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Topic: Blind Writer may i ask your opinion on this
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Fionapineapple
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posted February 18, 2015 02:45 PM
  
I'm ambivalent about this, I see good things and bad things here, any warnings especially with asteroids?
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Blind writer
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posted February 19, 2015 04:56 AM
I agree that this is a mixed bag. The biggest thing right off the bat is his MERCURY-URANUS-NEPTUNE in super tight conjunction and trine your MOON. That's an impressive conjunction - he strikes me as a creative type, someone who can definitely think outside the box, or come up with unique solutions. It's also a strong psychic indicator, in the 8H, even if it's grounded in Cap.Would you mind posting the composite? I can get a more comprehensive picture that way. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 19, 2015 08:18 PM
Thank u so much for your response heres the composite
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Blind writer
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posted February 20, 2015 11:00 AM
First off, this is clearly a karmic reunion. Your SUN is square his nodes, so you represent some unfinished business he was unable to deal with in the past. His SATURN on your NN indicates perhaps an ongoing debt, or an untaught lesson that will lead you forward on your life path. You've also got nodes aspecting the VX axis, which is a big karmic indicator.You've got a natal NEPTUNE-CHIRON opposition, which can block, or zap all your creative energies. You may feel easily drained, or easily "drowned" by a large influx of energy. You've also got KAALI conjunct CHIRON, which is associated with kundalini and tantric flow, and placed in your 8H can give it a particularly raw edge. Sex may scare you, because you feel like who you are is literally dissolving away by the ebb and flow of energy that naturally occurs. He has gentle, selfless support to offer you via trine from his Pisces VENUS, but the t-square from his I-must-make-this-right JUPITER may be too much for your Cancer placements to handle. If this is a romantic interest, you may also be afraid of being "friend-zoned" by this huge presence in your 11H. Use that sextile to your own MOON for all the potential it offers you to emotionally connect and contribute. All in all, it's an emotional, sexual, and cathartic magic rectangle. Very creatively charged - you can make or do amazing things together. This all aspects back to your 1H PLUTO, so can have a profound impact on what you decide to be (yours is a life of change). This kind of therapeutic transformation is useful, and easier for you than for him. His CHIRON receives only harsh aspects from SATURN and your intense Scorp PLUTO. Be mindful and gentle with your criticisms - while good to lend pragmatism and a dose of reality to his super-stellium, try not to let your SATURN be a harsh judge to his wild ideas. His JUNO aspects your JUPITER, so he's quite fond of your gregarious side. Meanwhile, your JUNO on his PLUTO implies a great desire for deep attachment. I like this double aspect, since you both have a capacity and desire to commit. I think his sparsely aspected MOON is your number one trouble spot, though. Your SATURN on his SUN is not so bad - it gives you a reputation as the constructive and responsible one, but the square to his MOON implies he may find it too critical, cold, or difficult to open himself up and be vulnerable about his feelings. Your sensitive SUN-VESTA in Pisces has to coax it out of him. Overall, you're water-earth, while he is more earth-air, so his dynamic may seem difficult for you to grasp at times. Your watery need for depth may be at cross-purposes with his airy need for freedom from time to time. This is reflected in your 12H air stellium in the composite, which is a cold kind of placement, but irresistibly mysterious. You've got cVENUS right on the cAC, which is a good spot for a benefic, as it gives your entire relationship a feel-good, positive kind of vibe. The cSUN is here too, which makes this an important relationship to you both. These form a t-square with cJUPITER and cPLUTO, which is more evidence that you two can really make something great, that can positively influence people. cMARS is also a key player, aspecting the nodes in a big way. He's at home in Aries, so raring to go. The 3H placement may indicate travel for constructive purposes, or even activism, or to share ideas. Using that MARS to build for the big picture (11H Cap NN) is something you two can effectively start together. cPALLAS in the 1H, you both value the intellectual rapport you can create. And cJUNO in the 7H, you have good potential to be a deeply devoted pair (not to mention the cPSYCHE-EROS conjunction in the 12H). Finally, with cMOON in the 8H, you can be rather insightful and intuitive together. When you're in sync, it's a fabulous thing. It really is a huge mixed bag. I see mostly creative potential, and less in the way of dreamy romance. He is more disconnected than you are, but the cNN hits his super-stellium in a big way. Either way, both of you are set to learn a lot from this relationship. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 20, 2015 05:05 PM
