posted February 16, 2015 03:40 PM            

Moving this out from the other thread:

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You two have composite mars square moon? Wow......"
We do.
Exact that one. 0°14
Plus VEnus square Pluto at 0°47

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*groans* That sounds difficult. But I know from experience how entrancing "difficult" can be....

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"my Dad has Moon conjunct Lilith closely (and opposing my Mum`s Sun)
my Mum has Lilith on 00 Cancer square Moon on 28 Virgo in 4th house."

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Impressive, how that all fits together. Kinda like you and Mr Sag, where so much fits together. Perhaps you inherited "fits-togetherness" from your parents?

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And they have 3 kids together.
But there is something different as my brother has the Down syndrome, and they took in my Mum`s sister to care for her (when I was a bit older than a year), as their mother had died very early, and my Granddad had to go to work, so someone had to watch over my aunt. So it was a tad different family situation than with most of my friends. lol

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Yes...so, overall, you think moon-Lilith in synastry might result in some intense experiences with children?

I have to look up my brother's Lilith...he and his wife (who has BML-MC in Cancer, as I said) have a son (my nephew) with spina bifida (wheelchair-bound and has required many surgeries over the course of his life.)

I'll probably delete that later.

posted February 16, 2015 05:30 PM            

The Venus-Pluto one is simply a theme / resonance between us, it had to come up in the composite again.
Not sure why Moon-Mars square happened though. lol

"Perhaps you inherited "fits-togetherness" from your parents? "
Pretty sure about that. I mean it seems like the athmosphere at home makes me inclined to seek out certain aspects in synastry as well.

For example, my Mum`s Saturn being on my Dad`s SN exact.
This one occurred in my synastry with Mr Law, as complete mirrorimage again (he did leave an impression many years ago, so I have to take the astrology serous at least. probably wants to tell me something. lol)

with Mr Sag it is my Saturn semisquare/sesisquare his nodal axis exact.

So a bit of a watered down Saturn-Node-aspect again, and again me playing Saturn, just like my mom.

Also my parents have a very dynamic interplay of Sun and Moon, in that my Dad has a natal Sun-Moon-square and my Mum puts her Sun in opposition to his Moon and square his Sun.

And again, with Mr Sag it is him having the Sun-Moon-aspect (conj.) and me putting my Sun on top of that.

Even the Lilith phenomenon resurfaces.
my Dad`s Lilith conjunct his Moon and squaring Sun and opposing my Mom`s Sun.

Mr Sag`s Lilith trine his Sun-MOon-conjunction and hence trine my Sun as well.

And just scratching the surface here. lol

"Yes...so, overall, you think moon-Lilith in synastry might result in some intense experiences with children?"
as one possibility yes. But it could also be just a very intense and unusual emotional connection of course.

"with spina bifida (wheelchair-bound and has required many surgeries over the course of his life.) "
I am sorry to hear that.

posted February 16, 2015 05:31 PM            

you had sa Venus conjunct your sun last august - so what great love of yours did you meet last summer, and why don`t I know about it?

posted February 16, 2015 05:36 PM            

We're not going to count him.

posted February 16, 2015 05:43 PM            

Ceri, Im not sure how to explain what I meant....
I think I meant were there any negative aspects, connections that I should know it be warned about.

Like is his wife going to kill me? Make my life hell? And can I deal with her? I'm not so sure.
She told me one time she knows what I'm thinking and what im going to say before I say it.
I would say she knows how I feel about him too.

posted February 16, 2015 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
None! I didn't meet anyone new! Except that ghost that followed me home one day and ended up next to me in bed, breathing.

We're not going to count him.

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Ghost?? For real?? Interesting...

posted February 16, 2015 05:46 PM            

NN conjunct Mercury
NN semisquare Venus
NN square Mars
NN square Jupiter
Jupiter square Mercury
Neptune conjunct Mercury
Ceres square Mercury
Jupiter semisquare Venus
Jupiter oppospite Mars
Jupiter oppospite Jupiter
Jupiter sesisquare Juno
Neptune semisquare Venus
Neptune square Mars
Neptune square Jupiter
Ceres semisquare Venus
Ceres opposite Mars
Ceres opposite Jupiter

Wow, that was a lot to write!

