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Ceridwen
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posted February 22, 2015 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While i was playing around with Solar fire today, I thought about just displaying quintiles and biquintiles (and conj and opposition), as I had noticed - vaguely -that there are some quintiles and biquintiles in our synastry.
However I did start with the Davison chart for a reason I donīt even kknow.

And that is how it looks.

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I wonder what it means though. lol

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Aubyanne
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posted February 22, 2015 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:: crying :: I miss my Solar Fire!

Sorry. Just had to wail. Oh, why won't Astrolabe make a Mac version already? For nearly 20 years, I used that programme!

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posted February 22, 2015 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do love quintiles, though. Very creative and driven.

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posted February 22, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny enough my parents (and Paul Newman and his wife) have a similiar pattern in their Davison.

my parents

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the Newmans
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posted February 23, 2015 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see that triangle as extremely creative on an intellectual level due to Mercury Uranus (the focal planets) and their placement and rulership. Out-of-the-box romance or creativity if combined with the trapezoid.

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posted February 23, 2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks you two.

I find it interesting how it is interconnected.

The trapezoid contains of course two Golden Yods.

1) Moon - Mars - Neptune
2) Ceres - Neptune - Mars

The Apex planet of one of those is Mars, which is opposed to Uranus, which itself is at one corner of the quintile triangle.

The Apex planet of the other one is Neptune, opposed to the Mercry-Jupiter-Lilith-conjunction in 5th house, which is at the other corner of the quintile triangle (of Uranus - Mercury/Lilith/Jupiter - Vertex/Isis/Osiris).

Well there is a discussion if we can evedn count calculated points at parts of an aspect figure. Frank Clifford for example states that he counts them, but only ONE as angle of an aspect figure.

My own stance as of now (definitely prone to be modified again) is that I hesitatingly consider them, but view them as an inactive/ dormant factor, which in turns will become like a dynamo of energy if a transiting or progressed or directed planet will activate it. Sort of giving the ignition spark.

That is why I counted it in this instance as the solar arc directed Moon of the Davison is at 25 Leo this year I think.

For all the difficulties with this Davison chart (nope, not an easy one by any means I know that, I am quite fond of it. lol

And the challenges are quite a few!

unaspected Sun in 6th house might be the most difficult feature of it.

I know the Moon is unaspected as well, but it is still different, as it is in domicile in Cancer plus angular in the 7th house.

However, Sun and Moon are not completely unaspected (Moon being part of a quintile pattern, Sun involved in an 8th harmonic pattern with Saturn and Venus - still not an easy one I know. lol)

they are also focal planets of certain midpoint pictures

Sun=Venus/Saturn
(8th harmonic pattern)


Moon=Sun/Saturn

And obviously Moon is a skipped step, with the square to the nodal axis.
with both rulers of the Nodes being conjunct.


Apart from that

Sun p DESC
Moon p IC
Moon p Saturn (rulers of the horizon)

Nevertheless, interestingly SAPPHO is conjunct the DESC (and parallel Moon)

CIRCE conjunct Sun by 2 degrees

APOLLO conjunct Sun exact

ORPHEUS trine Moon with no orb at all
EURYDIKE conjunct Moon with 3 minutes of orb (meaning of course there is an exact trine of these two asteroids)


There is of course a quite exhausting and difficult tug here of the T-square consisting of the Venus-Mars-conjunction to Uranus and Saturn. Talk about being pulled in VERY different directions!

Interestingly there are three planets here, which are in domicile. Moon in Cancer in 7th house; Venus in Taurus in 3rd house and Mercury in Gemini in 5th house.


Nevertheless in this very puzzling picture the Davison paints here, the quintile pattern almost seems like a breath of relief. I suppose a lot of creativity is needed to balance out all the very different factors.

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posted February 23, 2015 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I find the Davison here a little puzzling I was checking the Draconic Davison to the tropical Davison (sort of illuminating the underground-scenario or maybe even purpose).


Dr Moon on 28 Sagittarius opposes Sun by 1 degree
(and conjuncts HIS Moon-MC on 28 SAg and Sun on 27 Sag and his Sun/Moon-mp on 27 Sag as well)


Dr Saturn on 21 Cap opposes Moon by 1 degree as well
(conjunct MY Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp exactly)

Dr Juno on 23 Aries conjunct SN by 1 degree
(opposing his Pluto and a bunch of Draconic planets, including being exact conjunct his Dr DESC and my Dr Venus)


Dr Venus on 19 Libra conjunct NN by 2 degrees (on his Pluto)

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When we first met:

Tr Jupiter 22°05 Capricorn
Tr Juno 26°27 Sagittarius

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posted February 23, 2015 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just so very interesting how Mercury Uranus gathering the energy of the two GY are connected with the vertex axis. I wonder what that means, considering this is a Davison: it looks like a strong mental event lol whatever that means, I wonder if this is not a psychic connection or major event in this respect. Maybe traveling or astral traveling too.

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posted February 23, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basically something moving rather fast from 10 Taurus to 14 Sag should trigger this structure.

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posted February 23, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Davison is not just eventoriented. I believe this thought was just being brought into the world so astrologers could find a way to differentiate composite and Davison and use both. But it is not necessarily that cut and dry.

Though just for the sake of not wanting to debate about this, let`s say it is just eventoriented.

Well astral travel makes sense I suppose, or at least dreaming and these things.

Funny though how in the progressed composite we have a strong Mercury-Uranus-vibe at the moment, too.


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posted February 23, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the progressed composite

As you can see the triggering progressed MOon does not only activate the progressed composite configuration, but it also falls very close to the Davison stellium of Mercury-Lilith-Jupiter.


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posted February 23, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Basically something moving rather fast from 10 Taurus to 14 Sag should trigger this structure.


Funny, on 12th june the pr Davison Moon will be on 14°09 Sagittarius.

(I coincidentally just used that date, cause there will be a concert on that day. lol )


Nothing on 10 Taurus though

Except the transiting Moon will be on 10 Taurus the morning after the concert.


solar arc Uranus will be on 14°14 Sag and solar arc Mars on 15°39 Gemini then, so it falls onto a very sensitive spot right there.


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