY deluded in romantic terms. Or a bit of both.

Interesting though how Tr Saturn is square his nodal axis (it was conjunct his NN when we first met), and thus squares sa Venus, too.
I just today read that this is called a "shadow transit", and you can trace the connection back to what happened when Tr Saturn was aspecting the natal planet.

Well Tr Saturn was squaring his n Venus from december 2011 until august 2012.

Well this was EXACTLY the timeframe, his longterm relationship with the Aqua-girl broke apart!
I just look at this for the first time today, and it is whoa, creepy!

in september 2011 he was approaching me during his concert, and it was so bizarrely intense. His girlfriend actually was on the concert as well, as was his mother, and well I had the impression things weren`t too well between him and her (his gf).

in december 2011 she did not appear on a concert as she was supposed to and they clearly had huge difficulties, nevertheless I had to fight my own demons, and decided to disappear, which I did, and only reappeared in august 2012!
The exact timeframe of the Tr Saturn-Venus square.

Of course more important to him probably was the fact that during this time they must have broken up, cause they were clearly separated in august that year.

Oh and in the middle of that timeframe shortly after the second hit of Tr Saturn to his natal Venus, he published a certain song "Fall in love", remember?

Now if THIS is a shadow transit now, the hits of Tr Saturn square to sa Venus are these:

1st. hit
8th. january 2015.

This.is.NOT.possible.
Within 24 hours of the last concert!

2nd hit
18th may 2015

3rd hit
16th october 2015

Well I will keep you informed.

EDIT
as Frank Clifford writes
" Well, I discovered that not only is the transit to the directed position (what I call a Shadow Transit) as important as the original transit-to-natal event, it also has a strong link to the themes that came up and developed under the original natal chart transit."
http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques.shtml

posted February 11, 2015 02:58 PM            

But that one is leading far too far back into the past

as Tr Uranus was square my n ASC
into march, october, december 2005

posted February 11, 2015 04:30 PM            

*I gotta remember to tell you something funny about Noel Tyl, next time I'm on email.

*"Directed position"...code word for "solar arc position"?....oh I see. You can use solar-arc directed positions, Venus-arc directed positions...got it.

*Ok, I've got a tentative grasp on the idea and can follow your story.

quote:

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This.is.NOT.possible.
Within 24 hours of the last concert!

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I think, That is not possible!! about half the things you tell me about you two. But what do you think, is that why things seemed a bit mellow then?

quote:

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So either he met his soulmate or he got COMPLETELY deluded in romantic terms. Or a bit of both.

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Seems like both.

quote:

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Oh and in the middle of that timeframe shortly after the second hit of Tr Saturn to his natal Venus, he published a certain song "Fall in love", remember?

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So...he saw you before tr Saturn square Venus. It was intense. He doesn't see you during that Saturn transit to Venus, but he writes Fall in Love AND breaks up with his girlfriend. Makes you wonder!

Do you think there was any ill effect of even meeting with him during that shadow transit? Seems almost like, cursed energy!

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* Mercury at 15 Cap, conjunct your cVenus with You-Know-Who, and conjunct my sun"
Interesting. You know whos solar arc Mercury is at 15 Cap at the moment, too.

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This is hilarious. Our cMercury exactly conjunct your cVenus with him, and half the time we are talking about him. Makes TOO much sense. But what's his saMercury doing there? You think he's listening, on some level? =)

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Thanks soooo much for the Kaali revelation stories, I am enthralled to pieces.

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"Kaali is energy, emotional energy, the motor, but needs to be channelled / directed or it will swirl into all directions, like a sandstorm/hurricaine. Siva is giving her direction, anchoring her,c ontaining her.
Kaali is emotion, Siva is understanding.Kaali is impetus, Siva is direction. Kaali is the idea, Siva is the manifestation of her."

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I love this. And it has a very literal meaning for me, considering this experience...

You remember, I told you a friend of mine was travelling to my area, their Kaali on my moon, my Mahakala on their moon exact, and there was a tremendous, out-of-season storm at the very moment tr moon-Kaali was on our moon-Kaali conjunction? (I just double checked to make sure I remembered the story accurately...yes, it's all true.) I take this stuff seriously because it gives me no choice. LOL

quote:

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"I am Kaali. I am what has always been, is and will always be. I am the fire of truth."

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Yeah I guess that's why Kaali is just an asteroid and not a planet. Let's just...keep her small.

Well it's almost more exciting that way. I'm glad hurricanes are not the norm. That would be so....dizzy.

quote:

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Well, when we first met,
pr composite KAALI 14°10 Pisces
pr composite ASC 13°58 Pisces

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Oh...of course!! Not at all surprised.

quote:

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Definitely Kundalini-rising-worthy.

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Yes. Along with everything else that was going on! And that's another thing I'm really fascinated by...human interaction causing kundalini rising! Such a mystery to me at this point, but I know there's something to it.

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MINDBLOWING.

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Thank you for seeing it.

When it happened, my knees kinda buckled (literally it was like getting a huge electric shock) and I really wanted to say, "DID YOU FEEL THAT?????"

But...social propriety trumps all. And I am a...yawn....Capricorn sun. So after stumbling just a bit and shaking my head, I was reasonably okay and acted like nothing happened. But he gave me a look...which makes me think, he was aware of it.

quote:

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and your Moon was struck by that. like acting as a burning glass through or onto which all of that energy was focused and released, or actually erupted.

