posted February 17, 2015 08:20 PM            

I mean...his personal appearance and my work life match well? What? Doesn't make sense.

His descendant obviously conjuncts my IC as well. His partnership needs and my domestic needs matching up seems to make a little more sense. I can interpret most aspects well..but this one is harder.

I don't even know where to begin on the Ascendant square Ascendant aspect.

How do the Astrological gurus feel about these synastry aspects?

Just recently discovered it in one of my favorite relationships of all time.

posted February 18, 2015 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Regulus18:
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Welcome to your experience of "Only certain people ever get replies on this side. Mostly the popular people talking to each other". If you keep trying, one of the mods may/will likely eventually reply to your query, but it's likelier you'll get a reply from a specific one by begging for their attention by name, which defeats the purpose of posting a thread as a general query for everyone to pitch in.

My apologies for not being able to say much about the astrological side personally, since I do tend to be more on the learning side even after whatever years of looking at things. Cohesion doesn't come easily to me with some things.

I wouldn't look at Ascendant for a personal appearance though, that only coming to mind after you mentioned it here. I think some people talk about ASC and Sun as the inner and outer personalities or styles, how people come off to others? Appearance is only some of that.

MC is also how you appear in public in other ways, I guess, aside the careers it's said to denote. I've personally lately had two cases with similar charts or similar things happening one way or another in the synastries, and both had MC conjunct my ASC. I noticed both people through their work, in a way. It was something they were putting out into the world and I ended up praising it or putting my personal stamp of "I like this, I want more of this kind of thing to exist and to be around" on what I saw. This in turn made for some reciprocation from the MC, since of course people are going to like it if someone is perceptive about their work or what they're doing?

That's one example, and if you know the other already it may be for entirely different reasons. The ASC may in any case appreciate what the MC does in their work life or in their public appearances or the public image they have, I suppose, and identify with it to whatever extent. My reaction to one MC was "I can always tell my own" and the feeling was that what they'd produced was speaking to me on a personal level, and to some extent depicted who I was, inside or in likes. Kindred spirit recognition or reconnection.

Of course this is from the creative realm, so I'm not saying the ASC will automatically feel the same about the MC working as a plumber, florist, banker or nurse. Just that something on the MC's side may seem familiar to the ASC, or like something they can approve or go along with? How the ASC is fits in well with what the MC is doing, so the MC should likewise find the Ascendant either familiar or something that fits in with what they're doing? There isn't a clash between goals and how someone is?

I actually hadn't yet considered your "His descendant obviously conjuncts my IC as well. His partnership needs and my domestic needs matching up seems to make a little more sense." Thank you for reminding me about that as well. I assume that side may have a bit more to do with my "I know my own" reaction as well, if talking about potentially liking how someone is beyond their public image or doings. How they are at home or in private, their homebase and deepest roots, vibing with what I want in a partnership, perhaps. Should make for some relaxing times at home, while the ASC-MC conjunction end takes care of business outside the home?

posted February 22, 2015 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Keela, well done. I'm a novice myself, but sounds like true speak to me. Just makes so much sense! Ummm...lol @ some of your other comments. Keep studying. It'll be nice to have you around. You can save the lost threads sinking slowly, slowly to the bottom.

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Thank you for the comment about the informational side. I know some things or can extrapolate based on personal experiences (scarce as they may be compared to some people's) but I'm not around that much to read every thread (See my number of posts since 2012 and compare to yours, for example). Nor am I fully proficient in phrasing right even what I may know. I also naturally more likely click open things that have things I'm interested in, same as everyone, so it's about timing and what happens to happen here when I have the time.

The rest was my personality expressing slight eyerolls or frustration over so many people seeming to get one reply only at best, or none at times. I don't click on every "2-4 replies" thread either so many of those may likewise be the original poster just bumping it for some attention, and never getting a response. People do this for free in their free time and not everyone is around all the time, but it's annoying to look at the same (say 2-4, depending on thread) people talking only to each other on the same massive posts for 15-gazillion pages (and thus obviously being AROUND and here, with enough time to reply to something) when questions from people who aren't their friends go unanswered. Pardon me for having issues with it and occasionally getting "FFS" enough about it for it to stir up into an actual comment as well.

posted February 22, 2015 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
... I happen to have an exact AC-AC square in my relationship right now, and before that, have had another relationship with someone where our ACs were exactly conjunct. I do think that those kinds of angle contacts, especially if exact or near exact, are highly significant based on the fact that angles move so very quickly. If the birth time were just a little different, the angle contact wouldn't be there - so they are very personal points and the probability of having such a contact between two charts is rather slim. That's why I pay attention when I see them. To me, it means a "locking in" of the charts of sorts… but I don't know whether there can be a cookbook-type interpretation of what this means, or how exactly that energy manifests, as I think it would depend on the whole chart, and on the nature of the signs on the angles.