For me this means:

Neptune = SAturn/Uranus = Jupiter/ASC= Ceres/node= Jupiter/Ceres = Jupiter/Node

my NN= Saturn/Uranus = Jupiter/ASC = Neptune/Ceres = Ceres/Node = Jupiter/Ceres = Jupiter/Neptune = Mars/Juno = Moon/MC

my Jupiter = Mars/Juno = Moon/MC = Moon/Venus = Mercury/lilith = Juno/ASC

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
The rich and deep soul-life, optimism and confidence. Enthusiasm, the
joy of hope or expectation, high aims or noble aspirations in life, a
deeply religious or social outlook. A happy relationship to the mother or
the wife, a satisfied longing for children.

NODE TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
Adaptability, a sympathetic understanding of other people.
Professional contacts.

NODE TO MIDPOINT MOON/VENUS
Longing for tenderness, the urge to be united with the beloved person,
love of family and community, rewarding social contacts

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/VENUS
A happy love-life, an abundance of feeling, an affectionate and
optimistic disposition. A wife's love reciprocated, happy
motherhood. Success in art.

NODE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC
An appreciation of a beautiful environment, a love of pleasure and
social meetings. Needing to be with other people for their support and
appreciation of who one is.

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The inability to face emotional stresses. new vision fighting to be understood; resigning to
the inevitable, feeling lost.

NODE TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Too much combative energy to fit teamwork requirements easily.
Joint resistance to a common opponent

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The ability to adapt oneself to every situation, a fortunate release
of tensions. A sudden turn in destiny;

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE
Lack of clarity about the objectives of being or working together.
Sharing the spirit with others but not much else, especially in the
way of grounding.

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC
The tendency to live in hopes or expectations together with others,
hoping for personal luck, the inclination to speculate,

posted February 16, 2015 05:59 PM            

Mercury = Venus/Pluto = Neptune/Lilith = Uranus/ASC = Juno/Pluto = Saturn/Uranus = Sun/Uranus

Jupiter = Neptune/Lilith = Uranus/ASC = Pluto/Juno = Saturn/Uranus = Sun/Uranus = Mercury/Mars = Uranus/MC = Neptune/Node = Moon/Uranus

Mars = Sun/Uranus = Uranus/MC = Neptune/Node = Moon/Uranus

Venus = Saturn/Uranus = Sun/Uranus = Mercury/Mars = Mars/Jupiter = Uranus/MC = Neptune/Node = Moon/Uranus = Venus/Juno = Lilith/ASC

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/MARS
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
A quick response to the stimulation of the senses, arousing physical
desire in others, creativity, possible promiscuity. A sudden
desire, procreation, birth.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Sudden outbursts of affection and love, the tendency to fall in love
quickly. Romantic or unusual experiences of love.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Self-willed in love, sudden sexual activities, artistic creativity.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MARS/JUPITER
A harmonious sex-expression, rich perceptive faculties and feelings,
creative artistic activity. Fortunate decision made in love and
marriage. Birth.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Coming into contact with others quickly and enthusiastically; a
fortunate re-arrangement of the environment; successful cooperation or team
work.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
Optimism, the joyful realisation of plans, the ability to resolve
tensions fortunately.

MARS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
The tendency to become violent quickly, temperamental drive for ego
recognition; being argumentative and challenging. The attainment of
importance and authority through the display of unusual energy.

MERCURY TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Demands on nervous energy, decisions to be made about doing things a
new way; necessary stages of re-thinking. The ability to hit back hard
under provocation; ability to organise resistance. Necessary changes.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The ability to adapt oneself to every situation, a fortunate release
of tensions. A sudden turn in destiny

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Tensions in romantic life; running hot and cold, off again, on
again ; feeling personally limited.

MARS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Proneness to hasty physical action, combativeness, temperament.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Aims and objectives on a grand scale, ambitious aspirations. Good
intuition, circumspection and vision, a lucky hand in enterprises.
Satisfied ambition, sudden success.

MARS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Excessive ambition, the craving for recognition, lack of self-control,
the tendency to act rashly.

MERCURY TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Demands on nervous energy, decisions to be made about doing things a
new way; necessary stages of re-thinking. The ability to hit back hard
under provocation; ability to organise resistance. Necessary changes.

posted February 16, 2015 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am not aware of any bad aspects, Septembergirl.
And why do you think the wife could do you any harm?

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I don't know. It's just something I thought about if there ever comes a day where I can be honest with him about my feelings.

posted February 16, 2015 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
oh and of the dynamic aspect complexes and midpoints in Mr Sags and my comparision, I find this one here particularly interesting

NN conjunct Mercury
NN semisquare Venus
NN square Mars
NN square Jupiter
Jupiter square Mercury
Neptune conjunct Mercury
Ceres square Mercury
Jupiter semisquare Venus
Jupiter oppospite Mars
Jupiter oppospite Jupiter
Jupiter sesisquare Juno
Neptune semisquare Venus
Neptune square Mars
Neptune square Jupiter
Ceres semisquare Venus
Ceres opposite Mars
Ceres opposite Jupiter

Wow, that was a lot to write!