Very mixed! I got confused.Thank u so much! I hope the creative stuff comes out. Its so funny bc the attraction to each other was immediate, but i felt intimidated like i didnt grow enough to handle any type of relationship with him bc it would bring up things i feel inadequete about (NN conj. Saturn) haha
But yea, i was amainly trying to pinpoint what the ongoing karma could be. I looked at Draconic synastry and Drac/Natal comparison and i noticed since my natal Sun squares his natal NN, its exactly conjunct his Dr Eros, Draconic Sun is exactly conjunct his Valentine which is opposite his natal Nessus and seemed like trouble to me. His Draconic Nessus and Dejanira are conjunct my natal NN. The list continues but thats what i was trying to figure out, what the hell couldve happened before that led to us nowIP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted February 20, 2015 07:22 PM
I cannot see the degrees, but it looks like his NESSUS and DEJANIRA are too wide to be considered conjunct. Moreover, I would not try comparing his draconic placements to your natal (and vice versa) to figure things out. Draconic to draconic is your best bet for karmic clues.As it stands, I don't think you had a tragic past, just one with obstacles, such as time or society. You have nSUN-VESTA, so you may have been something akin to a Vestal Virgin (or a nun) that was out of reach. His SN aspects your nDNA, so perhaps you were family members, or hindered by family. The unfinished business doesn't necessarily strike me as romantic in nature. I do like his drSUN conjunct his nVALENTINE, though. It means he learned about the importance of unconditional love. This is also shown by his nVENUS in Pisces which is very selfless in love. You have a prevalent NEPTUNE presence/energy floating about. It can indicate a strong religious connection, as well. The draconic is representative of our base soul, which is why it can be a good indicator of our karmic past. It is the root beginning of our MOON (our inner self), and what we carry with us inherently. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 20, 2015 07:56 PM
Draco / Draco are ongoing dynamics that are happening 'elsewhere'. (Draco / Tropical shows how it's impacting the here and now.) Draco-to-Draco aren't outstanding dynamics as much as they're resolved, yet ongoing 'karmic undercurrents', if you will.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 20, 2015 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
I do like his drSUN conjunct his nVALENTINE, though. It means he learned about the importance of unconditional love.
Reverse that; this isn't dSUN to dVAL, it's dSUN to nVAL. This is outstanding. Sometimes we find a previous lesson to have special impact upon our present life / timeline, but that tends to stem from having not quite mastered it elsewhere / the first (hundred?) times around. Draco-to-Tropical is a bit more complex than Draco/Draco. It requires a bit more investigation. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 21, 2015 05:05 AM
I meant my Draconic Sun is exactly conjunct his natal Valentine and also Spirit asteroid. But i see what Blind Writer is saying and i figure it must have been something religious or very spiritual in my past bc of my natal Sun/Vesta squaring his nodes. But theres a twist!But when i look at Drac/Drac synastry I see:
my Venus conjunct his Eros, Sun conjunct Sun, my Mars/Dejanira conjunct his DC, my Saturn/Lilith conjunct his Pluto, my Mercury conjunct his Merc/Uran/Neptune, and my Neptune is conjunct his Psyche IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 21, 2015 06:48 AM
Also i dont think i got to put it in, but natal/natal synastry along with his Saturn conjunct my NN, he has Lust conjunct my NN. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 21, 2015 01:53 PM
Ahhh. SYNASTRIC dSun to nVAL is a horse of a different colour.The essence and core of your soul, the personality that has emerged over a plethora of lifetimes in infinite dimensions, has something crucial to teach him in regards to unconditional 'true love' in this timeline / relationship. I say this due to exactitude. It's clearly one of the strongest links between you, and is operating continuously as an undercurrent. This also represents an outstanding contract that's the result of many energies, lifetimes and experiences. In terms of what's resolved, and has built over that time ... + a loving and erotic connexion (VENUS/EROS) + a sense of unity, oneness and similarity (SUN conjunct SUN) + a volatile marriage, in which you likely suffered abuse, or were otherwise victimised (MARS/DEJA=DSC) + an intense series of power plays, in which he proved the victor (SATURN/LILITH=PLUTO) + fellow students of a variety of subjects: alchemy, spirituality and technology -- which created a strong mental connexion which continues underneath; this also hints at sibling relationships with a spiritual basis or direction. This created a telepathic bond between you as well, which can be activated in the present with Tropical aspects. + compassionate, altruistic relationship, likely to involve healing and / or prognostication; you were likely an older entity who helped heal his psychic wounding. (NEP/PSYCHE)
The SUN/VESTA=NODES in the Tropical does link to an outstanding debt, which can certainly be monastic in nature. Indeed, VESTA is devoted and selfless in her servitude of a higher cause. Curiously, the Vestal Virgins were not virgins; they merely devoted their sexuality to their higher purpose.
