posted March 14, 2015 09:07 AM            

You look at some of synastry which has all the hallmarks of promised relationship but nothing happnes. Then you look at synastry chart of Brad and Angelina which is full of hard aspects and they are together for many years. OK, B&A has some nice aspects like Venus/Sun conj. AC/DC but on the whole, the chart lacks harmonious aspects. If it they had strong scorpio energy, one could say they like an edgy relationship where they face challenges but they are not even scorpio!

posted March 14, 2015 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I believe it is all explained in this article: http://www.forrestastrology.com/resources/articles/relationships /38-love-handles-practical-synastry-in-action.

We are living in an era where personal growth is more important than stabilty at all costs. This isn't the year 1900. If the person doesn't challenge us to our very core, we are likely to feel that 'something is missing.' Hard aspects often promote sexual attraction. Soft aspects often promote a platonic feeling of liking the person but there being no 'spark.' I think lots of conjunctions are preferable to lots of sextiles and trines because at least it allows for some frisson with the malefic planets.

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posted March 14, 2015 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
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posted March 14, 2015 10:28 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
http://www.forrestastrology.com/resources/articles/relationships/ 38-love-handles-practical-synastry-in-action

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posted March 14, 2015 11:07 AM            

One of my newest friends has her Mars in Capricorn conjunct my Moon in Capricorn which squares my Mars in Aries.

If I didn't spot that in the synastry I definitely would of been less patient with some of her personality traits.

When her method of doing things rub me the wrong way I just tell myself every placement has positive and negative traits and I focus on the things I like about the Mars in Capricorn rather than the things that annoy me.

posted March 14, 2015 11:40 AM              

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Originally posted by Koho:
It's incredibly worth it.

One of my newest friends has her Mars in Capricorn conjunct my Moon in Capricorn which squares my Mars in Aries.

If I didn't spot that in the synastry I definitely would of been less patient with some of her personality traits.

When her method of doing things rub me the wrong way I just tell myself every placement has positive and negative traits and I focus on the things I like about the Mars in Capricorn rather than the things that annoy me.

And it was totally worth it. But we also have a very tight Venus sextile Venus aspect going on - almost exact.

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This was inspired. Astrology has also given me a self-awareness as well. I am the Saturn in my Sun-Saturn square with my mom and I realized I am often impatient and condescending with her, and sometimes now I catch myself thinking, "Don't be so Saturn" with her when I think she is being a bit childish. In addition, it's helped me to understand my pattern of attracting the wrong men (those whose moon signs square my own and who have hard Mars-Pluto aspects natally) that have been abusive towards me.

It's also allowed me to trust my instincts more. I met a man who it felt like I'd known for years when we just met, and when I looked up our synastry, there were indeed karmic indicators all over the place.

posted March 14, 2015 02:42 PM            

B&A synastry chart.

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posted March 14, 2015 05:59 PM            

The thing is hard aspects are good in some respects because they motivate and challenge us to take action and do things. If we have hard aspects with someone we get stuff done when we’re around them.

So a bunch is hard aspects in the synastry does not indicate at all that the relationship will fail. Although too many of them can be exhausting… Different people have different tolerance levels for hard aspects. Some people thrive on them in synastry, others find them too stressful. I don’t know why the OP thinks that Scorpio would like them more then other signs? Actually what usually determines a tolerance for hard aspect is the presence of them in your own chart. If you have a couple of squares and opps yourself that energy can feel more ‘natural’ to you. Some people actually seem to prefer hard aspects.

Others gravitate more towards soft aspects. Soft aspects are good because the give us stability, and help everything to run smoothly. It’s not true that only hard aspects give attraction, while soft aspects do not. Soft aspects can totally give attraction for certain types of people with certain natal charts. People with a lot of soft aspects are often very attracted to soft aspect synastry. I have Venus in Sag and my 7th house ruler in Sag. I’m know I’m totally attracted to soft aspects and conjunctions to my Mercury and Venus (especially from Aries which is my 5th house). I’m serious. I LOVE that type of trine. But that’s because of my own unique natal chart.

Most people have a mixture of hard and soft aspects in their chart though. So most people are attracted to synastry that has a mixture of hard and soft aspects. Also, sometimes primarily hard aspect people need a soft or two to calm them down, and ease up their intensity. They might not be able to handle a synastry loaded with many soft aspects, but a few of them would actually help them. The same is true with soft aspect people. A hard aspect or two could actually give them a good kick in the butt and get them moving and making changes. But a primarily soft aspect person usually can’t handle a synastry with too many hard aspects. Our preference for being attracted to hard aspects vs. soft aspects is a very individual thing, and we all have our ‘ratio’ which suits us.

No aspects at all is a lot WORSE then a bunch of hard aspects.

About Angelina and Brad… They do have her Sun conjunct his Dsc, while her Moon and Mars trine his Asc. She has a Moon/Mars conjunction sextile her Sun natally, and Brad’s Sag Asc and Aries Jupiter aspect her Aries Moon/Mars and Gemini Sun. So he has his ruling planet Jupiter conjunct her Mars/Moon in Aries, which is then sextiled by her Gemini Sun. To top it all off, her Neptune opposes her Sun in Gemini, and so it conjuncts his Asc, and trines his Jupiter. This ring of aspects they have is basically a ring of conjunctions and soft aspects. It gives them stability.

