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Ceridwen
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posted March 24, 2015 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I was thinking of you, Leeloo, that you might be interested in DW`s.

I was finding these DW`s (not Mr Sag synastry for once ) andh is birthtime is unknown, so sadly no angles, and well pretty much no sure Moon-degrees
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Sun trine/square Mercury (5-0)

Venus trine/trine Saturn (3-1)

Mars trine/quinkunx Amor (0-0)

Jupiter conjunct/ conjunct Priapus (0-2)
Jupiter trine / opposite Valentine (1-1)

SAturn square / sextile NN (2-0)
Saturn opposite / trine Ceres (1-1)
Saturn square / conjunct Lust (0-0)

Neptune trine/quinkunx Chiron (0-1)
Neptune quinkunx/ sextile Eros (0-0)

Pluto opposite ( quinkunx Chiron (2-1)
Pluto quinkunx / opposite Juno (0-2)

SN conjunct Juno / Juno trine NN (0-1)

mean Lilith conjunct/ trine Cupido (0-1)

Pallas quinkunx / conjunct Eros (1-0)
Pallas conjunct/ conjunct Psyche (1-3)

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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 25, 2015 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Half of them are marital, the other half totally tantric, who's the lucky fellow? Nah, you don't have to tell me...but he's a lucky fellow indeed with the Jupiter Priapus Valentine....thingy, and those Pallas Chiron aspects - kundalini rising!

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posted March 25, 2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just been thinking of this, that I need to work on the list, including the complementary ones (for example his Sun sesisquares my Mars - 0°55- and my Moon semisquares his Mars - 0°02; while of course being minor aspect, it made me go: Hu???)

oh yes, he is just supposed "eyecandy", nothing more. But when i was checking the eyecandy synastry, I couldn`t help but stumble across all that Saturn. So much Saturn!

And the fact that his natal Karma-Destinn-conjunction is conjunct my own Karma in my 7th house exact, trine his Pluto and my Moon, hence it seems my Moon completes his Karma-Pluto for a GT, while his Pluto completes my Karma-Moon for a GT, the very same. Hu?
And very tight orbs at that, or I would not even mention it).

Oh yes, right, his sun opposes his Pluto (and sextiles my Moon and my Karma, so we are dealing with a Kite it seems.

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posted March 25, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 mutual GT completions with the same archetype?? wow that's huge. it could be just a very specific lesson about that though, if the rest is scattered.

I was wondering what you think about the 8th harmonic combo, would it be like little jolts, a connection always surprising, cyclic, making you do things with the person (a stimulus for acting, doing things together). I think you have your brother's example, maybe getting inspiration from how his synastry/composite is reflected in real life?

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posted March 25, 2015 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"2 mutual GT completions with the same archetype??"
Same GT actually, but we both have a single trine, and they kind of interlock.


That is how astro.com shows it
I found it interesting because of the quadrangular thingy right in the image.

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That is my own addition with the paint program to show some Grand trines. Granted the watery one might be a bit on the wide side with orbs, especially involving asteroids. However his Uranus on 20 Scorpio (on my Anteros on 19 Scorpio - not drawn in) definitely trines my ERos-Vertex on 21 Cancer, and I would allow the trine to Saturn on 17 Cancer as well. Where it gets maybe a little wide is with my Juno on 17 Pisces, 3 degree trine to Uranus might seem wide, however his own Ceres is on 18 Pisces, within 2 degerr orb to his Uranus.


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I was wondering what you think about the 8th harmonic combo, would it be like little jolts, a connection always surprising, cyclic, making you do things with the person (a stimulus for acting, doing things together)."
I donīt know. Still evaluating, but the 8th harmonic aspects keep cropping up (not just for me btw). And the lunar cycle is an 8th harmonic based cycle as well. So that is at least interesting.

Maybe it is like you stated.

" I think you have your brother's example, maybe getting inspiration from how his synastry/composite is reflected in real life?"
Yes, when they got together, they were just having an applying sesisquare of Moon and Sun in the composite. In fact they got together just before it came into orb, so pretty much on the 2 degree edge. But Moon is quickly moving, so the days after their official getting together it was in play.

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posted March 25, 2015 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I had a closer look at the symmetrical figure in the synastry chart I noticed.

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His birthtime is unknown, so his Moon could be wrong (I could imagine a Libra ASC for him though, but of course that is highly speculative and unscientific. )

his Uranus: 20°11 Scorpio
his Sun: 19°15 Aries
(his LUST: 16°19 Cancer)

my Saturn: 16°57 Cancer
(my EROS 20°59 Cancer)
(my Vertex 21°32 Cancer)
my Moon: 17°07 Aquarius
my Chiron: 20°02 Aries


So it connects his natal Sun-Uranus-quinkunx and my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx (interesting, not sure what it means but it sure is asking to be getting attention).