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It's good to remind about the quickness of the angles since while the basic starting point in a way, it gets glossed over easily, I guess. It also depends on people's charts how likely the angles are going to line up with an ASC-ASC square if there is the MC conj ASC as not everybody has ASC square MC in their own chart. Mine are closer to a 4 degree trine, for example, so if someone has more than one angle doing something with my end, it's usually a good clue to pay a lot of attention.

The Vertex is the third one I check, as that isn't always conjunct DC either. Mine's 19 Sag when the DC's 6 Aquarius, so obviously not the "easy" extra synastry hits that some people get with DC-VX conjunctions. Actually, this is me possibly being a bit picky about one of my MC-cases, since their ASC is 4 deg square my ASC as well, but I've gotten so used to looking at smaller orbs that it seems a bit less of a primary thing. I'm more interested in its contrascia to my Sun (as if my Sun was on their DC in a way).

posted February 22, 2015 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Regarding what Keela said about posts going unanswered - isn't it really rather understandable that if someone is busy talking in another thread, that they don't immediately notice other threads are being posted at the same time? And, not every question is easy to answer, so people who don't get helped might think of stating the question differently if they receive too little feedback. Maybe they weren't being too clear about what they actually want? There's no need to assume it's intentional neglect based on how long someone has been posting. Explaining the question or adding more content often helps to get more attention for the problem. Moreover, everybody who feels that particular threads are neglected is very welcome to help answering them, Mod or not. I've noticed some of the Mods here have not been around at all, or only a little during the past few weeks, maybe they're busy elsewhere, who knows? This can happen to anyone. It's not like they are getting paid for the job, they are volunteers. And, one can always use the E-mail function in a Mod's profile if one wants to alert them to something, or post a shout-out thread.

@Keela…Did you notice I posted a brothers-in-arms thread as suggested in I'm so cappy's marriage markers thread? Come over there and contribute, if you want! Feel free to post your observations on your own synastries or whatever comes to mind on the topic - it wasn't meant to be only for analyzing my own. Actually I hope there might be similar markers in several different cases in the end, so the more cases to study, the better.

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Actually, at a glance it seems that if a question is too "easy" (including but not limited to, "JFGI" or "We've talked about this a dozen times already, get with the picture") people get reluctant to answer it. I get it since answering the same old things dozens of times over months and months gets tiresome, but when it gets to where there is discussion in a couple of very long threads over several days and nobody bothers to drop breadcrumbs to the "lowly nobodies" on the side, it can look a little annoying from the outside. It's not "Oh, we were on this thread now and didn't the following day upon our return to the same thread on this board notice that there were 25-40 other threads on the board as well". Or if it is someone having a tab open to a specific thread and only looking at that, it's still a little counterproductive to the rest of the board's functioning.

Also, I already stated the reasons you bring up.

Intentional neglect supposedly based on time of membership is not relevant or the issue. Neglect because some other things are more fun (including hanging out with specific friends you know you get along with) is more it. You don't always need a lot of time to click with someone as a friend either. (*INSERT SATURNINE DISAPPROVAL OF FUN, THE FIENDISH THING. HOW DARE PEOPLE HAVE FUN, REALLY?*)

The Asteroids-side seemed more fun/active when the asteroid synastry threads were still there, too, but with all that moved out now that's half dead as well (including me neglecting it the past months, yes), so I wonder if my appearance of its activity levels was based on the synastry-threads then as well. It seemed more synastry-threads were more active there than on this side these days now.

If people ask about asteroids or draconic charts, they often get no more new answers than what exists that far either, since nobody really knows. I don't see how phrasing the question differently is going to help if people ask because there is no searchable info out there and this place seems to talk asteroids, for example. IMO people often ask too specifically and as if there was one set answer only, when things don't work like that.

An example:

"How is a SQUARE between asteroid Gold and Dejanira? What if draconic Sphinx conjuncts one?" Well how the hell should we know? Do you want us to extrapolate/guess what Gold and Dejanira do together? Add in the traditional suggestions of aspect-type influences yourself. We can't know how you personally like square-energies, after all. WHERE are the asteroids, sign-wise and in houses? Are they actually square at all - as in, do you know enough about asteroid aspects to keep it mostly under 2 degrees, or do we have to specifically ask you that as well?