There’s another ring of aspects in their synastry which gives them intensity. His Mars in Cap squares her Moon/Mars in Aries. His Virgo Uranus squares her Sun in Gemini and Neptune opposition. In her natal chart she has Venus square Uranus, and her 7th house ruler Saturn square Jupiter… She doesn’t mind a few hard aspects even with her Sun/Moon/Mars sextile. Brad Pitt has Mars square Juptier and Uranus square his Asc/Dsc Axis. He can handle a bit of hardness in his synastry as well even though he has soft aspects as well… Like Mars trine Uranus and Mercury sextile Neptune.

Anyway, the point is they both have hard and soft aspects in their natal chart and their synastry has both hard and soft aspect in it as well. This is plain to see if you observe the details of their synastry.

Here are their charts.

Angelina Jolie

Brad Pitt

posted March 14, 2015 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
It's incredibly worth it.

One of my newest friends has her Mars in Capricorn conjunct my Moon in Capricorn which squares my Mars in Aries.

If I didn't spot that in the synastry I definitely would of been less patient with some of her personality traits.

When her method of doing things rub me the wrong way I just tell myself every placement has positive and negative traits and I focus on the things I like about the Mars in Capricorn rather than the things that annoy me.

And it was totally worth it. But we also have a very tight Venus sextile Venus aspect going on - almost exact.

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That's a great attitude to have. I've had a similar reaction with someone's Moon on my Mars.

I also have Venus sextile Venus with my oldest and closest friend.

posted March 14, 2015 08:15 PM              

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Also both Brad and Angie have Mars-moon vonjunct though it's wide for him. This make him more active than a normal cap moon. Angie has saturn square her Mars and moon so she's used to being criticized

As an aries moon, I'd say that mature cap moon and aries moon are much more compatible than astrology traditionally indicate because Aries and Cap are both independent and doing their own thing while Cap won't be so reactive to Aries moon (like a Scorp moon would) that the relationship turns explosive. The thing about aries moon is if you acknowledge and do not react, aries moon will be persuaded to stop provoking. That's wjat cap moon will learn to do.

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I agree with the 'if you learn not to react' line. I am in the process of trying to teach someone how to treat me. I am an aries moon too. I really have learned alot about myself through astrology since joining this site, it has been useful.

posted March 14, 2015 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Astrology is, always, true, in terms of what it says will happen imo

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posted March 15, 2015 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by AngaCrowley:
My husband and I have several, and we know a thing or two about power struggles.

The two main ones we have are his pluto conjunct my mars, and my pluto conjunct his saturn. The fact that he is an Aries and Im a Capricorn means that when those get fired up, neither can back down. It isnt all the time, of course, but when we fight, it's intense. Never violent like this can sometimes warn of, but it can certainly go on, and on. And on, lol. Being the pluto to his saturn, it's taught me a great deal about my own boundaries. I know well how to pick my battles in life, which I think is the lesson of this aspect. When I was younger I didnt let ANYTHING go. Headstrong to the max, Id stand off with anyone over anything. I have also learned how to not back down, when it truly matters. Before, when everything was a fight, it was in the air as to what Id fight to the death for and what I wouldnt; it was more about mood than conviction. Having actual conviction when you stand off makes all the difference, and I have learned that difference well. He was the same. His chart is dominated by mars and pluto, and mine is dominated by saturn and pluto. Both tough charts. We needed that dynamic, I think, otherwise we would have ran right over any 'weaker' partner. Its hard, but this is how we heal. we actually have chiron-venus (his) conjunct chiron (mine) in Taurus in 10th house, opp my venus in scorp -- which is an aspect I actually love.

We have some other lovely (but intense; they're all intense lol) aspects too, hence the attraction, love, marriage, and the mars-pluto does bring a certain intensity to our relationship that is hot. But that downside will ALWAYS be a part of our dynamic and I can definitely say that heck yes, you feel it.

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In another words, you need to be a match in terms of strength. I know it seems like an obvious things to say but her post gave me a clarity.

posted March 15, 2015 02:55 PM            

I look at it as a game of sorts..

Meeting new people is already exciting so adding a brand new natal, synastry, composite chart, etc to your list is almost like meeting a new person too. Even if we turn out to be not compatible, the observation and analysis I gained from comparing the person to their chart, our synastry was well worth the hassle.

The only aspect I would automatically label a "deal-breaker" would be harsh uranus aspects to personal planets or just uranian energy in general (air placements in personal planets) in any astrology chart despite me having a tonof uranian energy. The issue is, I'm also mostly plutonian and saturian so I need closeness and consistency above all else.

Every other aspect, in my opinion, should be taken with a grain of salt because I've seen aspects manifest in so many different ways besides the usual cookbook interpretations.. But that uranus has been a horrible experience for me every single time and it always plays out the same exact way. Sudden disruption and of the ruthless kind too. I would label it worst than Pluto. Much worst.

I don't believe that Astrology is the determining factor of a person's character or of the outcome of a relationship, but there's almost always something in a chart whether it be a progression aspect, transit, etc tha influences an individual, relationship, etc. It's just either we haven't found it when looking for a particular behavior or event to play out. There's almost always an aspect, planet placement, transit, etc that modifies or influences another aspect, planet placement, etc in your chart. When you can't find the answer in one aspect, it's always in anothee aspect in my opinion.

I believe Astrology is 99.99% accurate with a 1% error based off of environmental factors (upbringing, childhood, etc). There are so many different charts, aspects, asteroids, etc.