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Exactly...I think that's what it was. And well...there was so much tension at that time, he wasn't sure if he would even live, and my father was dying, so everything WAS focused, very serious, very apt for my moon position (in the 8H.)

quote:

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Funny, but Mr Sag`s Kaali is on 6 Sagittarius.

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On your Mars! In SAG! omg omg

quote:

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"* DSC-Vertex exact, if my birth time's correct"
I suppose we are meant to get married.
No seriously at least meant to know each other and connect.

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And look! We did! *happy dance*

Is my Vertex on your sun? I always get 26s and 28s mixed up...

quote:

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Well I will keep you informed.

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posted February 11, 2015 04:57 PM            

quote:

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BTW my own natal KAALI is on 12 Gemini.

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On your SN?

And that opposes my 12 Sag Neptune.

posted February 11, 2015 06:00 PM            

So I have to tell you (have to tell somebody!) With my best friend, who I've known since I was 6:

My Jupiter 16 Aries
Her draco Uranus 16 Aries

My dr moon 28 Cancer
Her dr moon 24 Cancer

My Saturn 0 Leo
Her dr Mars 2 Leo, dr Kaali 3 Leo***

My sun 15 Cap
Her dr Saturn 15 Cap

My moon 18 Pisces
Her draco Pluto 18 Pisces

My Mars 16 Gemini
Her dr Karma 15 Gemini, my dr Mercury 15 Gemini

My SN 20 Taurus
Her dr Neptune 21 Taurus

posted February 12, 2015 10:30 AM            

"*"Directed position"...code word for "solar arc position"?"
Yes, it is the same, solar arc directions

"I think, That is not possible!! about half the things you tell me about you two."
LOL

" But what do you think, is that why things seemed a bit mellow then?"
Might be.
Seems he was having one of the best and one of the toughest times at the same time astrologically.

Like he was having pr Venus exactly opposping Jupiter that night, but also having Tr Saturn square his nodal axis exact (along with his directed Venus).

and speaking of solar arc directions, his tightest midpoint pictures (within 5 minutes applying and separating) were:

sa ASC was not triggering any midpoint picture THAT tight in his natal chart, however it is difficult to NOT take note that his sa DESC was on 1°21 Scorpio, exact conjunct my n Uranus on 1°21 Scorpio.
And ONCE again it seems I was made (from the cosmos) to play the role of Uranus. lol

Well, Uranus in my own chart is configured with an important, but not necessarily easy midpoint picture as it is opposing my Moon/Saturn-mp, but by 40 minutes, still valid of course, but not extremely close.

Nevertheless, funny but yes I guess it makes sense that he became the agent for sort of triggering Uranus=Moon/Saturn for me.

"URANUS TO MIDPOINT MOON/SATURN
Reaching out for emotional freedom, exploding out of frustration or
inhibitions. Nervous tension, sudden mental and emotional suffering, separation."

It has of course some nicer possibilities as well, but with Saturn AND Uranus in the same picture, there is of course a great tension between the "shall I stay or should I go?" theme, Uranus is literally representing the shock, the jolt to my personal need for emotional security (Moon/Saturn). The result could either be the blowing up (Uranus) again, of emotional barriers (Moon/Saturn) or an extreme experience of emotional tension, nervousness etc.

which was more about me though than about him. lol

his sa MC=Sun/Mars -00
it`s interesting that this was totally exact.

his sa MC= Moon/mercury -01
also very exact that day. Well Sun/Mars-mp relates to the man per se, masculinity, feeling active and energized, and Moon/mercury can literally mean communication with a woman. lol

Or as the authorities write

M.C. TO MIDPOINT MOON/MERCURY
Making decisions, usually about one's profession or social position.
Forming a spiritual relationship to a girl.

M.C. TO MIDPOINT SUN/MARS
The tendency to do one's work for the love of it, to accept responsibility gladly. The demonstration of a masculine character, the character of a fighter, the attainment of success in life.

saMoon= Moon/Jupiter -02
Feeling happy, being successful, contentment.

saMercury=Sun/Uranus -05
Presence of mind, quick and prudent acting, sudden flashes of
cognition, seeing things too analytically for comfort. A young reformer;
making arrangements.

saMars=Jupiter/Uranus -02
Drive and determination towards success; a love of individual freedom;
speculation; changing fortunes. Engagement.

saSaturn=Mercury/ASC -02
SATURN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
Adopting a strategic reserve in expression; withdrawing from a social
circle; protecting one's position; separation.

- this one is interesting also, because in his chart Mercury rules the 7th house (and the fourth house) and Saturn conjuncts the DESC very tightly.

well his sa Saturn has just been separating from the conjunction to my natal Uranus, a conjunction that was exact about a year ago.
Since Saturn is exact on his DESC and exact square his Sun, this whole complex fell onto my n Uranus. Well, his sa Saturn and sa Sun were the first.
So over the last year we had his sa Saturn= his sa Sun = my n Uranus

and now his sa DESC had joined that compelex, being exact on my natal Uranus.

In a way it is also funnas it means that his directed Sun/Saturn-mp is connected to my natal Moon/Saturn-mp (in fact the orb is just half a degree between them, and while this would not mean anything on its own, they are "bound together" through my nUranus (at least last year. lol) and are now tied through his sa Sun, sa Saturn and sa ASC.

sa Pluto=Venus/MC -01
Tremendous focus on an artistic career; cultural exposure, publicity.
An unusual power of attraction. A strange providence in love
relationship. Fated compulsive attraction.

MC= saPluto/ASC
M.C. TO MIDPOINT PLUTO/ASC
Power and authority and success attained.