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K...I'm having some trouble latching onto the meanings here So, one little baby spoonful at a time...

NN conjunct Mercury

*Your NN = Saturn/Uranus = Jupiter/ASC = Neptune/Ceres = Ceres/Node = Jupiter/Ceres = Jupiter/Neptune = Mars/Juno = Moon/MC

*His Mercury = Venus/Pluto = Neptune/Lilith = Uranus/ASC = Juno/Pluto = Saturn/Uranus = Sun/Uranus

You bring these lovelies:

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NODE TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
Adaptability, a sympathetic understanding of other people.
Professional contacts.

NODE TO MIDPOINT MOON/VENUS
Longing for tenderness, the urge to be united with the beloved person,
love of family and community, rewarding social contacts

NODE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC
An appreciation of a beautiful environment, a love of pleasure and
social meetings. Needing to be with other people for their support and
appreciation of who one is.

NODE TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Too much combative energy to fit teamwork requirements easily.
Joint resistance to a common opponent

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To meet his....

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MERCURY TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
Demands on nervous energy, decisions to be made about doing things a
new way; necessary stages of re-thinking. The ability to hit back hard
under provocation; ability to organise resistance. Necessary changes.

MERCURY TO MIDPOINT VENUS/PLUTO
Artistic talent or love of art.

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So, positively, and we see this happening very dramatically (literally-- dramatically):

posted February 16, 2015 07:49 PM            

Jupiter opposite Mars

Ceri has:
Jupiter = Mars/Juno = Moon/MC = Moon/Venus = Mercury/lilith = Juno/ASC

Reading as follows:

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JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/M.C.
The rich and deep soul-life, optimism and confidence. Enthusiasm, the
joy of hope or expectation, high aims or noble aspirations in life, a
deeply religious or social outlook. A happy relationship to the mother or
the wife, a satisfied longing for children.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT MOON/VENUS
A happy love-life, an abundance of feeling, an affectionate and
optimistic disposition. A wife's love reciprocated, happy
motherhood. Success in art.

JUPITER TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The ability to adapt oneself to every situation, a fortunate release
of tensions. A sudden turn in destiny;

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Mr Sag interacts with all that through his Mars and its midpoints:
Mars = Sun/Uranus = Uranus/MC = Neptune/Node = Moon/Uranus

quote:

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MARS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
The tendency to become violent quickly, temperamental drive for ego
recognition; being argumentative and challenging. The attainment of
importance and authority through the display of unusual energy.

(Let's just pretend we didn't see that... )

MARS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Proneness to hasty physical action, combativeness, temperament.

(Or that... )

MARS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Excessive ambition, the craving for recognition, lack of self-control,
the tendency to act rashly.

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Well at least Ceri has "the ability to adapt oneself to every situation," to cope with any rash actions on Mr Sag's part! And to match all his sky high ambition, Ceri has "high aims or noble aspirations in life," (good for you, Ceri!!!) and "success in art."

posted February 16, 2015 08:00 PM            

Neptune semisquare Venus

Ceri's Neptune:
Neptune = SAturn/Uranus = Jupiter/ASC= Ceres/node= Jupiter/Ceres = Jupiter/Node

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NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT SATURN/URANUS
The inability to face emotional stresses. new vision fighting to be understood; resigning to the inevitable, feeling lost.

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/NODE
Lack of clarity about the objectives of being or working together.
Sharing the spirit with others but not much else, especially in the
way of grounding.

NEPTUNE TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC
The tendency to live in hopes or expectations together with others,
hoping for personal luck, the inclination to speculate,[/b]

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All of this aspecting Mr Sag's Venus and its midpoints~

Mr Sag:
Venus = Saturn/Uranus = Sun/Uranus = Mercury/Mars = Mars/Jupiter = Uranus/MC = Neptune/Node = Moon/Uranus = Venus/Juno = Lilith/ASC

quote:

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VENUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/MARS
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT URANUS/M.C.
A quick response to the stimulation of the senses, arousing physical
desire in others, creativity, possible promiscuity. A sudden
desire, procreation, birth.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
Sudden outbursts of affection and love, the tendency to fall in love
quickly. Romantic or unusual experiences of love.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MOON/URANUS
Self-willed in love, sudden sexual activities, artistic creativity.