If other factors persist, this could be the indication that this man was either one who was betrayed as a result of your giving into passions and failing to remain devoted. He carries the karma, and is seeking the debt to be paid (or to have the chance to pay the debt, as well.) This is crucial to you, and the relationship in this lifeline, as it's your SUN (and VESTA) that's involved. He can help you, by clearing this karma, to retain your full creativity and sense of devotion; your ability TO be fully devoted, and fully committed. You may be coming together now so that you are able to regain your full inner light (SUN/VESTA) and to be able to commit fully and wholeheartedly, which is hindered as a result of this karma. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 21, 2015 08:58 PM
Ahhh, thank you Auby thats what i suspected, a possible abusive relationship in the past, and us being involved in spiritual practices or schools together. I had to keep digging bc there were so many abusive in-your-face aspects between us i needed to know whats up. Like his Nessus squares my Venus, his Dejanira is right on my Asc, his Chiron is very close to my MC and conjunct my SN, his Saturn as i mentioned above is with my NN/Karma both being veryy close to my IC. So, Im being kept on my toes, and paying very close attention. I did dream about him years before meeting him, but i didnt put the pieces together until we met haha IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 21, 2015 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
Ahhh, thank you Auby thats what i suspected, a possible abusive relationship in the past, and us being involved in spiritual practices or schools together. I had to keep digging bc there were so many abusive in-your-face aspects between us i needed to know whats up. Like his Nessus squares my Venus, his Dejanira is right on my Asc, his Chiron is very close to my MC and conjunct my SN, his Saturn as i mentioned above is with my NN/Karma both being veryy close to my IC. So, Im being kept on my toes, and paying very close attention. I did dream about him years before meeting him, but i didnt put the pieces together until we met haha
Definitely. Funny you mention NESSUS square VENUS, as we have that as well. How long before did you dream of him? There are aspects for that, too.  'There's astrology for that!' Now I want that shirt. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 21, 2015 09:54 PM
Ummmm, like a couple years. ive dreamt about a number of people and then i meet them a few months to a year later.IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted February 21, 2015 10:41 PM
I'm inclined to disagree here. The asteroids are too conflicting with each other, sending mixed messages, and seems like over-reaching. If anything, it points to him being the one victimized by you, especially in the future. You are the one giving his CHIRON harsh aspects, and it seems to be in your life path (MC) to give him a painful lesson (SATURN-NN). That sound almost vindictive to me.If you are feeling like you're uncomfortable or uneasy, or have that niggling sense that something is wrong, that is the SATURN-NN aspect coming into play (as well as the SATURN-MOON to a lesser extent) in concert with the strong psychic indicators (MERCURY-URANUS-NEPTUNE). I would not pressure his Libra MOON too much, as he feels thinks very strongly (JUPITER in natal conjunction). Either way, I still do not think you had a tragic past, just a victim of circumstance. Most karma is not related to abuse, even though it appears to be a common thread in a lot of karmic studies. This has always sat ill with me. /soapbox IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 21, 2015 11:35 PM
The only thing I saw which seemed indicative of a previous abusive relationship, likely a marriage, was MARS/DEJA=DSC. It's her MARS/DEJA, which is why it seemed she was victimised in that particular 'iteration' (or series of them, depending).IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 22, 2015 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
I would not pressure his Libra MOON too much, as he feels thinks very strongly (JUPITER in natal conjunction).