Moon= sa Saturn/Pluto -07
(actually "hitting" the weeks before)

MOON TO MIDPOINT SATURN/PLUTO
Emotional coldness, melancholy, renunciation. The tragic destiny of or because of a woman.

Saturn = sa Neptune / Pluto -03
Grief, weakness, torment

Pluto = sa Mars/Neptune -07
(also hitting him BEFORE that occasion, possibly somewhen in december, maybe even leading back into late november)

Apparently irresponsible attitude; selfish pursuit of one's
objectives; devil-may-care attitude; the tendency to cause damage to others
brutally or to suffer likewise. Dissolution, death.

Nice, hu?

NN = sa Mars/Jupiter -01
Good cooperation with others. A happy union, an engagement.

his were just a little weird, pretty much covering the extremes of isolation/separation to compelling attraction/relationship/engagement (and of course birth. lol).

but still maybe his perception was different than mine, who knows?

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for me it was more like this

sa Sun = Venus/ASC -10 s
(actually this one would have been "due" in november, which as you might remember was mentioned in his listing too, and coincided with the phase of almost-communication. lol)

A harmonious disposition coupled with a beautiful physique,
gracefulness, a sense of art. Showing oneself at one's best in terms of
appearance.

(it struck at the same time as HE was having this suffering, torment, dissolution, being irresponsible and selfish picture )

sa Mercury= ASC/MC -09 a
(about now. lol)

thinking about one`s place in the world.

Moon= sa Jupiter/Uranus -01
A good intuition, an optimistic outlook, a fortunate grasp and
understanding of things, prudence. A sudden feeling of happiness,
looking ahead to success.

lol not really, right?

Saturn = sa Mars/ASC -03
Anxiety comes from feeling controlled somehow; frustration and
rebellion; others don't co-operate as they should. A dispute, a defeat,
suffering with others.

Saturn = sa Moon/Mercury -04
Solving problems to grow in wisdom. The need for patience in thinking.
Difficult and slow thinking, the pursuit of gloomy or sad thoughts.
The desire to solve problems, concentration, difficult scientific work.
Separation. Taking leave, a journey.

sa Uranus = Venus / Mars -06 separating
(so again noting november/ december)

Intense passion; high nervous involvement with things sexual; sexual
experimentation; dangerous liaison. Sexual assault.

Pluto = sa Mercury/ Uranus -04
Tremendous power for work, action, leadership; getting the biggest job
done in a commanding way. Over-strained, over-stimulated nerves.

(well let`s not forget, midpoints cover EVERY life area, and I WAS getting the biggests jobs done professionally)

And I was also having progressions activating midpoint pictures

pVenus=pSaturn/Pluto -08 a
Self-discipline, love of solitude and seclusion, asceticism.
Estrangement and Alienation.

pMC = pSun/Venus-01
The love-union. A beautiful or wonderful human being, an aesthetic
person, the art-lover, the lover of nature, the artist.

pMoon = Moon/Saturn - 17 separating,
but since Moon is so quickly it actually means this one was "due" the week leading up to the concert.

Awareness of ambition, strategy, direction

The interesting thing here was that my pMoon was square my pUranus exact, and opposing HIS pSun.
Hence his p Sun was activating my Moon/Uranus - and again, I was being pushd into the "Uranus-corner"

SUN TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
A physique easily aroused by emotions. The sense of free will;
ambitious aspirations. A nervous male;

There is of course more, but I found THIS here interesting

pSaturn=pNeptune/MC - 06
the feeling of being wiped out; needing to correct past mistakes with honest, open, clear statements and plans

and also this:

To cause losses or weakness or neglect. To suffer or separate through having a wrong concept (notion) of the situation. !!!

Interestingly HE was having:
pMC= pVenus/Neptune
Hopes are not realized. Love's sorrow.
A romantic revelling in love, losing oneself in illusion. Profiting
through artistic creativity.

Just waiting for the next song now.

Nah seriously, I think I should have a more structured look at this when I hae more time

posted February 12, 2015 11:33 AM            

"Do you think there was any ill effect of even meeting with him during that shadow transit? Seems almost like, cursed energy!"
No, I don`t think so.
I also met him repeatedly when I was having Tr Saturn square my Moon exact (and my sa Venus btw LOL), and everytime it just made me more aware of how much he was affecting me. But also everytime it made it a little "more real". Actually the last time we met during Tr Saturn squaring my Moon exact was on the august concert, when he was approaching me agai.

actually the hits of Tr-Saturn to n Moon for me were these:

Tr Saturn square sa Venus: 19th november 2013
(this is what he was having last month. lol)

Tr Saturn square sa Moon: 30th november

And right in between on 23rd november, was the backstage event after the "Three Musketeer performance", and the following meeting of us, which as short as it was definitely meant a change in our pattern.

Then

2nd hit: Tr Saturn squar en Moon
26th june 2014
just 2 weeks after, the june concert.

3rd hit: 13th august
just 10 days before the august concert

So on all these occasions, when the square was exact I would have expected something gloomy, depressing painful to happen, something spelling rejection, and shaking me out of my delusions and dreams, as it is Saturn`s "job" to do.

Instead these become some of the most exciting occasions ever.

Well, maybe Saturn DID shake off some delusions, just maybe in my case the delusion was rather that I Was thinking he id NOT care about me,

Anyway interesting his nodal axis is semisquare my natal Saturn, it might be subtle but the connection is there, and Saturn transiting the nodes. it sort of pulls me into that Saturn-boat again I suppose.

