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Lioness
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posted March 07, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have netflux, I recommend this movie.

It got kinda bad reviews, but I feel it's worth watching, plus there is a hidden message in the movie.

Please if you watch it, please come back and discuss.

What's it about...
People have timer implants on their wrist, it's a timer count down, to the day they meet their soulmate. Once the found ay is complete, and you reach that day, The timer zero outs at midnight, which means you will meet your SM with in the next 24hiurs.

Once both people look directly at each other, both persons timer sounds an alarm, and now they both know they have meet their soulmate.

There's a glitche to it though, both people must have the timer implant. If only one person has the implant, then their timer will be blank. At any time, this other person gets a timer, then the blank timer will then be activated. then both will have the same count down.

There are 3 different stories of timers
A woman with a blank timer
A woman with over 5k days count day
A young person, with a very short timer.

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Aubyanne
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posted March 07, 2015 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw it awhile ago.

Not to spoil anything, but I really didn't appreciate the ending. Granted, I'm a Twin Flame who's chosen not to be with my Twin, but, I'm hoping that's not biasing my take on the film. Otherwise, I enjoyed the movie.

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posted March 07, 2015 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree movie wise, the ending wasn't all that great, but real life wise, it showed how awkward and devastating it can be by knowing.. How if you didn't know, what would be different.

Also that step, of letting nature takes it's course, is in a sense skipped.

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posted March 08, 2015 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that movie, but I haven't seen it yet, I just read the summary. I know it's not nice to talk about a movie without seeing it, but for some movies, the story plot is enough for me to discuss certain concepts. But I do know in this movie soulmate is actually similar to the TF concept, namely the one and only, not just someone from your soul group.

My theory about encountering your twin soul/soulmate is that it is always accompanied by a mutual acknowledgment of the fact that there is a soulmate for you and that this person is this soulmate. Becoming aware of the theoretical existence of the soulmate happens before you meet the actual person or meeting them simply triggers this awareness, immediately or shortly after. Sometimes people become aware of TF existence with a "fake", who unknowingly plays the role of an "angel" opening you up to the concept. But when it actually happens to meet them, mutual awareness is perhaps the strongest sign; people who have never believed in soulmates suddenly do, in the presence of their twin soul; if you think about it, our life is about becoming aware of things, since they are always with us but the shift happens with awareness, this is when you step into another dimension of your life, an evolutionary step. This is my experience with living couples who have gone through this, historical examples and what I understood from studying the concept, and my own personal experiences. And this is where I have a problem with TF advocates supporting the "runner" concept or encouraging people to believe it is possible to meet your TF and NOT be with them. Totally wrong and impossible. Also, unavoidable, as the movie seems to show in the end. Meeting your soulmate is in fact, a return to paradise or finding one's personal paradise: aside from many other things such as experiencing true love, this paradise also means experiencing true belonging for the first time, since traveling through many lives in our unconscious search for our soulmate is accompanied by a sort of loneliness and longing only they can fill, and we perfectly become aware of that only when we are reunited.

This is the myth and it is not the first time to notice the power and truth of the myth it is indeed reflected in real life stories.

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Aubyanne
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posted March 08, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, and disagree, Lee.

I think the ultimate consequence of meeting one's Twin is the realisation that you don't need them on a human level. The movie instead seems to convey the concept that the happily-ever-after monogamous faerie-tale coupling. It's ONLY about that in a dualistic environment, and there's SO much more than that to the multiverse.

I've also recently (within the past 2 years) stumbled into the Guardian theory, as you know, which could help to explain why some will meet their Twin who isn't yet sufficiently evolved. A relationship may still be possible, even if it isn't romantic. From it, wonderful things can be realised all the same: art, philanthropy, mutual education and edification, and even spiritual growth. So what if you don't 'end up together' ? Isn't that an extremely limiting concept anyhow?

Meanwhile, the Guardian Soul may be the 'second chance' opportunity for a Twin Flame relationship; I suspect the initial soul must be properly evolved in order to begin the relationship. It may even be more of a 'lotto'; I suspect that souls vibrating at the same frequency are equally (or nearly so) capable of fulfilling the 'requirements' of the Twin Flame relationship.

This has been my theoretical as well as personal and experiential understanding thus far.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like my type of movie ! I'd love to see it.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The movie is more centered on "the before" when you do meet, your eyes lock, and there is a second of internal acknowledgment between the 2 people. Then both timers send the alert, confirming yes this is your SM. The one.

If your going to watch it, I don't want to ruin it for you.
It's more about before your timer goes off.

What if your timer shows 20 years
What do you do? Be alone? Enter a relationship with some who's timer is 10 years, and live out the days until the relationship ends. Since this person isn't the real one, do you go for it any ways..

What if you fall in love with someone, who has no timer, you never get that aknowledment.

If the movie, this is a small part, not any main
Characters, so I will spoil it.

There is an older couple say 50/60
His timer is still doing the count down, she had her timer removed " cuz he wasn't her one but fudge It I love him"


The movie is more concentrated on
It's possible to know the exact date, you will meet your SM, but what do you do before that date!