Someone's on their iPhone.  IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted February 22, 2015 01:12 AM
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"There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane Allman IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 22, 2015 01:33 AM
Its his Saturn on my NN, so naturally it being the NN it feels uncomfortable. I actually feel very loving and affectionate toward him and want to be close, but he seems very emotional, gets impatient/frustrated easily, very flirty when he's not dating someone, and i worry that it may not entirely be the same for him like he's so caught up in his charm and the attention (Moon in Libra) idk how this would go. Mutual attraction is there, physical definitely, emotional im cool with it, idk if he would take me seriously as a partner. he's still new so i guess i'll figure it out ive had an abusive childhood, very harsh relationship with my dad especially. i even compared our birthdays and remember his Saturn exactly on my Asc, and his Mars on my IC. I cant even begin to tell u what his temper was like and i was so afraid/cautious/resentful it felt like i had a wet blanket on me all the time. this wasnt a man that would protect me, no emotional warmth/sympathy from him ever, and he past away some years ago. and i took care of him when he was bed-ridden. didnt feel anger then, just sadness/confusion. i do have a very painful void, so this makes finding a partner very important, but im very selective (possibly Vesta haha) and would try for dear goodness not to add on more heartbreak, ive had plenty so far besides my dad. im sure ive had my share of being a villian in the past, but i can say as of now i have no interest in hurting anyone or dominating them just for the sake of it. i just want a real bond bc i really didnt have it yet. ive met a medium before, and i knew this on a gut level, but this isnt the first time i went without a father-figure or proper male relationships. i still carry abandonment issues from that. ive been left for dead before and that i still remember. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted February 22, 2015 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Someone's on their iPhone.
Freudian slip? Feeling thinks. Very Libra MOON. Otherwise, I'm always on my phone. Haven't been on my laptop in at least a month. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted February 22, 2015 02:49 AM
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i can say as of now i have no interest in hurting anyone or dominating them just for the sake of it
Exactly, hence my reservation about saying NESSUS-DEJANIRA is relative, here. You've got your NN technically in the 3H, but close enough to the IC to be conjunct. I'm not surprised you have parent issues to sort through. I think his SATURN there is a positive thing for you both. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 22, 2015 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Freudian slip? Feeling thinks. Very Libra MOON.Otherwise, I'm always on my phone. Haven't been on my laptop in at least a month.
I agree it oddly 'worked', but took me a second to realise, oh -- that's what's up. Yeah, I bebop between both myself. Lately, late at night, it's my phone. More laptop during the day. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted February 22, 2015 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I agree it oddly 'worked', but took me a second to realise, oh -- that's what's up. Yeah, I bebop between both myself. Lately, late at night, it's my phone. More laptop during the day.
Well, mine gave me a hardware warning in Jan, so I can't use it until I have the time to back everything up (HAH, time? Yea right), and transfer everything to an external hard drive. I have to avoid using it until that point, lest I risk it completely going completely dead and losing everything. I already have a lot backed up on my external drive to begin with - mainly music and videos - but none of the things like my writing, spreadsheets, or other files. So yea. Nothing but phone, right now. I miss my laptop terribly. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted February 22, 2015 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Well, mine gave me a hardware warning in Jan, so I can't use it until I have the time to back everything up (HAH, time? Yea right), and transfer everything to an external hard drive. I have to avoid using it until that point, lest I risk it completely going completely dead and losing everything. I already have a lot backed up on my external drive to begin with - mainly music and videos - but none of the things like my writing, spreadsheets, or other files.So yea. Nothing but phone, right now. I miss my laptop terribly.
Ugh. I hear you. I got hit with something similar in November. The night before I had a dream I was backing up my laptop. Luckily enough, I know to trust these things. IP: Logged |
Fionapineapple
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posted February 23, 2015 09:59 PM
ok. I have Angel conjunct my SN too so i didnt read into his Chiron as causing pain or me hurting him there i figured that would at least go positive..hopefully. lolsorry for last minute additions there were a lot of asteroids i couldnt fit in But thank u Blind Writer and Auby for this and oh my if you saw some of the people ive come into contact with haha and its a big deal bc Blind Writer had my Chiron/Neptune opposition correct my creative energy gets so drained but i also have Aura conjunct my Mercury and i tend pick up a lot of things from other people IP: Logged | |
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