posted March 03, 2015 04:17 PM            

moving to Personal Readings

posted March 08, 2015 08:53 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

posted March 08, 2015 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does it matter why? he is just into you!
Apart from the important angle connection, you are completing a major pattern for him.

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I like how you think, Leeloo.

Creating a grand trine through synastry out of a grand cross must feel wonderful.

posted March 08, 2015 10:47 AM            

Oh well. Coming back to your synastry, your 5th, 7th and 8th house rulers are making interesting aspects, too. They are generational and I suppose they would carry less weight as you're not born too far apart, but still, they're worth noting -- his Neptune and Jupiter (8th and 5th rulers) are making an aspect to your Neptune, and your Uranus (7th ruler) is conjunct his Sun (and Uranus). I would expect the Uranus person to feel something, but as it's an angle ruler, perhaps it also works like an angle rather than a planet (i.e. the planet person and not the angle/angle ruler person, like for Mars/DSC earlier, feels it).

Wishing you both a pleasant Uranus opposition !

posted March 08, 2015 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014 :
Does it matter why? he is just into you!

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posted March 08, 2015 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does it matter why? he is just into you!
Apart from the important angle connection, you are completing a major pattern for him.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by mztiny:
Thank you all!! I find it interesting though...sadly I don't' hardly feel anything for this guy. I feel bad about it, he is so crazy for me.Ugh..just my luck, the one that LOVES me i don't feel anything

Loolee2014-Can you explain "completing a major pattern for me?"

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His planets don't seem to be aspecting your Venus much, just one trine between Venuses, nor the Moon/Mars opposition on your angles, outside of the square with his Lilith.

posted March 08, 2015 01:31 PM            

it`s of course just one thing I singled out, but seriously, if I see such emptiness associated with the 5th house AND its ruler, it doesn`t feel hopeful to me.

your 7th house ruler is conjunct his Uranus, and while Uranus can amp things up a lot, there is just nothinbg - personal- to be amped up

Your 8th house ruler conjuncts his 5th house ruler, and that often happens in very passionate affairs - however, one caveat, there MUST be some other strong intense romantic or sexual personal aspect otherwise, especially for the 8th house ruler person. it is opposing his Saturn.
Sounds karmic to me, in terms of learning experience, and while this might be transformative for you, you might be transformed through him being so enthralled with you and attracted to you while you do not feel anything in return (even that experience can be deeply felt - well I know that it was for me, I felt really guilty for not being able to reciprocrate some feelings)

well with Saturn opposing his 5th house natally, there seems to be a lot of pressure put onto the house of expressing love, maybe he even subconsciously expects being rejected, and you are just delivering and fulfilling his expectations.

Of course there are more positive manifestations, too, with Saturn opposing 5th house ruler, a committed relationship, stability, sincerity etc etc.
But or that he really should look for someone with whom he shares some more personal planetary contacts.

posted March 08, 2015 01:33 PM            

Have you tried adding other asteroids ? I'd love to see the links with these.

posted March 08, 2015 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Mztiny,

Have you tried adding other asteroids ? I'd love to see the links with these.

447,1221,1585,6583,3811,390,433,16,42,1923

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posted March 08, 2015 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's my favourite army, right there.

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posted March 08, 2015 03:06 PM            

The quinkunx, it is a highly karmic aspect of course, but at the same time it also connects positions with each other that have just nothing in common. No comprendre. And yet since there is an aspect, they HAVE to take notice of each other, they will have to find a way to deal with that basic incompatibility or let`s say personal different approaches to certain things.
And no I am NOT saying that just because one synastry has one quinkunx the people are incompatible (I know that you are aware of the need to look at the whole picure, but just wanted to emphasize this as too often people read these things in too black-white ways ).

Nevertheless there is no common ground with a quinkunx (which of course means it could be a superb learning experience when people are open to it, but that is mostly true for personal planets in quinkunx).
The Yod is a tad different, though, as it tends to glue people together, maybe through the symmetry and midpoints.

A quinkunx to Saturn does not seem too ideal either. Quinkunxes often give a feeling of insecurity, Saturn sometimes does so too (hence the need to keep control, to not let the feelings of insecurit and of being "not enough/ not sufficient" get the upper hand and let other people see).

And then add to that a bit of a lack of personal interaspects anyway, especially to the luminaries and Venus and Mars, and the situation looks even less ideal.
(there ARE aspects I am aware of that, but it seems they are not enough, especially not from her side).

EDIT:
actualy I cannot see if planets are really unaspected here, as there is no mentioning of parallel and contraparallel.

Speaking strictly longitudinal.
no ptolemaic aspects within an orb of 5 degrees (maybe 3 degrees for sextile) is unaspected to me.

posted March 09, 2015 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Mztiny,

Have you tried adding other asteroids ? I'd love to see the links with these.

447,1221,1585,6583,3811,390,433,16,42,1923

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[IMG]http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/mztiny01/B%20amp%20T%20syn astry%20take%202_zpsaqcn4uqy.gif[/IMG]

posted March 09, 2015 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mztiny:
I can see his Sun conjunct my karma. Not sure what this means?!

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Think of it using the people-as-permanent-transits theory. You ever pay attention to the day tSUN hits your nKARMA? For me, it's ALWAYS a big day.

The SUN illuminates whatever asteroid it hits, bringing all issues, concepts, and matters it involves to the forefront. Naturally, the closer the orb, the more dramatic the 'visibility'.