You can criticize anything and seem wrong about some sides or not be got or have people excuse things because "Of Course There Are Reasons Why This Happens, A-Plenty". It doesn't change that many threads get very little attention if any, while people chatter away with their friends on 1-2 other ones. Observation. The reasons are basically irrelevant if the thing is happening, anyway, and can be changed by devoting a few more answers a week to something else, if constantly here for the other thing as well. *shrug* Pragmatic approach. I "shouldn't" be here writing this instead of writing something to someone else, but since the vexation over the observation has been bubbling for a while, this happens when tired enough.

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posted February 22, 2015 06:25 PM            

I hope to finally update certain threads today or tomorrow, but I'm extremely weak.

My fellow Mods do what they can. We become annoyed with members who are less than kind to other members, or regularly seem antagonistic. Newbies? Bring 'em on! Those who repeatedly bump their own threads? I have no issue with it.

I will say that certain things can be found through either a Google or site search. If you've posted a thread, it gets lost, you bump it, and still receive nothing after several hours, do a bit more research.

As a Mod, I'm frequently posting new threads; some are personally directed research, others seem in line with 'what's trending'. (LL is not free from the phenomenon on trends. Just see what threads are hot to get a sense of what's trending.)

Many want to help, but are either occupied in other threads (or forums) and lack the immediate familiarity. I've been at this long enough to be able to pop off most from off the top of my head (usually, that is, when my brain's working) but we all have questions which make us have to consult our libraries, or phone a friend.

posted February 26, 2015 11:26 PM            

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Well, I've been battling all manner of seasonal nastiness since Christmas, so my involvement is both sporadic, decreased and subpar.

I hope to finally update certain threads today or tomorrow, but I'm extremely weak.

My fellow Mods do what they can. We become annoyed with members who are less than kind to other members, or regularly seem antagonistic. Newbies? Bring 'em on! Those who repeatedly bump their own threads? I have no issue with it.

I will say that certain things can be found through either a Google or site search. If you've posted a thread, it gets lost, you bump it, and still receive nothing after several hours, do a bit more research.

As a Mod, I'm frequently posting new threads; some are personally directed research, others seem in line with 'what's trending'. (LL is not free from the phenomenon on trends. Just see what threads are hot to get a sense of what's trending.)

Many want to help, but are either occupied in other threads (or forums) and lack the immediate familiarity. I've been at this long enough to be able to pop off most from off the top of my head (usually, that is, when my brain's working) but we all have questions which make us have to consult our libraries, or phone a friend.

This one is not as simple as it looks. Like Vajra's said, it's a personal connexion, given the angles' involvement. So, more so, there are entire articles and even chapters dedicated to ASC square ASC, as well as ASC conjunct MC.

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Articles and chapters! Where? I must know! lol

posted February 27, 2015 01:20 AM            

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Articles and chapters! Where? I must know! lol

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posted February 27, 2015 10:47 AM            

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... the Internet? Heh. Seriously, there are answers. I'll see if I can't compile some of them for you.

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Awesome thank you! In the mean time here is the chart.

posted February 27, 2015 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Keela, well done. I'm a novice myself, but sounds like true speak to me. Just makes so much sense! Ummm...lol @ some of your other comments. Keep studying. It'll be nice to have you around. You can save the lost threads sinking slowly, slowly to the bottom.

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Hey there! Long time no see! Glad to meeting on better terms!

posted February 27, 2015 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ah. Okay, don't get so hung up on the angles. If anything, they're more of a 'flag' than anything. Instead think of how your 1H points operate in the other's 10H. Look at it in terms of 'this is the area of operation or focus' and how those shift and vary, depending upon the overlays.

For example, one's 4H planets are going to feel rather exposed above the horizon, in another's 7H.

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Hm Ok. I don't really understand what you mean when you say "flag" but it would seem that you are not angle oriented when it comes to synastry. No problem!

Thanks for your answer.

posted February 28, 2015 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Regulus18:
Hm Ok. I don't really understand what you mean when you say "flag" but it would seem that you are not angle oriented when it comes to synastry. No problem!

Thanks for your answer.

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I'm as 'angle-oriented' as much as any other astrologer. I feel you're overthinking this, however.

Your ASC conjunct his MC really doesn't mean anything outside of how each house directs the energies of the points inside of them. By looking at it SO specifically, you're getting caught up in details which are really only meant to lead to determining how each set of energies operates in an overlay.