Is really knowing the date a good thing, do you miss out on other life experiences from knowing.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In that sense, Lioness, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

When iQ told me, now, essentially, a year ago, that Fate was my Twin, the whole spectrum of emotions was my playground; it was something I knew, yet something I dreaded, something I couldn't believe, something I desperately didn't want to be true, and something, I knew, I could never entirely escape. Which I hated even more.

I honestly wish our society wasn't so bloody hung up on Twin Flames. Ironically, it's not helping us fulfill the ultimate mission here.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the movie showed, that if you spend your time just searching and waiting, your truly missing out on other life experiences.

It also shows what happens if your way to young to entire into that relationship. You already have that confirmation, this is the one, before you even say hi to each other.
The whole becoming friends, and bonding naturally and letting love build naturally over time, now feels like pressure and extremly awkward.
Even though this is the person, they will end up with, the knowing before that natural process has happen, makes it awkward, and makes the 2 kids feel pressured.

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posted March 08, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes, the movie showed, that if you spend your time just searching and waiting, your truly missing out on other life experiences.

It also shows what happens if your way to young to entire into that relationship. You already have that confirmation, this is the one, before you even say hi to each other.
The whole becoming friends, and bonding naturally and letting love build naturally over time, now feels like pressure and extremly awkward.
Even though this is the person, they will end up with, the knowing before that natural process has happen, makes it awkward, and makes the 2 kids feel pressured.


Exactly!

Funny enough, we ended up exploring a lot of that naturally in the series we created (which evolved from the collaborative online story several years before). The sheer awkwardness of two individuals who, actually, have been in each other's lives, but in a professional capacity for years, discover they're Twin Flames. It's not like it's a complete shock to anyone, but he's sardonic and incapable of genuine love (of another person) and commitment, that she gave up that a long time ago. Plus, he's a billionaire, so, there's that. (The 'Iron Man' film came out a few years later, which we both had to laugh about, given the similarity in personality. 'Newsroom' seems like our actual characters, rather than just their dynamics. Pretty funny.)

It was wild that he started developing a romantic storyline for our two characters, given the fact he had no idea they were 'supposed to end up together' and his is a total loner (and way too busy besides). But it ended up being charming, really, the awkwardness. Until they get the knowledge of their being Twins. To avoid having to figure out a romantic relationship, or their feelings for each other, they instead focus on work -- which quickly becomes saving the world.

Hmmmm ... THAT's familiar. Minus the 'saving the world' bit, that is.

All in all, it's a good film. I don't appreciate the inevitability factor, however. But then I'm becoming more and more convinced that traditional Twin Flame theory is incorrect, and we shouldn't try to be so dualistic anyway.

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posted March 08, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, I'm not convinced of the TF theory, SM with many people yes, but TF no.

I'm more let nature take it's course, and let love /bonding build as it's suppose to be.

When you meet a special "relationship" you will know it, in your head, you don't need confirmation. Let nature take its course..

If the TF theory is real, then I agree both people would feel it, it wouldn't be one sided. Although there may be a separation period, it wouldn't be long, as both people would feel the loss, and want to return.

I also think giving the labels, (even though we have all done it) is more damaging than good.

I what I mean is
If someone feels someone els is ther TF/SM and that person leaves, that person waits for their return, and misses out on life. What if that person never returns, you ended up spending years wasting your life waiting.

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posted March 09, 2015 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw it and enjoyed it.

The part right before the end of this movie was heartbreaking. In a realistic type of way I get why the movie ended the way it did, and why the other guy was ultimately going to be what's best for her. But darn I liked Mikey better, he was so cute. Throughout the movie all we see is Uma and Mikey interacting. So that's what you get attached to. And part of you thinks there must be a solution to the Timer issue. Especially when his Timer turns out to be irrelevant, and when her's zero's out, you think/hope maybe when they see each other after that they'll time out together...

I quite liked her premonition dream with the boiling egg and the guy with the mask telling her he's her one. There were echos of the future in it for sure. A goodbye and a hello foretold.

Overall, I liked the mystical Sci Fi element to the movie, and the quirkiness of it. The ending makes sense in a philosophical/realistic way. It's not a crazy love overcomes all odds type of film. It's an ending that shows the kind of thing that hurts like hell when it happens, but then you look back years later and go 'it was for the best'. The theme seemed to be that even if you do have a 'one', it's possible to love other people, make mistakes, and experience heartbreak before you get there. This is true for some people and not for others.

Now I wish they'd make a sequel about Mikey, and how he finally meets his one.

Would I get a Timer? Yes. I only want to get married once and if I truly were honest I don't see much value in experiencing many guys before meeting my life partner. Already know what I want thanks.

The only reason I think this movie has bad reviews is because the ending doesn't show a the typical romantic 'happy ending' that most viewers hope for. To me this movie shows what I'd describe as a 'Vertex' experience. A short period in someone's life where life-changing events occur, and we get what we didn't expect. Another theme to the movie is that fate doesn't always playout as straightforwardly as we'd hope. Sometimes there are curve balls. The movie is an nice fantasy escape through the beginning, and middle. But then at the end it hits you with a dose of realism that kinda hurts. That's a let down to some people.