Well I have already gone through my own Saturn-Venus-shadow transit.

Tr Saturn square sa Venus in november 2013,
and this one echoing

Tr Saturn square n VEnus in september 2010, which was just a little after I ended my disappearance-mode.
You know after we first met I disappeared for 2 years, and just showed up again in 2010.

Isn`t that interesting? How the Venus-Saturn-square seems to - mutually- describe the periods I take a "break"?
But als interesting I always show up DURING the Venus-Saturn transit, even if at the end of it. lol
(in this case it was in july 2010, some months before the last hit of the transit)

t what's his saMercury doing there? You think he's listening, on some level? "
=)"
LOL
Possibly.

"I take this stuff seriously because it gives me no choice. LOL"
Yes, exactly. Did you know that Rudra (another emanation of Siva/Mahakala) is the storm-god?

"But he gave me a look...which makes me think, he was aware of it."
He probably was.

i remember on that concert in 2011, when Mr Sag had been singing from exactly beside me, I was getting a little confused as from a certian point I could not tell anymore where I ended and he started. A feeling like the energy systems had mixed up somehow. Of course I did not let anything show, but after he had walked on a bit, he turned back to me after having taken several steps and gave me a very funny, puzzled look, like he had noticed something strange a well.

"he wasn't sure if he would even live,"
Did he make it through this okay?

"On your Mars! In SAG! omg omg"
Yes, you wanna know the Sabian of his Kaali?

"Cupid Knocks At The Door Of A Human Heart"

Actually my KAALI is square his Mars by one degree as well, so we have this neat harmless mellow little DW there. LL

btw my Kaali responds to this degree
"A Famous Pianist Giving A Concert Performance"

"Is my Vertex on your sun? I always get 26s and 28s mixed up..."
It is. Exact. How amazing!

posted February 12, 2015 11:35 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:
PS

On your SN?

And that opposes my 12 Sag Neptune.

*resonance*

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Yes, I have Kaali loosely on my SN.
He has Parvatil loosely on his SN.

And funny enough his Kaali conjuncgts my NN losely, my Parvati conjuncts his NN losely.

posted February 12, 2015 11:37 AM            

How do you relate to the Draco conjunctions with your best friend?

posted February 13, 2015 10:03 AM            

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Seems he was having one of the best and one of the toughest times at the same time astrologically.
Like he was having pr Venus exactly opposping Jupiter that night, but also having Tr Saturn square his nodal axis exact (along with his directed Venus).

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I'm trying to see it in the story...maybe he would have been even more subdued, except for the boost from Jupiter.

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it is difficult to NOT take note that his sa DESC was on 1°21 Scorpio, exact conjunct my n Uranus on 1°21 Scorpio.
And ONCE again it seems I was made (from the cosmos) to play the role of Uranus. lol

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Right! LOL

quote:

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Nevertheless, funny but yes I guess it makes sense that he became the agent for sort of triggering Uranus=Moon/Saturn for me.

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I see what you mean about how he would trigger that...when angles trigger something in synastry, is the effect usually more tangible/obvious than if a planet triggers it?

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"URANUS TO MIDPOINT MOON/SATURN
Reaching out for emotional freedom, exploding out of frustration or
inhibitions. Nervous tension, sudden mental and emotional suffering, separation."

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Is that why you didn't want his autograph?

quote:

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It has of course some nicer possibilities as well, but with Saturn AND Uranus in the same picture, there is of course a great tension between the "shall I stay or should I go?" theme, Uranus is literally representing the shock, the jolt to my personal need for emotional security (Moon/Saturn). The result could either be the blowing up (Uranus) again, of emotional barriers (Moon/Saturn) or an extreme experience of emotional tension, nervousness etc.

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Yeah I totally see what you mean. And it sounds a bit different than my moon=Uranus/Saturn MP, because the moon is absorbing the impact of that clash (Uranus is square Saturn) in a quiet, moonly way...unlike when Uranus is activating a midpoint, being the drama queen it is.

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his sa MC=Sun/Mars -00
it`s interesting that this was totally exact.

his sa MC= Moon/mercury -01
also very exact that day. Well Sun/Mars-mp relates to the man per se, masculinity, feeling active and energized, and Moon/mercury can literally mean communication with a woman. lol

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I love it. Well, he seems to always embody these things though.

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M.C. TO MIDPOINT MOON/MERCURY
Making decisions, usually about one's profession or social position.
Forming a spiritual relationship to a girl.

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Aww!

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saSaturn=Mercury/ASC -02
SATURN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
Adopting a strategic reserve in expression; withdrawing from a social
circle; protecting one's position; separation.

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I assume that the midpoints you listed before this all apply to him, too? How strange that so many things were happening at once.

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- this one is interesting also, because in his chart Mercury rules the 7th house (and the fourth house) and Saturn conjuncts the DESC very tightly.

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Maybe that's why, this was sort of the dominant impression that you got?

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So over the last year we had his sa Saturn= his sa Sun = my n Uranus
and now his sa DESC had joined that compelex, being exact on my natal Uranus.

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You homewrecker you.

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In a way it is also funnas it means that his directed Sun/Saturn-mp is connected to my natal Moon/Saturn-mp

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I love those male/female, sun/moon parallels.

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sa Pluto=Venus/MC -01
Fated compulsive attraction.

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Ha! Story of his life....

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MOON TO MIDPOINT SATURN/PLUTO
Emotional coldness, melancholy, renunciation. The tragic destiny of or because of a woman.