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MARS/JUPITER
A harmonious sex-expression, rich perceptive faculties and feelings,
creative artistic activity. Fortunate decision made in love and
marriage. Birth.

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Just to take the spicy view of things... I like Ceri's "tendency to live in hopes or expectations together with others, hoping for personal luck" matched with Mr Sag's "sudden outbursts of affection and love, the tendency to fall in love quickly" combined with his "sudden sexual activities."

posted February 16, 2015 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Pretty sure about that. I mean it seems like the athmosphere at home makes me inclined to seek out certain aspects in synastry as well.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For example, my Mum`s Saturn being on my Dad`s SN exact.
This one occurred in my synastry with Mr Law, as complete mirrorimage again (he did leave an impression many years ago, so I have to take the astrology serous at least. probably wants to tell me something. lol)

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Right...I agree it wants to tell you things! Just like Elvis and his chart have wanted to tell me all kinds of things. Well his ASC is conjunct my Neptune, so he was channeling me before I arrived on this planet...

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
with Mr Sag it is my Saturn semisquare/sesisquare his nodal axis exact.

So a bit of a watered down Saturn-Node-aspect again, and again me playing Saturn, just like my mom.

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Interesting! I should probably check my parents' charts more closely. One thing off the top of my head: my mother's Chiron conjunct my father's Pluto & my Chiron trine my husband's Pluto.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Also my parents have a very dynamic interplay of Sun and Moon, in that my Dad has a natal Sun-Moon-square and my Mum puts her Sun in opposition to his Moon and square his Sun.

And again, with Mr Sag it is him having the Sun-Moon-aspect (conj.) and me putting my Sun on top of that.

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Amazing...that is incredible.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Even the Lilith phenomenon resurfaces.
my Dad`s Lilith conjunct his Moon and squaring Sun and opposing my Mom`s Sun.

Mr Sag`s Lilith trine his Sun-MOon-conjunction and hence trine my Sun as well.

And just scratching the surface here. lol

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posted February 16, 2015 09:35 PM            

Lilith represents the temptress, seducer, and is often compared to a “home wrecker.” Lilith represents the scary side of women, and what men fear the most. The fulfillment of her sexual appetites and desires was what Lilith cared for the most, and any attempt to hamper her sexual self-expression was met with hostility and violence. Lilith is magnetic, and has the power to mesmerize those she comes in contact with. She uses sexuality to further her own goals, and takes no prisoners.
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In a man’s chart, Lilith represents the type of woman he fears, and craves, the most. It is the type of woman that can drive him over the edge with obsession and desire.
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In synastry, Lilith brings an untamed, wild sexual energy, feelings of obsession, and intense, transformative interactions. When your Lilith aspects your someone’s planet (especially the Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, or the Ascendant), you are magnetically attracted to this person, and can’t get them out of your mind. This aspect shows an amazing amount of sexual chemistry and an obsessive attraction.
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Like Pluto, Lilith aspects in synastry act to draw out each person’s sexuality. Lilith sex is tantric, obsessive, and highly addictive. Couples with strong Lilith in synastry have an incredibly strong sexual attraction to one another, and it is difficult to keep them apart! Logic does not apply in Lilith relationships. Indeed, Lilith is what makes a man end a 20-year marriage out of the blue. Indeed, Lilith’s reputation as a “home wrecker” is well deserved. On the plus side, she can break someone free of their safe, habitual behavior.
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Lilith relationships do not usually last, unless there are other supportive aspects. Couples with strong Lilith synastry aspects often break down due to feelings of unworthiness, rage, and revenge. Sometimes, the Lilith person keeps the planet person under her spell until she has succeeded in destroying the life of the planet person.....
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posted February 16, 2015 10:50 PM            

I feel like I'm trying to put together a puzzle and a bunch of pieces are missing!!

And I'm so scared I'm running out of time....that if he does have feelings for me, they are going to change.

posted February 16, 2015 11:07 PM            

But anyway...

What do your Liliths do in synastry...anything?

Mine is pretty significant in my life:

7 Aries BML
6 Sag Venus
7 Leo, husband's sun

Then, his BML is at 7 Pisces, squaring my Venus, trine my 6 Scorpio Uranus. Interestingly when we got engaged after 1 date, BML was transiting at 4 Scorpio.

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I sympathize with what you are saying: you don't want an affair. All or nothing, right?