The symmetry axis would be about:
his Uranus/My Saturn: 18°34 Virgo
his Sun/ my Moon: 18°11 Pisces (that is quite close in orb, isnīt it?)


Hence I also noticed the objects occupying this symmetry axis

my CAMELOT 19°54 Virgo
(his Moon)
his NN: 17°17 Virgo


my JUNO 16°58 Pisces
his CERES 18°27 Pisces


mmh, what do you think of this?

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posted March 25, 2015 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nothing to add and reading the thread with interest but all I can say is that the 2nd chart looks pretty.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 25, 2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing I noticed was the angles lol but then reread the OP. Isn't his Sun Saturn a sesquis, making your sesquis with Mars part of a Thor's Hammer?

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Ceridwen
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posted March 25, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it seems the orbs are too wide for a sesqui.

It would be 3°35


However I do have my own Hammer of Thor involving Chiron square Vertex and ERos and both sesisquare Mars. And since his Sun falls onto my Chiron he seems to activate that as well.

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posted March 25, 2015 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second chart, the House is totally cool. However, what impresses me in this synastry first and foremost is the possibility to have a multiple DW: Sun - Sun, Moon- Moon and Sun-Moon.

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posted March 27, 2015 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The second chart, the House is totally cool. However, what impresses me in this synastry first and foremost is the possibility to have a multiple DW: Sun - Sun, Moon- Moon and Sun-Moon.

It doesn`t seem so though.

I used the time of 6 p.m. this time (for the LIbra ASC to happen, which of course can be TOTALLY off).


his Sun trine my Sun 6°41
his Sun sextile my Moon 2°08

his Moon square my Sun 8°57
his MOon quinkunx my Moon 0°08

well the Sun-Moon-sextile most definitely is in play. The Sun trine Sun is wider than what I like to see, but I wouldn`t rule it out totally.

If he was indeed born in the last third of the day, his Moon might be square my Sun.
With a birth at 11 p.m. the orb would be under 7 degrees.

Even the Venus (mine) Mars (his) square would then come closer, at birthtime of 11 p.m. 3°54, at birthtime of 6 p.m. at 4°03

Of course that means that at that time even the Mars-Mars-trine would be closer in orb (3°06) and closer to my IC (2^58)

I am not sure if I should include it, because of the really large orb, but his Venus squares my Mars by 8°39.
It is at least interesting if seen together with the other Venus-Mars-square, though in this instance it would have been more close in orb earlier that day.


While all of that is all speculation of course, and the orbs are wide, it certainly is interesting that the lumninaries and the relationship planets have some kind of sign relation to each other.
You could even consider sAturn among these.

Well Dawn Bodrogi said on her blog she considers Venus, Mars, Moon and SAturn to be the primary relationship planets (because of their association with cardinal cross) plus Sun of course. (though she also states that of course the other planets can be very important for relationships as well). Nevertheless I would agree with her in that we undervalue Saturn in that regard. Might not be easy going, but relationships rarely are about easy-going, something needs to make you grow roots and provide anchoring.

Nevertheless I was or am really surprised at how many Saturn-aspects to the other relationship planets plus my ASC and nodal axis and chartruler are to be found here!

his Saturn trine my Venus 1°43
his Saturn square my Mars 2°40
his Saturn opposite my chartruler 3°23
his Saturn square my NN 2°20
his Saturn square my ASC 0°46

my Saturn square his Sun 2°18
(my Saturn sextile his Moon 0°01)
his Saturn trine my Venus 3°08
my Saturn sextile his NN 0°19


Naturally the Saturn-Venus-DW would come up in the composite again, if int he same phase it would become a trine.
If one waxing, one waning, either a conjunction or opposition.

Well in that case it is

Venus on 9°59 Aquarius
(and Mercury on 10°32 Aquarius)

opposite

Saturn on 12°32 Leo

And I can`t really overlook the fact that ther is a T-square to

Uranus on 10°46 Scorpio


LOL

Always the Saturn-Uranus-tension. Can`t escape it in my composites.

If we are using generous orbs we could also count the wide Venus-Mars-conjunction with an orb of 6°22

(well I am inclined to count the Moon-Venus-conjunction at 6 degrees in the composite iwth Mr Sag, so I guess I would need to consider that as well. lol)


Of course that means that the wide Venus-Mars-squares in the synastry are in a complementary phase, as this is the only possibility they could become a conjnction (albeit wide) in composite).

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Ceridwen
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posted March 27, 2015 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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