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Good thing it's just a transit, or you might think twice about eloping with him, once he finally gets around to asking.

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Nice, hu?

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Looks grumpy.

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...his were just a little weird, pretty much covering the extremes of isolation/separation to compelling attraction/relationship/engagement (and of course birth. lol).

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Yes.

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but still maybe his perception was different than mine, who knows?

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posted February 13, 2015 10:45 AM            

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sa Sun = Venus/ASC -10 s

A harmonious disposition coupled with a beautiful physique,
gracefulness, a sense of art. Showing oneself at one's best in terms of
appearance.
(it struck at the same time as HE was having this suffering, torment, dissolution, being irresponsible and selfish picture )

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LOL!

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Moon= sa Jupiter/Uranus -01

lol not really, right?

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You do seem happy lately, though.

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Saturn = sa Moon/Mercury -04
Solving problems to grow in wisdom. The need for patience in thinking.
Difficult and slow thinking, the pursuit of gloomy or sad thoughts.
The desire to solve problems, concentration, difficult scientific work.
Separation. Taking leave, a journey.

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I like this one. Just seems like it would be a cool personality trait. Then again I have Saturn opposing Mercury and am biased towards gloomy thinkers.

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sa Uranus = Venus / Mars -06 separating
(so again noting november/ december)
Intense passion; high nervous involvement with things sexual; sexual
experimentation; dangerous liaison. Sexual assault.

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Eek!

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(well let`s not forget, midpoints cover EVERY life area, and I WAS getting the biggests jobs done professionally)

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pMC = pSun/Venus-01
The love-union. A beautiful or wonderful human being, an aesthetic
person, the art-lover, the lover of nature, the artist.

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Another cool aspect...wish I had that natally.

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To cause losses or weakness or neglect. To suffer or separate through having a wrong concept (notion) of the situation. !!!

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Or, no clear notion of the situation? Just lots of vivid and intriguing puzzle pieces?

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Just waiting for the next song now.

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OMG you are too funny.

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I also met him repeatedly when I was having Tr Saturn square my Moon exact (and my sa Venus btw LOL), and everytime it just made me more aware of how much he was affecting me. But also everytime it made it a little "more real".

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*Nods* I completely get that. How interesting.

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Well, maybe Saturn DID shake off some delusions, just maybe in my case the delusion was rather that I Was thinking he id NOT care about me,

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Yep

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Isn`t that interesting? How the Venus-Saturn-square seems to - mutually- describe the periods I take a "break"?

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Uncanny.

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Did you know that Rudra (another emanation of Siva/Mahakala) is the storm-god?

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No. Thanks for telling me. I'll see if there's an asteroid Rudra...it was probably conjunct the sun that day...lol.

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i remember on that concert in 2011, when Mr Sag had been singing from exactly beside me, I was getting a little confused as from a certian point I could not tell anymore where I ended and he started. A feeling like the energy systems had mixed up somehow. Of course I did not let anything show, but after he had walked on a bit, he turned back to me after having taken several steps and gave me a very funny, puzzled look, like he had noticed something strange a well.

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Yeah, I think energy sharing like that cannot go unnoticed. I'll bet it cannot even HAPPEN without the conscious awareness of both parties.

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"he wasn't sure if he would even live,"
Did he make it through this okay?

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Thanks for asking ~ he's alive and well, but only has about five years left to live, according to the first prognosis. I'm worried because his pr sun is going to change signs in about two years. And I SO seriously do not want him to die. 'Cannot even bear to think of seeing him dying. Ugh, gotta change the subject....

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Yes, you wanna know the Sabian of his Kaali?
"Cupid Knocks At The Door Of A Human Heart"

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And blasts it open with a lightning strike if no one opens the door!

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Actually my KAALI is square his Mars by one degree as well, so we have this neat harmless mellow little DW there.

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Hahahhahah

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btw my Kaali responds to this degree
"A Famous Pianist Giving A Concert Performance"

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Oh that's lovely. He must like that.

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And for the time being when he is busy elsewhere, I simply will continue to let other men "serenade" me.

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Who?? Send YouTube videos if they are famous people, TAKE videos and post to YouTube if they are your colleagues or whatever.

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How do you relate to the Draco conjunctions with your best friend?

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I was just telling her about this draconic connection yesterday..for once we got to hang out in a bar, drink beer, and I could scribble astro charts on napkins. The way she reacted is typical and sorta answers the question:

She believes me (her dr Pluto on my moon) and even seemed a bit excited at the news
(her dr Uranus on my Jupiter) but was concerned what other people in the bar might be thinking, if they were eavesdropping (her dr Saturn on my sun, her dr Mars on my Saturn.)

Then she was showing my pictures of her new boyfriend on her phone and we were gushing about him practically in unison (our dr moons more or less conjunct.)

In some ways, she has always taken the lead...when we were little, I rebelled and rebelled until I figured out that she is smarter than me, and I get further in life when I listen to her advice.

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I was gobsmacked when I notice that my best friend and me have both Moon on each other`s Draco Sun.

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That is so nice!!

posted February 13, 2015 03:11 PM            

For me it was
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MOON TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/PLUTO
The power to speak with heart and soul and consequently convince
people; adaptability in thinking

ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT MOON/MARS
Personal enterprise, leadership

M.C. TO MIDPOINT SUN/VENUS
The love-union. A beautiful or wonderful human being, an aesthetic
person, the art-lover, the lover of nature, the artist.

MARS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Making things happen raucously; devil-may-care attitude. Active
intervention in one's environment.

URANUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/NEPTUNE
Sudden new imaginative ideas, inspiration, going far out ,
inventions, inspirations. Medical: convulsive nervous disturbances

Saturn= NEPTUNE/MC
the feeling of being wiped out, needing to correct past mistakes; wrong notion of a situation

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SATURN/PLUTO
Self-discipline, love of solitude and seclusion, asceticism.
Estrangement and Alienation.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT MOON/NODE
Inhibitions in team work or in living together. Sufferings
disadvantages or losses through associations. Separation.

MOON TO MIDPOINT VENUS/PLUTO
An overly intense emotional life, strong procreative power.
Motherhood.

posted February 13, 2015 03:21 PM            

M.C. TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NEPTUNE
A romantic revelling in love, losing oneself in illusion. Profiting
through artistic creativity.

M.C. TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NEPTUNE
A visionary, a fortune-hunter, a speculator, a philanthropist: the
potential for all kinds of self-indulgence.

MERCURY TO MIDPOINT SUN/MARS
Readiness for action, alertness, the desire to bring plans to
realisation. Fast talk. Busy travel. The thinking fighter or the
leader both in a struggle and at work.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MARS/ASC
Enthusiasm and leadership; harmonious public outreach.
Engagement, marriage.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MARS/ASC
A passionate disposition; love and sex are first concerns in
relationships; the art becomes important for personal expression.
Fighting spurred on by love and for the sake of love.

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Lack of energy, weakness, muddle-headed or confused aspiration; things
are unclear and insecure for no apparent reason. Nervousness,
exhaustion, sudden disappointment.

MARS TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/URANUS
Drive and determination towards success; a love of individual freedom;
speculation; changing fortunes. Engagement.

M.C. TO MIDPOINT MOON/MERCURY
Making decisions, usually about one's profession or social position.
Forming a spiritual relationship to a girl.

MARS TO MIDPOINT MOON/NODE
A vigorous advocacy of unions or associations, energetic teamwork.
A union based entirely on physical attraction, the desire to get
married.

M.C. TO MIDPOINT SUN/MARS
The tendency to do one's work for the love of it, to accept
responsibility gladly. The demonstration of a masculine character, the
character of a fighter, the attainment of success in life.

PLUTO TO MIDPOINT VENUS/M.C.
Tremendous focus on an artistic career; cultural exposure, publicity.
An unusual power of attraction. A strange providence in love
relationship. fated or compulsive love.

MOON TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NODE
The desire to seek a cordial, genuine and complete understanding with
others.

MOON TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE
Attaching great importance to spiritual relationships. An emotional
and enthusiastic projection to others. A happy union with a woman.

SATURN TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
Adopting a strategic reserve in expression; withdrawing from a social
circle; protecting one's position; separation.

posted February 14, 2015 06:58 AM            

Yes, nothing really lifechanging or major happens, without involvement of the luminaries and the angles.
In terms of the angles there is also something else in play, and that is that they sort of direct a flashlight on whatever they touch. PUll it to the forefront.
The Sun can also act in an illuminating way of course. However I am pretty sure we won`t find a lasting marriage/ relationship without either
a) person A`s planets conjunct person B`s angle at reasonable orb
or
b) person A`s having a strong tight aspect to an angular planet in person B`s chart.

posted February 14, 2015 08:59 AM            

But he looked as if he had never given it any thought at all before, and as if noone ever had told him that before. Which I find unlikely, but anyway. lol

BTW do you remember how I told you that Icouldn`t find the small notebook I had last year, and scribbling down notes about our meetings, and well it seemed like a bit of a bad sign that it had disappeared.

But it reappeared 2 days ago, and funny enough at a place where I have no clue how I could NOT have seen it before! It was pretty much lying on the middle of my desk, okay, my desk is the haven of clutter at the moment, but still it was VERY visible. lol

It also reappeared the same day I learned about his new musical project.

"I assume that the midpoints you listed before this all apply to him, too? How strange that so many things were happening at once."
Interestingly he was having even more midpoints activated at that given time than I did. I was having of course some progressions happening, but in fact no major directed midpoint, whereas he had more of these.
On the other hand the moment we talked Transiting ASC was exactly on my natal Venus/Mars-mp with 0°00 orb. LOL

And transiting Moon was on my natal Moon/MC-mp exact. 0.00 orb.
oh and on HIS natal
Moon/Uranus. 0.00

And fittingly on that day the square of my pMoon to my pUranus was becoming exact (as if my Aqua Moon needed more craziness! )

pMoon 2 Leo
pUranus 2 Scorpio
and this meant it was making a T-square with

his pSun 2 Aquarius

However this was just running as "background-program" as it was not directly triggered by transits,

oh, au contraire (sais the voice in the back of my mind, that seems to remember something.)

The moment we started talking the transiting ASC/MC-midpoint was on 4°14 Leo, 10 minutes before it had been on 2° Leo exactly, and well, that must have been around the time, both of us were aware that there was no way to avoid talking to each other on THAT occasion.

You know how much I love Sabians right?

So
my pr Uranus on 2 Scorpio
A House-Raising Party In A Small Village Enlists The Neighbors' Cooperation

his pr Sun on 2 Aquarius
A Deserter From The Navy

and my pr Moon and transiting ASC/MC_mp on 2 Leo
A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment

Well, the AC/MC-midpoint is important in event charts, because it represents "at this time at this place" and therefore defines the exact moment. So I can be sure it relates really to the two of us and not someone else, cause that was when we were at the same time at the same place and talking to each other.