In your case, it's KARMA. This man is a walking neon sign blinking 'KARMA!' and quite possibly is either here to collect or repay a debt. Now, you're close to having CHIRON as a skipped step, but it's out of orb of squaring your NODES. It still might've been making the aspect during your prenatal eclipse, however, meaning it would carry karmic weight.

As his ISIS is right on your CHIRON, that might signal something between the two of you. It takes more investigation.

Also, bear in mind that you're an OSIRIS-MOON, and he's got OSIRIS opposite MOON, conjunct the NNODE, meaning he needs to develop his OSIRIS, or 'divine masculine'. As this is part of your lunar nature, it's inherent. It's ISIS you're here to develop -- and, it's an ISIS-oriented wound you carry in these soul dynamics. Rather 'all things ISIS' can bring about that wound.

There's definitely some complicated stuff afoot here, as it's looking like OSIRIS might be a skipped step. I'm not sure the degrees here. Looks like it might be out of orb, even by a few degrees. OSIRIS being closer than MOON.

posted March 09, 2015 03:33 PM            

I mean, criminy. 5R is SATURN? Conjunct JUNO? What of my 5H is 'fun and casual' ? Answer: NOTHING! And, technically, it's SATURN conjunct ALMA (1º) conjunct JUNO (2º). So my 5H is nothing but soulful creative partnerships -- committed creative partnerships and artistic relationships. Which, more than likely have to be producing, or, at the very least, pragmatic (SATURN).

... yaaay?

And yet, how much is the 5H (which only has KAALI, AMOR-ALICE, and VERTEX by the way) really involved in my relationships? ... Not a lot. HOWEVER, I have certainly found a higher-than-average number of CAP MOONS among my creative partners, and soul family. Total toss-up whether there'd be any romantic dynamics involved, though.

Sometimes the 5R is hit -- but rarely that hard.

The Twin hit it (4º) with his JUNO-ALMA, and a (2º) sextile from his MOON.
My Guardian's SUN squares it (6º); his JUPITER is sextile (5º) and his ASC is (3º) sextile as well. His own SATURN is even (8º) opposite -- as well as his CHIRON. (3º)

Oddly enough, my husband's PLUTO is 1º conjunct; and PLUTO is his 4R, so there's an IC involvement. I suppose the 5H/4H dynamics create that baseline sense of 'I love being around you'. No doubt, important for a marriage.

Kinda liking the Grand Air Trine of my SATURN with my Guardian's OSIRIS and REIKI, though. All 0º, too.

posted March 09, 2015 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW Auby, I am fascinated with reading your way of analyzing. Very interesting.
Makes me want to ask you to have a look at mine as well.

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You've taught me more than you know, Ceri. By expanding my understanding to encompass a greater holistic view, which I'd previously been hesitant to truly embrace, and tightening my orbs, I've come to pursue the innate, esoteric relationships between all of the relevant points in a chart, as well as using multiple systems.

It somehow makes sense to my convoluted brain.

posted March 09, 2015 03:56 PM            

For example, his 5th house starts at the end of Scorpio, and ends at the beginning of Capricorn. Does that make Jupiter a co-ruler of 5th house since all the sign is in it? And do aspects Jupiter makes, count as 5th house aspects?

posted March 09, 2015 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Thanks for your detailed explanation, Ceri. I've always been quite unsure of what's going on with my 5H, unless it's viewed almost purely creatively, or through the lens of creative partnerships.

I mean, criminy. 5R is [b]SATURN? Conjunct JUNO? What of my 5H is 'fun and casual' ? Answer: NOTHING! And, technically, it's SATURN conjunct ALMA (1º) conjunct JUNO (2º). So my 5H is nothing but soulful creative partnerships -- committed creative partnerships and artistic relationships. Which, more than likely have to be producing, or, at the very least, pragmatic (SATURN).

... yaaay?

And yet, how much is the 5H (which only has KAALI, AMOR-ALICE, and VERTEX by the way) really involved in my relationships? ... Not a lot. HOWEVER, I have certainly found a higher-than-average number of CAP MOONS among my creative partners, and soul family. Total toss-up whether there'd be any romantic dynamics involved, though.

Sometimes the 5R is hit -- but rarely that hard.

The Twin hit it (4º) with his JUNO-ALMA, and a (2º) sextile from his MOON.
My Guardian's SUN squares it (6º); his JUPITER is sextile (5º) and his ASC is (3º) sextile as well. His own SATURN is even (8º) opposite -- as well as his CHIRON. (3º)

Oddly enough, my husband's PLUTO is 1º conjunct; and PLUTO is his 4R, so there's an IC involvement. I suppose the 5H/4H dynamics create that baseline sense of 'I love being around you'. No doubt, important for a marriage.

Kinda liking the Grand Air Trine of my SATURN with my Guardian's OSIRIS and REIKI, though. All 0º, too.

My 5H is ... rather confused, it would seem.[/B]

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Ah my 5th house is no fun either. In taurus, with ruler in capricorn square Pluto on the MC. What is the fun in THAT?

so it`s all Venus-Saturn-Pluto. lol

Well it contains not even that many asteroids, the Eros/Psyche-mp falls there as well as part of marriage, ACTOR and LUCIFER if I remember rightly, all of them conjunct. Telephus, whatever that one means, on the cusp. Uranus opposing the cusp from 11th house actually.
But anyway, for me 5th house ruler involvement (not so much planets overlaying it though) is definitely a must for me to even feel a spark of attraction.

maybe it is cause it makes me Venus have this double function, as Venus as 5th house ruler, and both relating to relationships in the broadest sense.

Funny enough the tightest aspect in my natal is Juno trine Saturn btw. (not related to 5th house though).