By the end of the film most of our questions are answered though. I like that part about it. From the movie we can see that timers work. Even Mikey admits this, he just questions the point of knowing first. So by the end of the movie we know where Uma is eventually headed once she's able to accept it emotionally. At the end it's like even though she mentally knows what's going to happen, her heart isn't here yet.

I've seen the movie a couple of times an I like it for the most part. The first time I saw the ending it was hard to take. Now, I 'get it' even if part of me is still not completely satisfied with it.

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posted March 09, 2015 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I 'got' the ending. I just didn't find it personally fulfilling. DAMNED awkward, when you know, and can really only go in the opposite direction.

Ultimately, you'd rather NOT know, and be satisfied with wondering. (In my opinion.) Knowing hasn't done me much good, outside of oddly encouraging me to choose to NOT be with my Twin. I find that terribly ironic. But, alas, that may've simply been the whole point.

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posted March 09, 2015 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lotis

What if you get your timer around the age of 20, but it doesn't zero out until your 60?
Would you think differently about another relationship?

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posted March 10, 2015 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
@lotis

What if you get your timer around the age of 20, but it doesn't zero out until your 60?
Would you think differently about another relationship?


To me the answer to this question depends on how much you value having children. A prognosis like this would be heartbreaking for any women. I’m naturally the kind of person who values monogamy and long term committed relationships, so I think I’d take it pretty hard. Also, if I was scheduled not to met my ‘true love’ until I was 60 I hardly think it would be crazy passionate type of ‘true love’ at that age. More likely it’d be an amazing intellectual and affectionate connection. Adoring each other for personality and intellect would be much more a priority then passion.

As long as I was scheduled to meet the guy sometime before menopause (even if it was a close call) I honestly think I’d wait it out till I met him. After all most, people would prefer to have children with the one person they stay with for life in an ideal world. It doesn’t work out that way for everyone but when people are young and romantic that’s what they dream about.

However 60 is long past childrearing age. So once menopause started to loom the practical side of me might try to find a guy in the same boat as myself… Say someone whose timer wouldn’t zero out till he was 62 or something, and then we could raise a family together while we were still young. There’d be plenty of time to fully raise our children together because how long it takes for the timers to zero out. And the guy I’d pick would have to be someone I really like and am attracted to even if he wasn’t someone I was madly in love with.

So basically my answer is that if I wanted children I still try to find a solid partner to raise them with me.

Fortunately I don't have to worry about any of that in reality!! Thank goodness.

I still think I'd want to know rather then not know. What if I spent my whole youth expecting something great to happen, and then it never ever did. And I didn't understand why. I might miss that appropriate opportunity to have kids because I was holding out for something amazing that wasn't scheduled to happen till I was 60.

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posted March 10, 2015 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I somehow knew I hadn't come here to biologically produce children of my own, but 'find my child' in this lifeline, and build my family post hoc. And, at age 28, just as my Saturn Return began, that's exactly what I ended up doing.

My priority was never to marry and have a family; it was always to create and do great works. I wanted to devote my life to learning, helping, and growing. Being a wife and mother seemed very counterproductive to my spiritual goals (which I've had since very young).

But when I met her, I knew. We bonded so quickly, and I realised very suddenly that I needed to make myself ready, as I needed to be her stepmother -- which meant preparing to marry my husband and attempt to learn the whole 'wife thing'. Heh. It remains a work-in-progress.

I envy women (to some extent) who can romantically idealise their future; who long for nothing more than to devote themselves to being a wife and mother. I seem to be lacking that DNA strand. Heh. I admit, I used to be rather disdainful of such 'pedestrian' pursuits as marriage and family. But I respect them now. I simply have come to understand it isn't how I'm wired; but bless those who are, as they keep the world goin' round.

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posted March 10, 2015 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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... it was always to create and do great works. I wanted to devote my life to learning, helping, and growing. ...

YES. A thousand times YES.

I've always wanted to do that too. When I was very young, my biggest motivation was to discover new things, great things, and help the world by doing so, because I felt so capable of doing that type of work. I was particularly interested in the maths and science field, and I remember asking my Dad once, when I was three, 'where people had to go to present something they'd found out'.

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posted March 10, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting concept. So literally everyone in that movie meets their romantic soulmate sooner or later and almost everyone is so obsessed with having a relationship with one that they would throw everything away for a stranger who's their soulmate according to a timer? It's not even like they automatically fall in love and there's a guarantee that they'll live happily ever after, right? I wouldn't like to belong to that world. I'd call it love anti-utopia. Being with a soulmate is a very nice idea but in the end what would truly matter to me is whether we have the connection I want, here and now. If it's a random soul, I don't mind. I don't require a soulmate, a weirdmate is more than enough. I'm not in rush to pair up, I'm not interested in pursuing marriage and motherhood but timers can kiss my ass.

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posted March 10, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Being with a soulmate is a very nice idea but in the end what would truly matter to me is whether we have the connection I want, here and now.


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