Also means that his pSun was activating the pMoon/Uranus-mp for me (though through semisquare/sesisquare).

additionally for me personally
my pJupiter was on the direct p Moon/Uranus-mp as well.

So moon/uranus through andt hrough. LOL

and strenghtened for both of us, for him through transiting Moon on his Moon/Uranus-mp, and for me it was the transiting ASC/MC-mp on my p Moon/Uranus-mp. Well my own nMoon/Uranus-mp is far away from that (on 24 Sag actually)

But anyway so that Transiting Moon was activating my natal Moon/MC-mp with no orb, which is tied to my natal Jupiter anyway.
as Ihave natally

Jupiter=Moon/MC (0°11)
With a bit more orb there is also

Jupiter = Neptune/Node (1°10)

while the orb should ideally be under 1 degree, in the case of certain complexes, it can expanded a little, here in this case it would be utter nonsense to split up the complex of Jupiter-Neptune-NN as they are aspecting each other rather closely anyway, even without midpointing.
Which is probably not that good of a thing actually, Neptune therein.

Well Neptune is a bit "outside" of it all, and that might be a blessing in disguise, as it hopefully minimizes the illusionary character Neptune sometimes can have (well at best confusing I guess, or making things just intangible and too dreamy)

Neptune = Moon/MC (1°05)
Node = Moon/MC (0°52)

While the Neptune picture of course is relevant and valid too, it seems the Node and Jupiter on the MOon/MC are just MORE stressed here, especially in terms of the transiting Moon.

So we could say the transiting Moon was activating quite strongly at that moment (really limited to the 1 or 2 hours leading up to that moment) the natal midpoint pictures for me of:

Jupiter = Moon/MC = Neptune/Node
Node = Moon/MC
Neptune = Moon/MC

JUPITER = NEPTUNE/NODE
spiritual bonds with others; religiousness and spirituality tightesn relationships

(well Ebertin has different ideas about that one, but he always has nasty ideas about Neptune something about high hopes leading into certain disappointment and dissolution about a connection, also did not fail to mention something about illegitimate relationships, but I did not pay too much attention I suppose. )

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
Awakening of the aesthetic or things spiritual. Self-deception,
inclination to worry unnecessarily, the tendency to lose hope easily.
Being devalued or duped by a woman.

NODE TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
Adaptability, a sympathetic understanding of other people.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
The rich and deep soul-life, optimism and confidence. Enthusiasm, the
joy of hope or expectation, high aims or noble aspirations in life, a
deeply religious or social outlook. A happy relationship, a satisfied longing for children.

Yeah, well not everything really fits. Though of course this is just the potental described in my natal.

But where it gets very interesting for me is that at the same time the Tr Moon was also activating natal midpoint pictures in HIS natal, as the Tr Moon was exactly on his natal Mars, and within a degree of his natal Jupiter and therefore also opposing my Jupiter (and had just 2 hours before separated from highlighting his pr Venus-Jupiter-opposition).

So for him these natal midpoint pictures were activated

Mars=Moon/Uranus (0°04)
Mars=Uranus/MC (0°11)
Mars= Sun/Uranus (0°55)
Jupiter=Moon/Uranus (0°52)
Jupiter= Uranus/MC (0°41)
Jupiter=Sun/Uranus (0°01)

BTW the last is EXACT on my natal NN with 0.00 and 0.01 orb.

MARS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Excessive ambition, the craving for recognition, lack of self-control,
the tendency to act rashly. Acts of violence; injury.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Aims and objectives on a grand scale, ambitious aspirations. Good
intuition, circumspection and vision, a lucky hand in enterprises.
Satisfied ambition, sudden success.

MARS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Proneness to hasty physical action, combativeness, temperament.
Injury, accident.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Successful reformer, inventor or technician. Good cognition and
understanding. A pleasant surprise creating joy. Success.

MARS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
The tendency to become violent quickly, temperamental drive for ego
recognition; being argumentative and challenging. The attainment of
importance and authority through the display of unusual energy.
Quarrels, accident, injury, operation.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
Optimism, the joyful realisation of plans, the ability to resolve
tensions fortunately.

Well the complex of my Jupiter-Neptune-NN is of course (through the very tight aspects to his Mars-Jupiter) always activating these midpoint pictures (tied to his natal Mars-Jupiter) as well. So put us together into proximity and that is about the kind of energetic activation he receives.
A little bit Uranus, it is quite apparent, isn`t it? Actually when seeing that initially the thought flashed through my mind that having this activation (and a Jupiter as activator, like it comes from my chart, is not really that subdued and modest and slowish, it certainly is one of those energies, beside Mars and Uranus, that generates quite some buzz), well having someone kick off that energy in you, the thought flashing through my mind was: must drive him rather crazy.
And that was BEFORE I realized that this was exactly what he said about me!
So here you get a very literal expression of midpoint synastry.

Nevertheless when I checked for the natal midpoint structures (I was bored in school), I noticed that the man has 19 midpoint pictures containing Uranus. NINETEEN!
And I thought I was having many with 10 Uranian pictures. lol

But him? Wow, no wonder he was with the Aqua-girl for so long. Who else but another URanian could even endure that electrical buzz for longer than an afternoon?

So he is having

Mercury=Sun/Uranus 0.48
Mercury= Saturn/Uranus 0.40
Mercury= Uranus/ASC 0.08
Venus=Sun/Uranus 0.48
Venus=Moon/Uranus 0.06
Venus = Saturn/Uranus 0.52
Venus = Uranus/MC 0.04
Mars = Sun/Uranus 0.55
Mars= Moon/Uranus 0.04
Mars = Uranus/MC 0.15
Jupiter = Sun/Uranus 0.01
Jupiter= Moon/Uranus 0.52
Jupiter = Saturn/Uranus 0.06
Jupiter= Uranus/ASC 0.39
Jupiter = Uranus/MC 0.42
Pluto = Uranus/Neptune 0.36
ASC = Venus/Uranus 0.58
Node = Mercury/Uranus 0.01
Node = Jupiter/Uranus 0.24
Node = Mars/Uranus 0.52

Uranus = Sun/Pluto 46
Uranus= Venus/Neptune 0.13
Uranus = Saturn/Pluto 0.39
Uranus = Pluto / ASC 0.06

I think I miscounted in the first instance.
So 20 midpointpictures containing Uranus and 4 with Uranus as focal planet/ trigger.

He has some major complexes in his natal chart:
Sun-Moon-AC-MC-Saturn
and
Mars-Jupiter-Mercury-Venus

and it seems the common denominator of all these is Uranus.

BTW I also used the 8th harmonic, semisquare and sesisquare, maybe a bit more subtle energy but there nevertheless. I mean come on, I have Venus semisquare the Uranus/Neptune-mp in my own natal chart,

VENUS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/NEPTUNE
High sensitivity; fantasy life; revelling in love.
Venus-Uranus-Neptune (98)

Your romantic relationships are likely to be unusual. You are dreamy, idealistic, and excitable, and it is difficult for you to think clearly and objectively when involved in a romantic relationship. It is best to not rush into commitments quickly, as it takes time to see if your relationship has the ingredients for long-term commitment.

This is just too apt and true to be able to discount it.

Would you believe it? But this is what Mr Sag had in his directions on that concert last june:

Venus= Uranus/Neptune 0.00

lol

(though for him this came additionally with

pVenus = nMercury 1°07a
pVenus= n Venus/Pluto 0°23 a
nMercury= nVenus/Pluto 0°44

Venus= Mercury
Romanticizing, thoughts of love (the more since both planets rule the 7th house for him)

Venus = Venus/Pluto
improved acceptance for the indomitable

Mercury = Venus/Pluto
thinking about a sexual relationship; creative artistry)

his Venus/Pluto-mp is actually loosely connected to my ASC (1°38), Neptune (1°17) and NN (1°31)

WEll his Uranus/Neptune-mp is very closely aligned to my ASC (0°05)))

Anyway at that concert in january now with the Transiting Moon activating the Mars-Jupiter for him and Jupiter-Neptune-Node for me very directly, it did activate also his natal Venus (0°07) in 8th harmonic aspect.

and did activate also THESE midpoint pictures natally for me (8th harmonic)

Jupiter = Moon/Venus 0.24
Node = Jupiter/Neptune 0.25
Neptune= Jupiter/ASC 0.49
Neptune = Jupiter/Node 0.55

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/VENUS
A happy love-life, an abundance of feeling, an affectionate and
optimistic disposition. A wife's love reciprocated, happy
motherhood. Success in art.

the other interpretations I find too negative actually

All in all I`d say he pretty much activates all the latent potential in me to get very idealistic. lol And of course with Moon/Venus and Moon/MC there is a real emotional connection, at least I feel on my end.

For him there are these activations:

Venus= Neptune / Node 0.00
Venus= Mercury/Mars 0.41
Venus = Saturn/Uranus 0.52
Venus = Sun/Uranus 0.44
Venus = Mars/Jupiter 0.17
Venus = Uranus/MC 0.04
Venus = Moon/Uranus 0.07
Mars= Neptune/ Node 0.11
Jupiter = Uranus/ASC 0.39
Jupiter = Saturn/Uranus 0.07
Jupiter = Mercury/mars 0.04
Jupiter = Neptune / Node 0.51

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/MARS
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Tensions in romantic life; running hot and cold, off again, on
again ; feeling personally limited.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The ability to adapt oneself to every situation, a fortunate release
of tensions. A sudden turn in destiny;

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Sudden outbursts of affection and love, the tendency to fall in love
quickly. Romantic or unusual experiences of love.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Self-willed in love, sudden sexual activities, artistic creativity.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Coming into contact with others quickly and enthusiastically; a
fortunate re-arrangement of the environment; successful cooperation or team
work.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
A quick response to the stimulation of the senses, arousing physical
desire, creativity, possible promiscuity. A sudden
desire, procreation, birth.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MARS/JUPITER
A harmonious sex-expression, rich perceptive faculties and feelings,
creative artistic activity. Fortunate decision made in love and
marriage. Birth.

Well, yes I`d say this is one major complex, with so many midpoint pictures attached to it.

For me it goes "through" Jupiter, Neptune, Node, for him it is activated through his own Mars-Jupiter-Venus-(Mercury).

But of course it needs some external stimulus to get activated, here fleetingly and hence rather superifically made by the transiting Moon.
However I DO wonder about his pr Venus applying to my n Jupiter and of course opposing his natal Mars, and when it reaches it it will very strongly touch off this complex.

(his p Venus must reach 11 Pisces for that though, and that one will be "due" in 2016/ 2017 - before that it will start the "kicking off" period by pestering my Neptune and NN and his own Mercury and Jupiter and partly Venus - that one would take place this year, a slow start with his Mercury and my Neptune, hence increasing the confusion probably more than resolving it for now. lol)